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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 01 11:36:48
it hasn't been noted yet how cool Rick's scene was at the beginning

Keegan-Michael Key put it as Rick now having a one strike and you're out policy (just like i support even without a zombie world :p)
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 01 13:41:32
Yeah he wasn't messing around!
"Stop. Please stop. Dude! Stop.
Fine!" :p
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 01 13:51:13
Talking Dead for Coda here:
http://awesomedl.ru/talking-dead-season-4-episode-8-coda/
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 01 14:46:24
awww :'(
(@Emily Kinney's reactions)

so cool that the cast has bonded this much. That really shows in the scenes. Their reactions when it first happened, and then when they walked out and showed Maggie's expression change :'( ..
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 01 15:49:10
yeah, was sad

i wonder if she was needling Kirkman a bit w/ the personal life issues... how she moved to be on the show then had to move out after learning in ep #7 she'd be killed in #8

gotta be a little awkward knowing he killed off your character by choice
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 01 16:25:02
Yeah! Can't tell if she was doing it for his benefit, but after that trauma Kirkman may never kill again, or he'll only kill villains and temporary red-shirts ;)
The Children
Member
Mon Dec 01 17:16:32
so why then did she think she culd get away with that shit.

seemed a bit weird. no sane person in real life wuld stab someone when they have let her go.

seems like they needed someone 2 die and they decided it was her time.

also weird how rick is now becomin more and more ruthless.

Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 01 17:45:29
Rick kind of doesn't have a conscience unless Daryl happens to be there :D
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 01 17:49:53
i can see the Beth thing happening... i'm not sure they established the mental state necessary completely, but in theory i can see it anyway

i assume she was aiming for the neck and missed... maybe the writers didn't want her to go out as a murderer

and as i mentioned in UP, the scene may have been a nod to Django... a very similar situation occurs
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 01 17:51:55
guess I finally have an excuse to watch Django then :)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 01 18:48:51
there's probably lots of similar examples, but i just happened to have seen that recently :p
McKobb
Member
Mon Dec 01 19:14:02
All I gotta say is...I'm glad it wasn't Carol! Beth was getting harder but she still was a paper tiger. I'm surprised Noah didn't stick.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Mon Dec 01 19:21:55
http://io9...-was-tragic-for-two-1665128603
McKobb
Member
Mon Dec 01 19:26:03
Necrocist!
McKobb
Member
Mon Dec 01 19:35:36
Rick gave the dude a chance, you don't get that much post zombie rising.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Dec 14 19:10:26
It's not worth facing Sundays without Walking Dead :(
/wrists
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Dec 24 06:40:24
Decided to watch the ending of the last episode again, but I let the credits run this time. Totally had missed Morgan Jones' update (it was after the credits). It looks like he'd maybe follow the trail to D.C. instead of going to ATL..?
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Feb 08 17:21:04
So glad I didn't kill myself after the mid-season finale. After tonight I'll have a reason to live for a few more weeks! :D :D :D
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 08 18:54:37
i wonder how long until medically induced comas are available to consumers for such purposes

i'm actually more looking forward to Better Call Saul... the first episode better be as good as the entire BB series collectively to meet my expectations
McKobb
Member
Sun Feb 08 19:07:17
BCS starts off with a small time lawyer using his real name. Should be good.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Feb 08 19:13:33
Yeah it better be the best thing EVAR!
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Feb 09 13:05:03
Mid-Season Premiere ( Spoilers!! )

That was an especially existential episode..
Was hoping that he would live forever :'(
McKobb
Member
Mon Feb 09 14:26:12
Turn it off@!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 09 22:42:56
why was there a pack of walkers at the gate on exit?

i'm beginning to think this show is faked
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Feb 09 23:04:06
Oh yeah.. I guess they were followed, but they were being quiet. It might be scripted like that Cardassian show?
McKobb
Member
Sun Feb 15 21:15:10
Take me to your leader!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 15 21:27:22
it's a guy from Total Recall to help Maggie out of her dream
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Feb 17 17:26:26
Very creepy guy, too: "Oh hai, I've been following you guise and know your leader's name. Trust my khakis and nice, clean clothes! Promise it's not cannibals this time. ---IT'S WORSE--- >:D" :p

Rewatched the premiere, btw. Really well directed. Like how they showed Tyreese's memories intruding into his present (even in the beginning, they were mixing flashbacks with future moments). And he kept trying to employ a deterministic fallacy like Gottfried Leibniz (for Leibniz: "best of all possible worlds" / for Tyreese: "it happened the way it was gonna happen") which is mostly just a confusing of retrospective knowledge with an impossible to predict future. Add to that his staring at the images of the twins, trying to reconcile that past and present but seeing only a disconnect. Lots moar to think about, but for me that may have been one of the best episodes of the series
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Feb 24 13:38:57
so is Rick going crazy?

http://i2....walking-dead-vaccinnations.png
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Feb 25 13:22:56
Finally watched Sunday's episode ("The Distance")..

k! Guess the show is over! Good job, guise! They made it to civilization! :D It was a good show. I didn't like Season 1 or the beginning of Season 2, but it always had zombies and existentialism, so it worked for me.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 25 14:03:22
luckily Carl brings death and destruction wherever he goes so they will destroy this community
McKobb
Member
Wed Feb 25 14:07:16
Maybe rick will walk in and go on a spree.
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Feb 25 17:48:49
Probably some of the group will fail their "audition," so they'll be on the streets again. Might at least get to hear some news from a wider zombie world :)
Damian DB
Moderator
Wed Feb 25 18:46:43
as a ready of the comics.. I really like where they are right now in the show :D
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Mar 03 00:35:51
Why no one comment anymoar? :(
I'm not watching until later tonight, so at least I have an excuse ;p
McKobb
Member
Tue Mar 03 05:32:53
China invites the mongols for tea and rick gets a haircut and shave.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 03 10:11:55
there's a hot new blonde babe... which doesn't bode well for her safety
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Mar 03 15:49:25
Cool ending! They've become the villains :D
Or Rick anyways. Or he's ready to be one. And good lols from the ROTC person being hit. Humility for his role-playing game ;p

Kind of guessing that there must be some kind of tunnel system happening, since Corrral's friend disappeared in the woods and that zombie grabbed Rick's leg from under stuff, but wasn't there before. And the missing gun, the audio parabola from the last episode, and the camera documentation make it seem like there could be heavy surveillance happening. Good mystery ahead :)
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Mar 03 15:49:51
"which doesn't bode well for her safety"

Yeah she might die. And a jealous husband too? Not good.
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 04 13:48:56
..having second thoughts about the tunnel possibility. That zombie that grabbed Rick from under the debris looked like it might have just not heard him the first time that Rick came around..
Am kind of wondering if Enid (teen) knew Carl from some other disaster (like maybe Carl killed her dad at the prison or something fun like that).. if not, probably just that she recognizes a fellow wanderer and knows to be suspicious, in which case they're positioning the weak people against the strong ones, where she'd be in the strong mix and capable of joining Rick's group..

Rawr rawr. Probably not worth speculating? ;)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 04 20:38:16
yeah Rick definitely will be killing sulking porch guy if not conquering the whole town
McKobb
Member
Sun Mar 08 21:54:05
Heart cookies or death carol!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 09 00:40:16
"that guy is walking with girl i like, ok to kill?" ~Rick's mind
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Mar 10 18:33:40
He's definitely doing deadly stuff. Like, even just strategically it's probably not a good idea to make enemies with the doctor like that :p

Yeah cookies or death was so nice! These characters have become really great people people :D
"I could murder you horribly.. or.. cookies? I prefer cookies (✿◠‿◠)"
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 11 18:50:39
Some revisions/thoughts:
- Probably just Enid who took Rick's gun. She seems sneaky and was definitely outside the gate when they entered the first day (she was the one in the house that Carl spotted), so it makes sense that she'd have it
- Carol really shouldn't have taken that chocolate bar if she wanted to get away with taking the guns... That was clearly an inventoried/quantified item that would be noticed.

So looks like a "you cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war" situation. The Alexandria peeps seem nice, but because Rick made the decision to have a contingency plan (the extra guns), they'll make themselves the enemies. Yay!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 23:57:06
was Rick missing a gun when he reached back while watching his next wife walk away w/ her current husband? i may have missed something :p
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Mar 12 18:47:22
Pic of that:
http://i.imgur.com/vTYOSIu.jpg
Looked like he was touching his secret extra gun and fantasizing about going on a power trip.. like any modern policeman ;)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 11:57:10
i kinda wonder if the group will divide... would all support Rick's maniacal schemes?
McKobb
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:04:32
It's actually loaded or appears to be. Prop or blanks?
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Mar 13 15:45:41
have to hope that the producers watch that pretty carefully.. and that no one on set is 27 ;)

..
"would all support Rick's maniacal schemes?"

I kind of think that Rick will do something crazy and people will feel terrible (especially Daryl), but they'll stick around because they owe him so much.. should make for crazy drama
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Mar 16 00:15:21
Norman coping with fandom:
http://i.imgur.com/KigSI5a.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 16 00:21:10
some Kanye concert air is selling on eBay


tonights episode pretty gruesome
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Mar 16 17:49:13
Awesome! Can't watch until tonight, though
The Children
Member
Tue Mar 17 08:40:46
hm finally caught up. dunt really know what 2 say. cant really judge the new characters. seems kinda 4 real and if so, then the group turned evil.

maybe that is how he meets his end. when he turns into shane 2.0

Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 18 14:38:16
@Spend episode

(( spoiler warning ))

Wow! Amazing episode! Watched it twice in a row :D .. Some really big moments.. Poor Noah, though :( .. dolphinately gruesome.

Wondering if Sam Anderson (little boy) was saying that he needs the gun so he can kill his dad himself, or if he'd give it to his mom and let her make the choice.. not super important, though

Very cool how the show has been managing narratives. The Alexandria people have been trying to reconstruct a story of Rick's group from fragments, but now they have to interpret real circumstances. So the priest gets to give his misinterpretation of Rick's killing of the cannibals, but if Maggie doesn't try to give her version (which she seems to feel bad about, so maybe she'll let the priest's narrative stand), then Deanna Monroe might interpret the death of her son as calculated — especially because Spencer's lieutenant will probably lie about how things happened.

But Carol and Rick's becoming evil! Oh yes! :D
Seems like a terrible idea to kill the doctor, but killing dysfunctional people has become the norm, so Rick will probably find a way..

.. love this show :D
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 18 15:26:21
did they establish that the father was doing the abusing*? seems a little convenient

maybe it's the mother abusing the kid... twist!

*i need to stop doing 2 things at once when watching
McKobb
Member
Wed Mar 18 15:29:41
She's not that hot
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 18 15:39:05
"did they establish that the father was doing the abusing*? seems a little convenient"

Based on body language it looks that way. Like last episode's kind of poorly-directed dinner party scene where he insists on getting Rick's drink after Jessie offered to do so. Also have to trust Carol's knowledge of victimization. A twist would be fun though :D
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 23 09:39:59
latest episode

"Tempers are wearing thin. Let's just hope some robot doesn't kill everybody."

http://sta...Carl-Full-Shane-1427076171.jpg
McKobb
Member
Mon Mar 23 11:02:34
When ypu full Shane, car takes aim
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 25 05:57:35
*watching meow*

- lol@ them mourning by listening to NIИ? :D
- Nice that Sasha is still around; I thought that when she left the gate after the dinner party that she was leaving for good; didn't realize that the watch tower was outside the gate (oops)
- was wrong about who took Rick's gun :(
- ..guessing they've connected the "wolves are coming" person that did all that crazy stuff to Noah's town with the "W" carvings on their local zombies (W=wolves?)...

Wow@ending D:
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 25 06:01:19
And season finale next week! Lots of intense stuff to sort through. I hope that the more sadistic of the group will inherit the town ;p
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 25 06:02:12
..and that they can replace those windows before society collapses again ;)
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Mar 25 06:27:03
Someone did a nice caption for that ending :)
http://i.imgur.com/Utekbmx.jpg
The Children
Member
Wed Mar 25 18:10:29
so long noah, we hardly get 2 know ya.

ricks gone bonckers and Oo michonne

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 30 09:31:41
-finale talk-

Daryl continues to be awesome... chain attack!
I expected more devastation though

on Talking Dead... Morgan is another Brit! and he said his character honked the horn to make sure no walkers around (rather than to attract them)
McKobb
Member
Mon Mar 30 10:31:10
Morgan done gone little john on us!
State Department
Member
Mon Mar 30 21:55:10
Rick.... do it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 31 00:43:34
"Fear the Walking Dead" promo (spin-off show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unWdvWPmiPk
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Mar 31 13:40:10
@finale

Wow!! D: D: :D :D :o :o

The wolves showing up, Morgan being all super-hero-ish, priest being a screw-up ;p ... was totes nervous for Glenn and Rick, but everyone in the group really showed how awesome sauce they've become: Sasha and Glenn not killing despite having reason, Rick showing restraint, Carol being strategic/devious, Michonne being on Rick's side and deciding to return the sword to her back, Eugene and Abraham making up (♥s ;p )... so much stuff! Much finale! Very impress!

Also..
- I had been thinking that the wolves were 2 of the 3 banished townspeeps.. but the fact that the writers felt the need to have them find Aaron's photos of the town makes it seem like they wouldn't have previously known that it exists. If they did, then it's simply a reminder to them and foreshadowing for the audience.. but I don't think they did..
- Was the doctor staying in Michonne's house or something? If not, it would be pretty contrived for him to show up with the sword (that would require too much specific knowledge of other homes)..

..
Don't think I'll mind the spin-off since it'll meet the demand while Walking Dead films its next season :)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Apr 06 09:09:07
i don't know about how he got the sword, but like this viewer comment:

"What might of happened to carl and judith? Pete got michonnes sword which was hanging in ricks house where they showed carl and judith."

the kids being dead would be nice... especially Carl :p
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Apr 06 14:53:50
ohmahgerdz D:
.. that might have really happened. When the Doctor gets there, there -is- blood on the sword even before he kills Reg:
http://i.imgur.com/wcbsoRB.png
I kind of dismissed it for a continuity error (like that they had staged the blood to be there for -after- he slashed Reg). So if it's not continuity and if everyone was accounted for at the gathering, not sure who else's blood it could have been except Carl or Judith... maybe the doctor's own children? I'd suspect that the most, just because Carl&Judith were supposed to represent the future
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 23 22:35:18
Oct 11 for Walking Dead premiere


Fear the Walking Dead started tonight

i get a strong Johnny Depp vibe from the son character... probably intentional
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Oct 13 12:30:09
[Season 6 Premiere]

- Carol is so cool :D (thinking of that scene where she pretends that Morgan didn't just see through her charade)
- @ending: D:

Very cool start to the season! Am worried for Rick, with the son of the doctor being a bit upset that his dad isn't around to beat him anymore (a weird nostalgia, but it happens.. or he just wanted to do it himself).. and am liking that Glenn is making besties with Nicholas. That would be a great friendship, aktly :)

Too bad that Rick had to kill Carter (that was Ethan Embry, btw; from "Can't Hardly Wait"), because Morgan seemed to consider it like Rick's self-fulfilling prophecy.. like Rick maybe doesn't think that people can change and will subconsciously push them to fail. Still, not sure if Rick could have done much? The best I could think is maybe knock Carter out or have him bite a stick and then cut off his whole cheek. Otherwise it would just be a prevention thing (like Rick should have been with him, helping him with that walker), but Carter really wanted to be helpful and run ahead, so can't fault Rick for that... Rick even tried to get Carter and others to learn to fight (even if messily), so Morgan can't totally blame Rick for this outcome..

And the ending... guessing that peeps expect the Wolves to be at work, but I'd be more suspicious of insiders, like someone wanted Rick's plan to fail. To be seen, though!
McKobb
Member
Tue Oct 13 12:57:54
Love me some Carol
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 15 09:25:23
could be Morgan making the noise :o ... but probably the Wolves

i don't recall Carl being in the episode, so still hope that he was chopped up at the end of last season and just no one cared to talk about it
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 15 09:40:49
i don't think one of the original villagers would sabotage themselves just to sabotage Rick, except maybe the boy who lost his father... since kids are awful
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Oct 15 12:48:49
Yeah they are! :D
I could see it being him or else maybe Carter told someone to do it in case he died. The teen makes more sense, though, just because he wouldn't realize that it was suicidal and stupid ;)

..
"i don't recall Carl being in the episode"

They showed him sitting on a gazebo roof with Enid in one of the black&white scenes while the son of dead doctor spies them from a distance. Guess he's okay ;p
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 15 18:49:35
damn... well maybe Carl is the noise maker cause he's sick of all the dad jokes

http://s-m...f1f033955a7d447dbc646f7987.jpg

...apparently many think Rick pronounces it "Coral"
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Oct 15 19:11:28
I've even started saying it like that XD
And from above: "since Corrral's friend disappeared in the woods" :D

I mean, it probably -will- end up being the Wolves — it fits their herding style — but it seems like Rick hasn't made friends in Alexandria, and sabotaging his plan could be a way to make people hate him.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 20:40:44
new episode!

smoking kills
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 21:07:36
Kevin Smith says it's one of the top 4 Walking Dead episodes, and top 20 episodes of all TV

...not to build it up too much or anything if you haven't seen yet
McKobb
Member
Sun Oct 18 21:26:14
JSS
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Oct 18 21:48:48
Definitely one of the best episodes they've ever done.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Oct 18 21:56:43
arg! I was hoping to keep waiting until iTunes released the episodes, but sounds like I can't wait til Monday morning this time..
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Oct 19 16:17:58
Personally think that Kevin Smith is a useless hack who's about 10+ years removed from having a relevant opinion, so not sure if anything he has to say matters at all (I'm sure he'd respond well to -any- kind of senseless action).. But!

Very tense episode! Was basically like "D:" the entire time :D
Carol got to show how kewl she is again! Looks like she lost all her new friends, though (except the stock room person, Olivia, who knows her secret meow.. and hopefully Olivia won't shoot the next person who opens that door)... Carol seems to have secretly liked living in that homemaker world.. re-becoming the monster can hurt :'(

Was the wolves after all — oops! I wanted to believe it would be misdirection :p .. neat that there were more than just the originally-shown two. I wonder how their recruitment process works ;D

And I had to re-check the end of the first episode.. looks like Morgan snuck away after Rick killed Carter; he's not in the last two "present time" scenes with Rick and Michonne (even before the horn), which could explain his getting back to Alexandria in time to help. If not (which could be the case, since they intentionally used closer shots to hide whether or not Morgan was still there), Rick may have asked him to run back and stop the horn while everyone in the away group tried to re-herd.
Am happy that it'll be two episodes in a row of this issue; will get to see panic herding or a panic Alexandria defense :D
(btw, having Deanna Monroe get in the truck versus the tower.. probably not a good decision, though it was interesting that she had such a big reaction to a dead body.. they really were isolated from it all)

..
@"smoking kills"

I was srsly like, "wtf??" at that moment :D .. Was even trying to decide if it was really happening or was Carol's daydreaming. That scene really worked, with everything being super clean and then a crazy "W" hobo running into frame :)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 19 16:28:40
it was like the 'Too Many Cooks' guy :p
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Oct 19 16:56:22
:D :D
...might have to photoshop that :D
McKobb
Member
Mon Oct 19 19:40:32
Say who?
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Oct 19 20:14:47
And you've got: Too Many Cooks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Oct 25 20:49:53
So apparently in the zombie apocalypse, humans lose the ability to climb chain link fences. Good to know.
McKobb
Member
Sun Oct 25 21:21:45
Dayum
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Oct 25 21:44:21
It was just shitty writing...that's what annoys me.
McKobb
Member
Sun Oct 25 21:46:55
Scorpion and the frog, Bro.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 26 08:39:14
Michonne did seem to be milking the suspense
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 26 14:04:14
Talking Dead episodes here for this season
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC77fce_lgbXHEOjMRSzeUfg

for last night's episode, they are holding up some hope... definitely more attached to people than i am :p
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Oct 26 14:15:16
If he's not dead, it's even shittier writing. The only way it would "work" is if when Nick starting zoning, he sorta had a "what if" scenario run through his head and that's what we saw. But that would be pretty lame. I'm sure we're just going to have to chalk it up to, "Oh right, they can't climb fences. What, you could have gotten over that without any issue? Well, that's you. The one guy is a just a hardened survivor of 2 years...oh wait... Derp."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 26 14:23:43
well it had razor wire on top & there were walkers on the other side

it did look weird like they were pulling intestines out of his upper chest so conceivably its the guy lying on top, but i don't see where he could go... i assume dead
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Oct 26 15:08:24
One crappy looping of it...not enough to stop someone from climbing over. I've certainly been over similar fences.

The walkers would only stop you from jumping over. Straddling the fence is better than being eaten by walkers. And the side fence had no barbed (I don't recall it being razor, but I may not remember correctly) wire on top...just nearby vegetation.

It comes down to what is a survivor going to do...stand there and look around stupidly, or get up one of those fences? The answer is easy, unless you're a writer for The Walking Dead, apparently.
McKobb
Member
Mon Oct 26 21:32:18
The only option, from what was shown, would be Rick's spray and pray in the RV drawing them before they get to him, assuming do-fuck was on top.
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