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Mehul Patel
rank Wed Aug 20 08:59:42 2008
check out this thread

http://boa...id=talk&thread=39&spec=6808078

Rugian
rank Wed Aug 20 10:36:30 2008
Wow.

Master trolling there, lol.

Master Bates
rank Wed Aug 20 13:39:54 2008
Wow.

murder
rank Wed Aug 20 13:41:50 2008

The feds don't involve themselves in such things. I'm pretty sure that Mehul scripted the forum software from scratch ... so unless he sues, it's all BS.

Hot Rod
rank Wed Aug 20 13:47:18 2008

I think his rules are wishful thinking, but as far as copyright infringment there may be a case.

I would imagine that OMAC now owns all of Swirve's copyrights and they could force the server to shut down this forum without notice.

Master Bates
rank Wed Aug 20 13:54:02 2008
Theres nothing to be copyrighted about this. Whats to be copyrighted?
The colors 000033; and #2B384?

Hot Rod
rank Wed Aug 20 14:12:46 2008

Have you seen the banner lately?

Master Bates
rank Wed Aug 20 14:15:09 2008
So they make a complaint, we change the banner. They won't get anywhere with a lawsuit for something this silly if TC hasn't even recieved a complaint from Omac first. At least, not in Europe. That said, the logo still needs some work.

Hot Rod
rank Wed Aug 20 14:25:17 2008

I'm not saying anything about what they did or did not do.

I am saying OMAC now owns Swirve and all that Swirve is and they do not like us very much. There is no law that says they have to notify TC.

If they want to be nasty all they have to do is have their lawyers contact our server and tell them to shut us down.

They *CAN* do that if they wish.

roland
rank Wed Aug 20 14:31:55 2008
We are not using their code, they can't shut us down.

Master Bates
rank Wed Aug 20 14:32:17 2008
I seriously doubt that. And what countries laws are they following anyway? Not US. Its all EU now. I'm pretty sure that a judge over here would say this is too silly, its a small non profit chat site, tell them to change the logo. If they still don't, get back to me. Since there is no litigation issues in Europe, the legal system actually tries to recommend and help small claims parties to resolve things before it gets to court.

Master Bates
rank Wed Aug 20 14:33:17 2008
And theres no way they can turn the server off.

Hot Rod
rank Wed Aug 20 14:52:51 2008

The server where this forum resides can delete us if they choose to.

Get the Terms of Use from TC and read them.

Ubes JAC
rank Wed Aug 20 14:52:55 2008
allonons is a fucking idiot who got snubbed in our HHUGT forum. His threats are emptier than an Iraqi rain barrel.

roland
rank Wed Aug 20 14:57:42 2008
"Get the Terms of Use from TC and read them. "

You asserted "The server where this forum resides can delete us if they choose to."

So you must have read the term of use, why don't you just show that to us?

Hot Rod
rank Wed Aug 20 15:07:33 2008

No need to read them.

I know that the reason they have a 'Terms of Use' is to cover their ass.

roland
rank Wed Aug 20 15:12:11 2008
"I know that the reason they have a 'Terms of Use' is to cover their ass."

In other words, you don't know what ground they can shut us down. And you don't know shxt.

Thanks for playing.

Ubes JAC
rank Wed Aug 20 15:19:22 2008
*shit

talon121
rank Wed Aug 20 16:31:08 2008
ubes how do you know allons is newbie?

Milton Bradley
rank Wed Aug 20 17:24:18 2008
"I'm not saying anything about what they did or did not do.

I am saying OMAC now owns Swirve and all that Swirve is and they do not like us very much. There is no law that says they have to notify TC.

If they want to be nasty all they have to do is have their lawyers contact our server and tell them to shut us down.

They *CAN* do that if they wish. "

Fuck... Hot Rod, they can do whatever they want but:

A) Lawyers are expensive and their time is extremely valuable. No one anywhere would spend $1000 to have their lawyers get a court order to shut down this site. Dont be ridiculous.

B) Forum colors and styles are not subject to copyright. Furthermore, just using the name "Swirve" or the picture is not going to get you into trouble. There has to be some kind of damage claim being made in order for a lawsuit to go anywhere. I can say Kelloggs, Pepsi, Visa, or Yahoo.com whenever and wherever I want without worrying about those companies coming after me. Its generally only if I try to use their logo on a similar product, etc...

C) It is obviously a troll. Otherwise it would be a moderator posting the message and the message would be sticky and/or locked. Stop BEING A GOD DAMN MORON.

Thank you.

pillz
rank Wed Aug 20 18:31:42 2008
Bluffing.

The coding is different, Mehul coded the other site from scratch.

The Banner was never actually copywritten by Swirve, either.
The best they can do is request we change it.

Milton Bradley
rank Wed Aug 20 19:07:20 2008
Epic self-ownage by pillz.

pillz
rank Wed Aug 20 21:20:57 2008
How so?

Dakyron
rank Wed Aug 20 21:27:19 2008
Milton is saying you are a dumbshit for even considering the threat. It was an obvious troll attempt. By falling for the troll attempt, you have proven yourself stupid in the eyes of Milton Bradley.

pillz
rank Thu Aug 21 03:56:33 2008
Right, I totally fell for it by giving you a handful of lines of text saying in simple terms WHY it's bullshit.

GG Dak

Seb
rank Thu Aug 21 04:10:13 2008
Milton:

They would if we actually do damage their brand significantly, which is what a great deal of posts here have been discussing.

Go type utopia politics (without quotes) into google.

We made that happen.

Now imagine this site was properly open to goolge web crawlers, and you typed "OMAC" or "Jolt".

Now imagine you are going to advertise on OMAC and jolt, and you google search them.

There are other lines open to them than copyright infringement.

crownroyal
rank Thu Aug 21 04:24:48 2008
How do you find this site using Google?

Seb
rank Thu Aug 21 04:26:43 2008
ATM, you can't, which is good. Otherwise they would probably already have gone mental.

Real Fred
rank Thu Aug 21 04:27:07 2008
You don't.

crownroyal
rank Thu Aug 21 04:35:50 2008
Damn, I cannot open the site from my cell phone. Keeps asking me what folder to download. Like its an image or something.

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Mehul Patel rank	Wed Aug 20 08:59:42 2008 check out this thread http://boa...id=talk&thread=39&spec=6808078
Rugian rank	Wed Aug 20 10:36:30 2008 Wow. Master trolling there, lol.
Master Bates rank	Wed Aug 20 13:39:54 2008 Wow.
murder rank	Wed Aug 20 13:41:50 2008 The feds don't involve themselves in such things. I'm pretty sure that Mehul scripted the forum software from scratch ... so unless he sues, it's all BS.
Hot Rod rank	Wed Aug 20 13:47:18 2008 I think his rules are wishful thinking, but as far as copyright infringment there may be a case. I would imagine that OMAC now owns all of Swirve's copyrights and they could force the server to shut down this forum without notice.
Master Bates rank	Wed Aug 20 13:54:02 2008 Theres nothing to be copyrighted about this. Whats to be copyrighted? The colors 000033; and #2B384?
Hot Rod rank	Wed Aug 20 14:12:46 2008 Have you seen the banner lately?
Master Bates rank	Wed Aug 20 14:15:09 2008 So they make a complaint, we change the banner. They won't get anywhere with a lawsuit for something this silly if TC hasn't even recieved a complaint from Omac first. At least, not in Europe. That said, the logo still needs some work.
Hot Rod rank	Wed Aug 20 14:25:17 2008 I'm not saying anything about what they did or did not do. I am saying OMAC now owns Swirve and all that Swirve is and they do not like us very much. There is no law that says they have to notify TC. If they want to be nasty all they have to do is have their lawyers contact our server and tell them to shut us down. They CAN do that if they wish.
roland rank	Wed Aug 20 14:31:55 2008 We are not using their code, they can't shut us down.
Master Bates rank	Wed Aug 20 14:32:17 2008 I seriously doubt that. And what countries laws are they following anyway? Not US. Its all EU now. I'm pretty sure that a judge over here would say this is too silly, its a small non profit chat site, tell them to change the logo. If they still don't, get back to me. Since there is no litigation issues in Europe, the legal system actually tries to recommend and help small claims parties to resolve things before it gets to court.
Master Bates rank	Wed Aug 20 14:33:17 2008 And theres no way they can turn the server off.
Hot Rod rank	Wed Aug 20 14:52:51 2008 The server where this forum resides can delete us if they choose to. Get the Terms of Use from TC and read them.
Ubes JAC rank	Wed Aug 20 14:52:55 2008 allonons is a fucking idiot who got snubbed in our HHUGT forum. His threats are emptier than an Iraqi rain barrel.
roland rank	Wed Aug 20 14:57:42 2008 "Get the Terms of Use from TC and read them. " You asserted "The server where this forum resides can delete us if they choose to." So you must have read the term of use, why don't you just show that to us?
Hot Rod rank	Wed Aug 20 15:07:33 2008 No need to read them. I know that the reason they have a 'Terms of Use' is to cover their ass.
roland rank	Wed Aug 20 15:12:11 2008 "I know that the reason they have a 'Terms of Use' is to cover their ass." In other words, you don't know what ground they can shut us down. And you don't know shxt. Thanks for playing.
Ubes JAC rank	Wed Aug 20 15:19:22 2008 *shit
talon121 rank	Wed Aug 20 16:31:08 2008 ubes how do you know allons is newbie?
Milton Bradley rank	Wed Aug 20 17:24:18 2008 "I'm not saying anything about what they did or did not do. I am saying OMAC now owns Swirve and all that Swirve is and they do not like us very much. There is no law that says they have to notify TC. If they want to be nasty all they have to do is have their lawyers contact our server and tell them to shut us down. They CAN do that if they wish. " Fuck... Hot Rod, they can do whatever they want but: A) Lawyers are expensive and their time is extremely valuable. No one anywhere would spend $1000 to have their lawyers get a court order to shut down this site. Dont be ridiculous. B) Forum colors and styles are not subject to copyright. Furthermore, just using the name "Swirve" or the picture is not going to get you into trouble. There has to be some kind of damage claim being made in order for a lawsuit to go anywhere. I can say Kelloggs, Pepsi, Visa, or Yahoo.com whenever and wherever I want without worrying about those companies coming after me. Its generally only if I try to use their logo on a similar product, etc... C) It is obviously a troll. Otherwise it would be a moderator posting the message and the message would be sticky and/or locked. Stop BEING A GOD DAMN MORON. Thank you.
pillz rank	Wed Aug 20 18:31:42 2008 Bluffing. The coding is different, Mehul coded the other site from scratch. The Banner was never actually copywritten by Swirve, either. The best they can do is request we change it.
Milton Bradley rank	Wed Aug 20 19:07:20 2008 Epic self-ownage by pillz.
pillz rank	Wed Aug 20 21:20:57 2008 How so?
Dakyron rank	Wed Aug 20 21:27:19 2008 Milton is saying you are a dumbshit for even considering the threat. It was an obvious troll attempt. By falling for the troll attempt, you have proven yourself stupid in the eyes of Milton Bradley.
pillz rank	Thu Aug 21 03:56:33 2008 Right, I totally fell for it by giving you a handful of lines of text saying in simple terms WHY it's bullshit. GG Dak
Seb rank	Thu Aug 21 04:10:13 2008 Milton: They would if we actually do damage their brand significantly, which is what a great deal of posts here have been discussing. Go type utopia politics (without quotes) into google. We made that happen. Now imagine this site was properly open to goolge web crawlers, and you typed "OMAC" or "Jolt". Now imagine you are going to advertise on OMAC and jolt, and you google search them. There are other lines open to them than copyright infringement.
crownroyal rank	Thu Aug 21 04:24:48 2008 How do you find this site using Google?
Seb rank	Thu Aug 21 04:26:43 2008 ATM, you can't, which is good. Otherwise they would probably already have gone mental.
Real Fred rank	Thu Aug 21 04:27:07 2008 You don't.
crownroyal rank	Thu Aug 21 04:35:50 2008 Damn, I cannot open the site from my cell phone. Keeps asking me what folder to download. Like its an image or something.
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