Utopia Talk / Politics / River of blood

Sam Adams Member	Sun Feb 06 13:28:18 please explain to me how smallpox was eradicated
miltonfriedman Member	Sun Feb 06 13:31:22 water
Camaban The Overseer	Sun Feb 06 15:41:36 I'm also still waiting for a response to this. Why is it that when vaccination rates go down, incidents of diseases that the vaccinations are targetted against go up? IE: Measles after the disgraced former Dr. Wakefield spread his potential lawsuit-and-sales-of-"safe"-alternative-funded misinformation. And why is it mainly the diseases that have been vaccinated against that have dropped this much? Surely if it's just hygiene advancements, it would have affected them fairly uniformly. For instance, chickenpox isn't vaccinated against like MMR are, and is still a fairly common part of childhood. On the flipside, smallpox has also been eradicated from places where the hygiene levels are crappy at best (India is not a clean country, for example) http://www...hread=42269&time=1296601856831
Madc0w Member	Sun Feb 06 22:11:52 Yes, I would like to see RoB answer this question.
MrPresident07 Member	Sun Feb 06 22:31:20 He'll be back by Saturday.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Feb 07 00:57:23 You need water to help you recuperate, therefore, water cures.
ehcks Member	Mon Feb 07 10:30:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZO9J7dDLU4 Just cause I thought this was funny.
Aeros Member	Mon Feb 07 10:40:14 Its hilarious how the UK spends 4 million every year giving people water.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Feb 07 13:06:27 ttt river i know you are around
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Mon Feb 07 13:12:50 "plenty of water" rob would love it, ehcks.
river of bl00d Member	Mon Feb 07 13:25:59 http://www.watercure2.org/
Aeros Member	Mon Feb 07 13:35:59 lol, that site is awesome.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Feb 07 16:13:18 river why are you not answering this?
river of bl00d Member	Mon Feb 07 16:28:23 water cures cowardness.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Feb 07 23:57:45 top
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 08 13:28:57 where are you river?
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 08 13:32:24 I don't know, Sam. It may very well have been from the smallpox vaccine. Your point?
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 08 13:36:35 You claimed vaccines were worthless, but it seems here that just this one vaccine got rid of one of the worst diseases in human history, saving 100s of millions of lives.
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 08 13:53:28 No.
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Feb 08 15:53:46 No what?
river of bl00d Member	Tue Feb 08 15:57:56 water cures denial.
ehcks Member	Tue Feb 08 16:36:54 Does water cure backpedaling? I think water cures backpedaling.
so what Member	Tue Feb 08 16:45:37 They made a misstake, they should have made a medicin that combats the symptoms instead. It would have been a real moneymaker.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Tue Feb 08 17:47:17 somehow these threads never get old.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 08 18:34:42 So now you are saying vaccines are not worthless? good for you river. a step back towards intelligence.
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 08 18:57:14 It's only backpeddling if I ever said that no vaccine ever helped anyone ever, which I have not.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 08 19:03:21 so then what are you trying to say?
river of bl00d Member	Tue Feb 08 19:08:31 water cures small pox.
river of bl00d Member	Tue Feb 08 19:08:50 water is a vaccine...that cures small pox.
saiko Member	Wed Feb 09 02:15:44 I think he's saying that more people have now died from getting the vaccine than would have died from smallpox.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 09 09:41:28 river is that what you are saying?
river of blood Member	Wed Feb 09 11:10:06 I'm saying that vaccines generally suck.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 09 11:13:49 what about in the case of smallpox? Does that vaccine suck?
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Wed Feb 09 11:14:28 and polio. does the vaccine for polio suck?
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Feb 09 14:51:38 Such in what way? Please try and be specific instead of just giving vague generalities.
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Feb 09 14:53:22 And which vaccines are you specifically referring to?
river of bl00d Member	Wed Feb 09 14:53:52 water cures vaccines.
Dakyron Member	Wed Feb 09 16:29:50 Epic ownage. TTT
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Feb 09 17:28:23 For someone who has argued against this and things like this so vocally and with so much passion, RoB's responses are very vague and ill-formed. I'd have really thought that someone like this who had done this much of what he calls research would have had a better and more precise response than "I'm saying that vaccines generally suck. "
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Feb 10 01:23:49 Seriously wondering what questions that are being asked are so unreasonable that they deserve this level of avoidance.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Feb 10 01:27:04 this is what happens when your research is based on youtube clips.
Dickhead UPer Member	Thu Feb 10 12:27:28 Hmmmm
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Feb 10 16:30:53 Seriously, all of this "research" anti-vaccine posts, cheering when some guy personally believes that he himself isn't guilty, etc over the past years produces nothing more concise than "I'm saying that vaccines generally suck. " ? Really?
Madc0w Member	Thu Feb 10 16:42:21 How about in the case of the smallpox vaccine, RoB? It really did a lot of good, didn't it?
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Feb 10 16:52:25 Also waiting on an answer to my questions. Of course, if you believe that vaccines work and do what they're supposed to, then my questions become irrelevant. Just let me know if this is the case and I'll happily withdraw them.
Madc0w Member	Thu Feb 10 19:35:11 RoB, you are obviously avoiding this thread, since you've been active and creating other threads. You believe you're right, so why don't you defend yourself?
miltonfriedman Member	Fri Feb 11 00:46:47 river of basement will make another thread on the danger of vaccines in a couple of weeks once he thinks this episode "dies down." This thread needs to be ttt'd to keep that from happening.
Dickhead UPer Member	Fri Feb 11 09:43:03 What's the matter RoB?
Camaban The Overseer	Fri Feb 11 17:03:02 ttt
Asgard Member	Fri Feb 11 18:23:11 "please explain to me how smallpox was eradicated" I made this question-thread, verbatim, a few years ago too. RoB was still and is still talking bullshit.
miltonfriedman Member	Fri Feb 11 22:34:09 I am going out to get drunk. Before I go, ttt.
Camaban The Overseer	Sat Feb 12 17:45:04 Ttt love the complete ownage.
miltonfriedman Member	Sun Feb 13 10:42:04 Only you can prevent river of basement from creating more idiotic threads on vaccines.
miltonfriedman Member	Mon Feb 14 13:23:15 ttt
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Feb 14 16:52:31 i believe that the cost/benefit of me, as an individual, getting the flu vaccine is such that i ought not do it. overall, however, i benefit from everyone around me having taken it. oh, and Vodka both cures the common cold and is cheaper then conventional antibiotics. [just to stir the pot.]
ehcks Member	Mon Feb 14 17:43:21 Cost to you? Mine was free and I don't have insurance..
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 15 14:19:40 river where are you?
miltonfriedman Member	Tue Feb 15 14:46:57 "oh, and Vodka both cures the common cold and is cheaper then conventional antibiotics." Yes. And I hope you realize that antibiotics do not cure cold. Jesus Christ...
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 15 14:57:45 I'm right here. Can I help you?
Madc0w Member	Tue Feb 15 15:46:11 So the smallpox vaccine was pretty awesome, wasn't it, RoB? Are you going to admit that?
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Feb 15 16:04:08 Suck in what way? Please try and be specific instead of just giving vague generalities. Someone who's spent as much time and effort as you have "researching" and debating this must surely have more specific objections than they "generally suck" Of course, if you're trying to avoid expressing anything concrete enough to be argued, then that's fair enough... Bit cowardly though...
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 15 18:46:25 There are thousands of vaccines. Some of them might be preferable to have had rather than not to have had. Many of them (maybe most) are either useless or quite probably doing more harm than good. And I'm in good company on this belief.
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 15 18:51:18 Even doctors that generally like vaccines agree that we are now WAY over innoculating people and creating serious health risks as a result.
river of blood Member	Tue Feb 15 18:52:41 And the whole argument about how everyone had a responsibilty to everyone else to get vaccinated for diseases is basically flawed since, if you don't want to get a particular diease, then only YOU allegedly have to get vaccinated for it.
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Feb 15 19:24:13 So please cite some specific examples. To save time, try avoiding anything from the disgraced former Dr. Wakefield who has most definitely not been vindicated. On your other specific claim here: >>And the whole argument about how everyone had a responsibilty to everyone else to get vaccinated for diseases is basically flawed since, if you don't want to get a particular diease, then only YOU allegedly have to get vaccinated for it. << It is commonly accepted that not all vaccines 100% work and that there are many who either haven't been vaccinated (the very, very young) or can't be vaccinated for many reasons, this is why you have had the concept of herd immunity explained to you on multiple occasions. That you continue to ignore this when trotting out bollocks like that does nothing more than confirm your lack of intellectual honesty. Why do you continually ignore the role of herd immunity in protecting those who either can't be vaccinated or haven't been vaccinated for legitimate reasons? Is it really such a difficult concept? If something this simple is a difficult concept for you, why do you persist in pretending to understand something you obviously don't?
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Feb 15 19:31:36 In response to your first post as well: Despite having been asked to be a bit more specific, the only way you could have really been less specific was to go back to your original "I'm saying that vaccines generally suck. "
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 15 21:14:09 so at least river is conceding part of his point.
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Feb 15 21:26:48 While attempting to make it impossible for anyone to identify which actual parts are/aren't conceded. Just in case someone who claims to have looked at a person once uploads a youtube video about how bad they are.
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Feb 16 17:01:08 TTT
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Feb 16 19:29:07 TTT
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Feb 17 16:08:59 Ttt and wondering how many questions will be ignored this time... Assuming the coward returns.
Rugian Member	Thu Feb 17 16:23:42 Damn...Camaban is on the HUNT for RoB's ass right now.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Feb 17 17:52:33 How many vaccines threads river of spamming has made since then? ZERO. Only you can prevent river of basement from making more threads on vaccines. ttt
river of bl00d Member	Fri Feb 18 10:14:51 facts cures river of blood.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Feb 18 10:57:52 lol
Camaban The Overseer	Sat Feb 19 16:12:46 TTT
Isaksson Member	Sun Feb 20 07:44:06 I must say that water could infact heal anything if researchers aim their research towards that direction... ... my sister study to nurse and after discussing with her i suddenly always get tired after dinner. What the education do to her is forming her into a stereotype. For instance i bet my balls that my red bloodcells (eng word??) didn't search to my intertines after dinner causing cold hands and wearyness after eating, after studying along with my sister, it does!
river of bl00d Member	Tue Feb 22 00:57:15 water cures ttt
miltonfriedman Member	Wed Feb 23 20:18:48 this thread cures river of blood's retardation.
Madc0w Member	Thu Feb 24 00:26:56 RoB's strategy: run away for a week, then when people call you out on it, say you're right there to answer their questions, then avoid actually answering them and run away for another week.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Feb 24 00:47:42 this may be the greatest owning in UP history. muhahahahah
miltonfriedman Member	Sat Feb 26 20:52:45 ttt
miltonfriedman Member	Sat Feb 26 20:53:19 this thread should be stickied.
Aeros Member	Sat Feb 26 21:37:19 I second the motion for this thread being stickied.
miltonfriedman Member	Tue Mar 01 19:15:44 this thread is too awesome.
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Mar 01 20:29:13 I was tempted to let it drop off to see how long it took him to re-appear. Although I think this is the first time someone has been owned badly enough to leave the board for this long.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Mar 03 23:58:56 Never forget
miltonfriedman Member	Fri Mar 04 20:27:50 The worst massacre since Sudan crisis.
dakyron Member	Fri Mar 04 21:21:14 Coming home today there was this old, shitty looking Volvo with this pale frizzy haired weirdo driving it at about the speed of a tortoise. Right on the back window was a decal that said "Infowars.com". As it turned into this shitty mobile home, I immediately wondered if RoB was here visiting family or something...
Sam Adams Member	Fri Mar 04 22:31:19 why are bad drivers always fucking retards?
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Mar 07 12:21:47 RoB got a job? Does this explains his absence? LOL
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Mar 16 01:51:11 TTT for unanswered questions. And does anyone here who put a TTT or something like that object to me clearing it out? On the grounds that it's content-free spam that's cluttering the thread.
Rugian Member	Wed Mar 16 11:51:19 ttt
Camaban The Overseer	Tue Mar 22 18:31:22 RoB's back!
Midion Member	Tue Apr 19 10:05:39 TTT Why? Because I can.............
Camaban The Overseer	Thu May 05 16:30:27 RoB's back!
Camaban The Overseer	Sun Aug 07 22:01:12 RoB's back!
McKobb Member	Fri Jun 14 23:32:49 Pox
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sat Jun 15 00:21:37 Is this thread from feb 2013, or feb 2012?
Ork Member	Sat Jun 15 01:51:59 2012. Some of the usernames in this thread were not here when I started lurking again. Hilarious thread.
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 15 02:11:50 Guys, can we please not lose track of calling Fucking Retard Fucking retard? Oh and this thread is awesome. It may lead to Rob rage quitting for a few days.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 15 02:29:12 This thread is the essence of UP and why we are all still here.
INTERESTING FACTS Member	Sat Jun 15 04:55:15 "Is this thread from feb 2013, or feb 2012?" Check the dates: "Sun Feb 06" Feb 06 2013 was a Wednesday Feb 06 2012 was a Monday Feb 06 2011 was a Sunday <------
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 15 07:06:28 lol
river of blood Member	Sun Jun 16 11:36:49 Alright, jesus h christ, I'll address this. Leave me at least the last post. Need to read through again.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Jun 17 08:25:59 You will not respond you chicken shit.
ample parking Member	Mon Jun 17 10:55:00 Someone else will take the last post and rob will claim he didn't have the opportunity to do it.
Ork Member	Mon Jun 17 11:23:08 http://www...hread=62528&time=1371486146208 Good thing thread space is always ample, ample parking.
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