Utopia Talk / Politics / Where to Be Free

williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 03:14:13 After working for some years as an academic translator at a University, I began tentatively sending off my CV to respected commercial agencies, and for the last year or so I’ve built up working relationship with 4 agencies that are now sending me more work than I can cope with. The money is decidedly better than the Uni money, and works out at roughly €40-50/h. It can get double that for emergency jobs, or very easy jobs. Furthermore, a lot of these international transactions are quite easy to ”disappear”, should one be so inclined. But much more important: it’s all completely based on Internet communication, which means that I am completely free to work anywhere I want. So, I’m looking into taking the plunge and moving to a dream location. Currently, I’m drooling over houses on Crete and Sicily – prices are ridiculous, a nice 200sqm house with a swimming pool, large garden, two balconies and 10 min walk to the mediterranean only costs about €700 a month and the cost of living is very cheap for a Swede earning a good Swedish wage. And, of course, within the EU, I can just fuck off tomorrow and live the rest of my life in Sicily without ever registering a single paper to any govt. I can hardly believe this is actually starting to come true heh… So: Any other good places to check out? The point of this plan is to live somewhere really nice and enjoy life, but also to save money for the next several years. Only obligation is to my cat.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 03:24:57 I know another guy who's in a similar position who spent two years on a round the world cruise working...however, my cat wouldn't be too happy about that.
Paramount Member	Sun Sep 11 04:07:06 I've never been to Sicily or to Italy for that matter so I can't say if I would move there. But I have been to Mallorca and I love that island. Especially Palma. A charming city. Best tapas I have ever had. Good wine. Not sure I would settle down there though. Maybe Hawaii. Or Tokyo.
Paramount Member	Sun Sep 11 04:10:30 But if I would have to stay within the EU... hm yes, Palma. Or something similar. I don't know. I can't decide.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 05:03:50 Hmmm, worth looking at. Another guy is talking about Samos
Consvativ Member	Sun Sep 11 05:26:09 Both Crete and Sicily have been overrun by refugees, you should move there.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 05:36:50 Goddam, Samos looks pretty damn nice too. Got the greek sea and culture, but the siicilian greenery...
The Children Member	Sun Sep 11 06:43:54 god damn boy, sounds like u have made it. 50 bucks an sounds supersweet and yea u can live on some place where its beautifull and not have 2 deal with crazy government red tape and paper work. can u fish and take food from nature 2 eat when u want. if yes, than that wuld be the ultimate free man. no longer chained as wage slave but still some spare moniez on the side 4 the occasional emergancy or occasionally going 2 a big town and live like a king. and on normal days enjoy the fkin nature trees and shit and when ur hungry pop some fish or prawns on the bbq that u just picked up urself with some cold soda. no fkin worriez about bills and shit no more. fkin A.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 06:48:02 I absolutely want a garden to grow shit. I'm hoping for a garden with an olive tree whcih are very common there. In fact, since it might be tricky getting hold os swedish snuff, Im thinking of even growing alittle tobacco. Fishing etc would be great too.
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Sep 11 07:02:49 williamthebastard Member Sun Sep 11 03:24:57 "my cat wouldn't be too happy about that." Oddfag confirmed for cat lady.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 07:47:00 "I've never been to Sicily" Sicily is fucking great, every single shitty little cafe serves great food, people are, of course, fairly ebullient as they tend to be around the Med, crystal clear sea water, but combined with a lush, green sub-tropical scenery. But Crete sounds great too, one of the hearts of western civilization and philosophy, great scenery, etc - Crete has an advantage in that its a popular resort for people wanting to retire there, so they have a whole industry going for long term rentals for people who want to live there a couiple of years before buying property,
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Sep 11 07:59:10 Crete is a fantasy come true. Combination of climate, food and scenery is impossible to beat.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Sep 11 08:01:26 Elounda. Couldn't remember the name, but finally did
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 08:30:35 Thanks, will have a look
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 08:36:22 I was totally set on Crete until I stupidly checked prices on Sicily. Its generally a fairly expensive place for tourists so I haven't bothered checking, even though that's where I've had my most enjoyable holiday ever, probably, so imagine my confusion when I saw that rents and cost of living for the native residents are almost as cheap as Crete...I still have a tender spot for Crete though, and my sis who just returned from a holiday therethat had her crying when she had to return home hates me for even considering moving there, she says that the fact I have the opportunity is downright immoral
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 08:55:50 Ah, Elounda= north coast? I think thats the less touristy side, right?
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 08:57:49 How is the Internet there? I dont need anything fancy, but do need a reliable connection - from what I've seen on forums, it seems to work pretty well?
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Sep 11 10:41:34 It is a touristy place, I think. But so what? A sight of a fat middle aged Russian or Ukrainian man in speedos, with a twenty years old supermodel massaging him never bothered me. I lived in a five star hotel so their wifi was excellent. I don't know how good the local providers are. But this is 2016, I doubt Internet is a problem there
Sam Adams Member	Sun Sep 11 10:49:34 " Crete is a fantasy come true. Combination of climate, food and scenery is impossible to beat." Nah, not enough mountains. Go here. Although the price will not be nice... http://www...unnen.jpg?width=540&height=280
Ork Member	Sun Sep 11 10:54:39 Greece.
pillz Member	Sun Sep 11 11:02:45 Much higher odds you will be lynched in Greece. So go there.
Paramount Member	Sun Sep 11 11:06:23 Doesn't the mob run Sicily? Man, you gotta be careful so you don't piss anyone off if you go to there.
The Children Member	Sun Sep 11 11:55:56 the ultimate life man the ultimate life fuck wage slavery. fck billz fck redtape and paperwork
The Children Member	Sun Sep 11 12:05:02 like my asian bros with the giant shrimps. fck me look at the size of those buggers. literally 2 hours ago still in the river. 25 fkin bucks over here, over there fkin free coz there so many of them. those tiger prawns, r they tiger prawns i dunt even know wtf they r, just fkin huge. pop m on the grill whenever u wanna eat. ice cold soda, just eat slowly and enjoy the fck out of life. no fkin worries, no fkin wage slavery. what a life. what a life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qJwhDq2fCw
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Sep 11 13:02:50 Crete and Sicily have *possible* negatives. Turkey and Greece are both still claiming Crete which might possibly erupt in violence someday and I guess is the Mafia is still alive and well in Sicily. Not sure if that could ever prove unhealthy or not. Would probably be fine though I live in Little Italy here in Kansas City and I am surrounded by what is left of them and I feel the safest I have ever felt. How about The Riviera or Andorra or Southern Spain?
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 13:58:11 Spain doesnt really do good food, not compared to their neighbors,and my mom has a place on the Riviera which I a) don't like, and b) would be a disaster to have my mom in nagging distanc every summer. Sam's thing looks great, but dodgy Internet etc
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 13:59:31 I think Crete still has the best ring to it, though.
The Children Member	Sun Sep 11 14:01:06 try central europe, places like croatia. looked fkin beautifull, clear blue water, small towns and rivers. i liked how he just plucked the clams, seefood and shit straight from the ocean and made soup and meals out of it later. lol@stonesoup not 2 sure bout that though. they filmed game of thrones here i think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr2VelRd-AE
williamthebastard Member	Sun Sep 11 14:07:12 Youre right, there are some beautiful places around there, but they dont have the climate
Cloud Strife Member	Sun Sep 11 14:11:23 Italy is awesome. Greece is pretty cool too.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Sep 11 14:12:27 I only had one Spanish meal in my life and that was at a really nice Spanish restaurant in San Francisco, it was magnificent. I have no idea what the rest of it is like. :) As for my mom, I miss that old lady everyday of my life. You should cherish yours while you have her.
smart dude Member	Sun Sep 11 19:15:54 "I only had one Spanish meal in my life and that was at a really nice Spanish restaurant in San Francisco, it was magnificent." Such a depressing story.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Sep 11 19:55:52 I've always thought so.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Mon Sep 12 09:18:33 'however, my cat wouldn't be too happy about that. ' Here is a decent solution to the cat problem. http://coo...uploads/images/Ginger-Beef.png
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 23 17:43:01 Well, looking like Sicily by December, I think. I can already feel the weight of the oppression of modern civilization fall from my shoulders as I prepare for a life growing tomatoes (to hide my weed) in a Sicilian garden, the Med glistening 300 yards away against a deep blue, cloudless sky... :DDD
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Fri Sep 23 18:13:38 so odefish lost hiz job az a fuzzie studie teecher aftar beein caught blowin male studentz in da toiletz?
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 23 18:18:35 caut
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Fri Sep 23 18:24:39 do u remembar a couple of yeerz ago wen u sed u got in2 a bar fite with sum1 ovar a cigarete and aftar wrestlin wit him on da ground u sat on his face?
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 09:28:57 At 400EUR a month, I have been forced to consider Malta and have sent off an email to the estate agent for more info on this ridiculous semi-castle lol http://franksalt.com.mt/properties/102547
Sam Adams Member	Fri Sep 30 10:53:38 Spend more money to be near the beach.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:17:30 Well, to be honest, I'm seriously tempted to rent this mansion on the sea on Crete, just to live like Trump for a while: http://www...-l4319920?ref=searchListViewLD
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Sep 30 13:26:23 Can you make a living in Crete or Sicily? As a translator it seems you would want to go to New York or Brussels. New York probably being the freest.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:29:10 Re: first post
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Sep 30 13:36:34 RE: my question. Can you make a living there? I'm assuming you intend to be a translator.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:37:08 Sigh. "and for the last year or so I’ve built up working relationship with 4 agencies that are now sending me more work than I can cope with. The money is decidedly better than the Uni money, and works out at roughly €40-50/h. It can get double that for emergency jobs, or very easy jobs. Furthermore, a lot of these international transactions are quite easy to ”disappear”, should one be so inclined. But much more important: it’s all completely based on Internet communication, which means that I am completely free to work anywhere I want. "
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:39:46 Each monday morning, after a slow breakfast and lots of coffee, I open my inbox to find a week's worth of work lying there. I do it. I upload it. At the end of the month, money arrives in my online account. I can work anywhere in the world that will let me in and has Internet.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Sep 30 13:40:38 Yes we read it the first time you massive tool.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:42:00 Malta and Crete have two distinct advantages: they both only demand ID and a rental contract to get a bank account; Greece even has some easy non-resident account thing. This is extremely interesting, cos these are bank accounts I could use in international business that the Swedish state knows nothing about...
Rugian Member	Fri Sep 30 13:45:34 I love WTB's transition from psychotic sociologist to rich douchebag. Quite the makeover, mate.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:52:13 Not at all. From my mansion on an island, I intend to gather an army of top security cleared and sworn translators, and by infiltrating the top levels of international power and mistranslating everything toward my own ends, I shall release psychotic sociology on you all.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Sep 30 13:52:14 wtb, sorry. I did not read your post that closely. I was picturing you at the United Nations giving voice translations with earphones on. That being the case I hope you make the best decision and I wish you well.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 13:53:22 ty
Sam Adams Member	Fri Sep 30 14:32:10 You should at the very least hire some below minimum wage slaves out of all those refugees to do your minion work.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Sep 30 14:36:25 or just build a robot
State Department Member	Fri Sep 30 14:39:39 Ok who hacked wtb's account?
McKobb Member	Fri Sep 30 14:42:55 Sounds like a plan!
Sam Adams Member	Fri Sep 30 14:48:39 "or just build a robot" True. Then you can have a minion without your crime rate going up. Good point.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Sep 30 14:51:49 Then it is done. I shall build a robot.
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