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Habebe
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Sun Mar 29 09:03:24 2020
So the is has charged Mauro as a criminal, similar to Noriega (sp)

Russia gets out pf the oil trade in V.

Its an election year, Trump would love to tout regime change in V. I mean this isn't even nasty regime change, nobody really wants him in there.
McKobb
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Sun Mar 29 09:06:49 2020
Just dont fuck with my hallacas.
Habebe
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Sun Mar 29 10:10:06 2020
The is= the US*
Dakyron
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Mon Mar 30 01:51:33 2020
Maduro, not Mauro.

Anyway, strange timing. If not for Corona we could have possibly seen a Venezuela invasion.
Habebe
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Mon Mar 30 01:54:15 2020
Typo.
Nimatzo
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Mon Mar 30 13:22:37 2020
Dakyron
When Corona goes away and the economy is in shambles a war is great to jump start everything.
Pillz
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Mon Mar 30 13:42:12 2020
Invading Venezuela hardly seems like itd count.

Iran, however..
Habebe
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Mon Mar 30 16:18:24 2020
Venezuela gives the US a a lot more sway in SA, already doing well Brazil and Chile...good trends. Plus why invade? We already have a legit leader ready to step up and the world backs him.

Iran is next.
Nimatzo
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Mon Mar 30 17:25:36 2020
Iran is too much work.
Habebe
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Mon Mar 30 17:32:34 2020
Iran is on path to self implode already.Covid was the final straw.

Or I'm wrong.
jergul
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Tue Mar 31 12:43:31 2020
Or you could go with the dissolution of your own Union. A lot of stress fractures are relieved if you simply let States chose their own paths.
jergul
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Tue Mar 31 12:44:16 2020
I am a staunch believer in full state rights.
Habebe
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Tue Mar 31 18:01:28 2020
Your a puppy eating Soviet.We get it, you hate the US.
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 00:33:24 2020
Why would you even say that? I love the US so much that I want there to be many more of it.

So many of your worries would go away with the implementation of full state rights. The Deep State can only flourish from its cluster infestation within the Federal government.

Correct me if you think that is wrong.

The only disadvantage I see is there would be many fewer cases of people leaving all options on the table or invasions to force regime change.

What will we watch on tv?
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 00:36:45 2020
I am pretty sure Texas and California would be tied for the strongest military on the planet.

Two first places and none in 2nd. That is even more dominating that the US in first place and China in 2nd.
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 00:45:05 2020
Anyway, I think threads that idly speculate on what countries the US should invade next is the perfect place to idly speculate on when and how the federal union should be dissolved.

Maybe soon. It would be a good way for the President to side-step an election loss.

President Trump of Florida does have a fitting ring to it.
LazyCommunist
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Wed Apr 01 00:46:58 2020
You will invade no one

http://www...raft-carrier-with-15167883.php

Exclusive: Captain of aircraft carrier with growing coronavirus outbreak pleads for help from Navy

The captain of a nuclear aircraft carrier with more than 100 sailors infected with the coronavirus pleaded Monday with U.S. Navy officials for resources to allow isolation of his entire crew and avoid possible deaths in a situation he described as quickly deteriorating.


Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 02:34:23 2020
We could just invade and plunder Norway. I mean its small enough that no one would really care, they are rather wealthy, enough to cover the costs of a 2nd wave of checks.

This is how National Socialism worked, they paid for the social plans by plundering. It may be frowned upon, but it works.
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 02:38:19 2020
I mean, think about it, Russia took Crimea and what did Europe do? Nothing, because they have no army, the men are busy cooking doing while the wives play soccer...who would stop us?
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 02:55:42 2020
All these grandoise visions. Saddam also thought he could just nab an oil rich country. The said country hired PR people and look at how that played out.

Your failure of imagination is stunning. What problem would not go away if the federal government was simply dissolved with the flourish of felt pens?

No more debt, no more federal taxes. No federal judges telling you what you can do in your state.

Gone!
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 03:29:11 2020
We just need Trump to go full on Caesar. Cross the Rubican, rename April to Trump, storm the house of representatives with platoon of space soldiers.

Why did Saddam fail? Because he battled with the US, Norway would even easier, do you even have a real military?

jergul
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Wed Apr 01 06:48:52 2020
Habebe
lol, boots on the ground? Norway is like Afghanistan geographically. Except a lot worse. I can literally see the whole airport including the military aircraft creches from my living room window. And by see, I mean looking right into them. An ATGM could have a field day from *anywhere*

We have a coscript military for a reason. Everyone and their dog has done military service.
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 07:10:46 2020
So no real military, lisntheen are busy cooking dinner and knitting while the women play soccer andfinger bang each other...

Plundering and rebuilding a nation are different.
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 07:12:31 2020
"We have a coscript military for a reason. Everyone and their dog has done military service."

So you have an army of slaves and livestock....im so scared.
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 07:22:37 2020
Same type of army that won wwii. There is no way to isolate people with military grade weapon familiarity.

Anyone could be the peeps shooting ATGMs at your transport aircraft as the do their landing approaches.

You have been deterred!

But just thinking the thought helps explain why you should dissolve your union.

Its bad to want to invade countries, mkay?
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 07:30:42 2020
"Same type of army that won wwii"

Oh you mean the war where Norway was conquered?

"Its bad to want to invade countries, mkay?"

Think of it as a robbery, plunder if you will.
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 07:47:11 2020
Or we could just think of you as batshit crazy and best confined within a single State.

It truly is a failure of imagination. I suggest how great things will be with full state rights. You freak out and want to invade yet another country.

Is it the shrooms, is it the weed, or is it just you?
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 07:49:31 2020
Careful now, I would not want to up my recommendation to you best confined withint a single State institution.
Nimatzo
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Wed Apr 01 09:57:52 2020
Jergul
"Is it the shrooms, is it the weed, or is it just you?"

There is no way you get like this on shrooms or weed, quite the contrary effect. No, this is meth and oxycontin combination.
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 10:23:42 2020
Nimatzo, I would never do oxycontin.
Daemon
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Wed Apr 01 10:29:58 2020
"We just need Trump to go full on"

Retard Trump as a dictator? You really don't want that.
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 10:41:04 2020
Daemon, No, but the thought is amusing and would likley lead to imperialism.
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 14:20:08 2020
You better hurry with that invasion plan. One of your carriers has been mission killed. You have two that are mission capable right now.
Habebe
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Wed Apr 01 14:28:57 2020
Its Norway, they could barley stop one guy with a gun.
jergul
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Wed Apr 01 15:16:41 2020
Sir Breivik sends his regards. He knows you need support in these troubling times.
Nimatzo
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Wed Apr 01 19:41:37 2020
Jergul
I have been given new information, it’s only the meth.
Habebe
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Sun Apr 05 23:19:28 2020
http://amp...enezuela/article241709161.html

Now, we're building up a military presence on the shores. Of Venezuela.

Yup, Maduro is out.
jergul
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Mon Apr 06 00:13:57 2020
He will outlast Trump.
Habebe
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Mon Apr 06 00:22:58 2020
I'll take that bet.
Nimatzo
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Mon Apr 06 00:36:52 2020
If you lose, you must change your forum tag to ”Maduroed”.

For Jergul, it’s Trumpicated.
jergul
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Mon Apr 06 02:20:48 2020
Nimi
No. No upside for me.

Besides, I am just mirroring bad behavior. My actual forecasts come in 10000 universe formats.
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