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Im better then you
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Tue May 12 20:45:41 2020
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWu-Lfs4WA

I find it hard to believe a Special Forces guy thought he could overthrow a government with just 13 guys.
Rugian
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Tue May 12 21:28:55 2020
Im guessing someone really got into the story of Hernan Cortez and tried to follow his example.
Dakyron
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Tue May 12 21:40:39 2020
Guessing he was expecting help, but it never showed. Either his fellow revolutionaries chickened out, or they were found out,
Habebe
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Tue May 12 21:48:31 2020
15 milluon is a big bounty, i think the plan was to just kidnap the Maduro, but they knew about it ahead of time. Not difficult as the lead guy was bragging about it on Twitter prior to the event.
Habebe
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Tue May 12 21:50:40 2020
Rugian,

1520 ,Jergul:" There is no way cortez could fight Montezumas finest Aztec warriors, they will likely take the spanish ships and conquer Europe"
Rugian
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Tue May 12 21:55:50 2020
Habebe -

Followed by twenty posts touting the superiority of S-400 missiles against Spanish cavalry.
LazyCommunist
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Tue May 12 22:16:16 2020
Your many coups never worked in Cuba, neither will they ever work in Venezuela.

Venceremos!
Forwyn
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Tue May 12 22:53:30 2020
Get a hundred dirt poor farmers with AKs to assault a police station in the capital, SpecOps team moves in for the bounty/coup
Sam Adams
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Tue May 12 23:00:23 2020
lol Baghdad jergul would for sure have stated the incan army was a virtual lock to defeat the conquistadors.

Because stone age civs aren't really that far behind iron age civs, you know.

lulz.
Forwyn
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Wed May 13 00:35:29 2020
"Invaders will quickly find their armor is a liability, and be bogged down by swarms of invaders. Toledo steel is also vastly overrated. It will rust in the humid environment and become useless."
sam adams
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Wed May 13 03:27:08 2020
"A mob with stone clubs is better than an armored phalanx anyway."

Haha
Habebe
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Wed May 13 03:31:20 2020
Forwyn Jergul was spot on.
Habebe
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Wed May 13 03:31:40 2020
Forwyn*
Habebe
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Wed May 13 03:31:56 2020
Damnit add an S.
jergul
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Wed May 13 12:56:15 2020
Gaslighting is all you got these days?

My thesis is and has always been that for as long as western forces have extreme casualty aversion, then it is relatively easy to deter attacks.

Any one of you asshats still think invading and occupying Iraq was worth it?

No?

I win.
jergul
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Wed May 13 12:59:51 2020
Sammy
1520. Spaniards have died! We have to stay away from invading and simply stand offshore and shoot cannonballs into their coastal villages!
Rugian
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Wed May 13 13:34:59 2020
Tenochtitlan Jergul: "La Noche Triste has permanently destroyed Spanish power projection in the New World. Also Europe will decline to 12.5% of global GDP by 1525."
Forwyn
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Wed May 13 15:54:33 2020
If there's one way to find a cuck, it's someone who uses the term "gaslighting" unironically (and incorrectly).
Paramount
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Wed May 13 16:51:24 2020
My guess is that Mr Trump planned it, and he thought 13 people would be sufficient because his friend The Saudis only used 13 something special forces when they attacked America.
jergul
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Wed May 13 17:24:11 2020
Forwyn
Feel free to tell us what you think it means. I use it to describe systematic application of inaccurate information to cement negative sentiments.

Which is of course your only contribution in this forum. Mostly directed at Seb.

Ruggy
Try at least to get the historic mathematical understanding right. Tenochtitlan did not have a decimal system or even the concept of zero.
jergul
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Wed May 13 17:26:33 2020
Oh, I am declaring 12.5 by 2020. At some point in the last months, US economic activity fell to that level.

Mission fucking accomplished!

Now maybe proceed with less of a bloated service sector?
Rugian
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Wed May 13 17:30:25 2020
Jergul

Im just joking here. All kidding aside, I don't think you would have been pro-Tenochtitlan at all in 1520.



After all, the Aztecs weren't allies of Vasili III.
jergul
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Wed May 13 17:44:20 2020
Ruggy
You equate critical thoughts on US policy with being pro something else.

You have an incredibly binary mind. If he is not rooting for my team, then there must be some other team he is rooting for.

Its more me saying the game itself sucks because the rules have been debased.
Pillz
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Wed May 13 17:58:45 2020
Nobody is gas lighting you or Seb. You're both just unintentionally satirical, like Jezebel or those swj papers that get posted.

The fact that after 20 years of stagnation and even cultural degeneration on UP you both still post walls of text nobody but the two of you take seriously just makes you wordy caricatures at this point.

There's no reason to apply critical thinking when the only appropriate interaction to take with you is ridicule.

And while swordtail may have a perfect 100% Russian-only posting
Pillz
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Wed May 13 17:59:24 2020
Record, you're clearly the biggest cheerleader on UP.

Have you ever not Sided with Russia or Putin?
jergul
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Wed May 13 18:19:54 2020
For example my claiming that the annexation of Crimea was a far worse travesty than the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Iraq at least is to some extent reversible given enough time.

The problem you should be identifying is how batshit anti-everything not GOP you guys are.

Any dissent in your mind is treason.

This forum is interesting specifically because of its anti-bubble effects. I read stuff I might not otherwise have seen.

Your dogpiling, gaslighting, echochamberism is uninteresting precisely because it is repetative regurgerations of stuff I have already read 1000 times before.
Sam Adams
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Wed May 13 18:20:21 2020
"Oh, I am declaring 12.5 by 2020."

Like most things you declare, you are wrong.

At no point was the us shut down while china and europe were not already shut down.
jergul
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Wed May 13 18:28:51 2020
Sammy
I am correct. The shutdown murdered the service sector. Public employment and manufacturing suffered far less.

Next time, perhaps not run with a bloated service sector full of Mc jobs?

It add no value to anything for anyone.
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