Utopia Talk / Politics / Mucho amigos arrive in Martha's Vineyard

Habebe Member	Wed Sep 14 20:45:49 This is the best political stunt of recent memory. The left idiots online are calling this human trafficking, Im guessing it came from MSNBC. Giving people plane and bus trips is not human trafficking.
murder Member	Wed Sep 14 20:48:44 Sure it is.
murder Member	Wed Sep 14 20:49:43 Just give them housing and generous benefits ... and send Texas the bill.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Sep 14 21:12:41 Lol. Im sure the limousine liberals will love the low iq migrants showing up in their perfect little beach town.
Forwyn Member	Wed Sep 14 21:21:50 "send Texas the bill" lol fucking retard
Hrothgar Member	Wed Sep 14 21:27:55 It is indeed pretty damn genius political trolling and frankly smart at proving a point to liberal bastions far away from the southern border who don't really have a grasp for what it's like.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 14 21:56:08 it’s a dick move sending them without any notice to places with no services set up for them but yeah, politically probably effective (since no one cares about the people)
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 14 22:00:33 TW, If your an illegal Immigrant would you rather be in a TX border town or Martha's Vineyard? Seriously? I'm sure Obama can help build a rec center to house/feed immigrants, MV can afford it, they just don't want a bunch of immigrants walking around town, you know that's true.
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 14 22:00:53 Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 14 22:09:03 there's no excuse for giving no notice/warning (just valuing making a point over caring one bit about their well-being)
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 14 22:23:41 If they gave them a heads up do You think they would let them in? Its real rich for these multi millionaires on MV call themselves a sanctuary city mind you, to push for policies that increase illegal immigration because they aren't RSVPing? Do you think the crosses are calling ahead? Its the ultimate NIMBY.
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 14 22:24:30 And yes, its about making a point. Considering Biden started building a wall, maybe its starting to work.
murder Member	Thu Sep 15 00:22:13 "lol fucking retard" Start by shutting down all their military bases. Then move the border patrol to their northern border to intercept any illegals trying to flee the state. And if that is not retarded enough, open up immigration to any Mexican that is willing to stay in Texas. And as a welcome to the US, hand them a firearm so they'll feel welcome and fit right in. It'd be hilarious! :o)
Paramount Member	Thu Sep 15 01:58:48 Assuming some of them are good people, but how many of them are rapists and murderers?
kargen Member	Thu Sep 15 02:11:30 "it’s a dick move sending them without any notice to places with no services set up for them" The border towns are overwhelmed and have no place for the amount of illegal immigrant crossing the border. They have for the most part run out of resources and it isn't like those crossing the border send a letter in intent first. The dick move is to act as if there is no crisis. People on the border are dying because Democrats don't like the optic.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 03:10:07 "Assuming some of them are good people, but how many of them are rapists and murderers?" Well they apparently rape 10 year olds, the left seemed more interested that the victim had to travel an hour for an abortion than about her rapist. There was also the guy who decapitated a mother in front of her kids the other day. That stuck out as noteable.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 03:13:17 http://www...ght-outside-Bay-Area-home.html Paramount, Marthas Vineyard is well known for being uber wealthy/connected.The Clintons/Kennedy's/Obama's vacation there.
patom Member	Thu Sep 15 05:25:08 Just deduct the costs from the FEMA money that Texas gets for all their natural disasters.
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 15 08:52:44 As I see it, those illegals got a great deal. Let's face it, Martha's Vineyard is a big step up fron the likes of Laredo or Yuma.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 15 11:49:44 these came from DeSantis... i guess the govs trying to one up each other down there "The dick move is to act as if there is no crisis. People on the border are dying because Democrats don't like the optic" have R's introduced a solution? R's blasting out that Biden has an open border policy -encourages- more to come (they've been interviewed, that's what they've heard) & the dick move still is providing no notice to the local officials
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 11:55:14 " have R's introduced a solution? " Have you forgotten things like remain in Mexico & building a wall? Objectively Trumps policies reduced illegal immigration.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Sep 15 13:56:29 Ya, Rs definitely have a way better solution than Ds do on border security.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 15 14:12:00 'remain in Mexico' wasn't a solution & if the 'wall' was so helpful they would've put effort into building it where there wasn't one instead of almost entirely replacement fencing R's did shit all to pass any legislation
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 15 14:30:08 Habebe You have to understand. The left's narrative has no shifted to a "Republicans have no policies"* mantra, so people like tw can't give them any credit even for beliefs like border control and immigration restrictions. *by which they of course mean "Republicans have no policies THAT WE ACCEPT AS VALID, and of course we disagree with them on everything they believe in, so nothing the advocate for is valid." Democrats have become quite authoritarian and anti-democratic lately.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Sep 15 14:52:05 "remain in Mexico' wasn't a solution" Of course it was.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 15:11:25 TW, Wasn't it democrats who pulled all the stops to limit the amount of wall built? Remain in Mexico with other policies objectively lowered illegal immigration. You can argue you didn't like it dor whatever reasons, but there I no doubt it did the achieved goal of reducing II. This is one area where Republicans clearly had an effective policy and Biden fucked it up.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 16:14:03 For perspective, MV got 50 people, literally enough that one mansion could house them all. Elpaso TX averages 1300 a DAY.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 15 16:34:16 "Wasn't it democrats who pulled all the stops to limit the amount of wall built?" no... & i'm guessing they didn't build in new areas either as not feasible or didn't want to anger people w/ eminent domain to get the land (i don't know if anyone ever explained why... & absolutely nothing said by Trump admin could be trusted) 'remain in Mexico' wasn't ended til last month, immigration been a problem continuously, so isn't a solution
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 16:52:06 http://www...ration-on-border-idUSKCN1Q92YP On multiple occasions the dems did all they could to stop Trump from building a wall. How do you not remember that? Remain in Mexico is one part of a full plan. Trumps border had fewer immigrants illegally crossing. After Biden relaxed measures crossings increased. ------ So I compared the size nof Elpaso to MV, EP is about 3x the size but far poorer and has annualized 9,400 times more illegals. MV has claimed they have a housing crisis and have thumped their chest by offering them literally a continental breakfast at a cheap motel, oranges and cereal as they sleep on air mattresses on the floor.
kargen Member	Thu Sep 15 17:18:12 http://i.imgur.com/B26GvHs.jpg
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 15 17:36:20 sounds like they weren't even from Florida, DeSantis apparently was like 'hey, pass me some immigrants, got a funny idea' w/ indication they were lied to... plus, of course, the no excuse for not giving any notice at all so preparations could be made
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 17:47:07 The Desantis/Abbot thing is confusing. Apparently FLA paid for it but they were from San Antonio. Vague stories of being promised faster working papers and she gave them food and plane tickets.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 20:15:57 Now MV is claiming they have to leave because they have a housing crisis. This would be a great time blend in Biden's push to increase low income housing in the suburbs. I would chip in $20 to help build homeless shelters and low income housing for all the new immigrants coming in.
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 15 21:04:09 They weren't from Florida? They weren't from Texas either.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 15 21:21:59 I’ll guess Kristi Noem is next to go to the immigrant bin to airdrop somewhere
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 15 22:02:38 Obaminated, As I now understand it Desantis and Abbot have teamed up to share resources and coordinate shipments. These immigrants from Venezuela came across in Texas and Desantis helped cover the expense to fly them into MV while Abott bussed more to NYC & Kamalla Harris's house. I imagine Desantis doesn't want to get rid of his immigrants, Cubans & Venezuelans are notoriously anti Democrat/communist/socialist and have thriving communities im FLA. I almost started a thread just about how Desantis has reshaoed FLA and is continuing to really consolidate the state under Republicans. 1. It helps that Mara Lago acts as a Mecca attracting big name Republicans and celebrities. Its part of why people are fleeing NYC/CA for FLA. 2. He has piece by piece edged out the far left with policies. Even striking at their base the teachers union/teachers. Who is he trying to get to replace teachers? Veterans who have bachelors degrees, who will.be fr more likley to be Republican. And It doesn't stop there. I think its very likely this is all a coordinated plan by Trump and the mara lago MAGA to make FLA from a swing state to a solid Republican state. It was the lynchpin for years, if a Republican couldn't win FLA, they couldn't win the presidency, good long term strategy to lock that state down.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Sep 16 04:42:46 [Rugian]: "The left's narrative has no shifted to a "Republicans have no policies"* mantra, so people like tw can't give them any credit even for beliefs like border control and immigration restrictions." It's honestly hilarious :D They're so delusional that they've purged all of the realities of Trump's positive effects for this "[Pedo Pete is doing great!]"/"[Another record harvest, comrade!]" narrative. The best is the Master Class in projection. They have people like Ken Burns and Rob Reiner saying that it's authoritarian/autocracy for a politician to send migrants places, and the common losers are saying things like, "[I can't believe they *used* migrants for political purposes! What about pathos before logos!?]".... meanwhile.. as many have pointed out and as one would have to be deranged not to see, that's what Biden has been doing.. so.. if they're correct about DeSantis here, then Biden is the *ultra*-authoritarian by comparison — having done all of the left's complaints about this Vineyard stunt to the Nth degree — in which case.. they're finally right? :D And the lolcows have been great today. I've pointed out in the totalitarians thread that this following list is where the complete fucking idiots of the left get their news from on Twitter — pure psychosis-takes: - Acyn @Acyn 291.5k followers - Jeff Tiedrich @itsJeffTiedrich — 891k - Hasan @HasanTheHun — 1.1 million (BreadTuber) - Vaush @VaushV — 211.2k (BreadTuber) - Brian Tyler Cohen @briantylercohen — 538.6k - Robert Reich @RBReich — 1.5 million - TheDailyShow / Samantha Bee / John Oliver / Jon Stewart - George Takei @GeorgeTakei — 3.3 million - David Pakman @dpakman — 230.6k - AOC @AOC — 13 million - David Weissman @davidmweissman — 340.8k - Joshua Holland @JoshuaHol — 34.2k - Dan Price @DanPriceSeattle — 737k - Occupy Democrats @OccupyDemocrats — 373k - Lindy Li @lindyli — 210.6k - Patton Oswalt @pattonoswalt — 4.7 million - David Hogg @davidhogg111 — 1.2 million - Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 — 1.3 million - Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff — 3.1 million - Alex Cole @acnewsitics — 109.9k - Qasim Rashid, Esq. @QasimRashid — 338.3k - Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski — 508.3k - Rob Reiner @robreiner 2 million - Dash Dobrofsky @DashDobrofsky 123.7k (by no means a complete list; if we included paid DNC shills like "BrooklynDad_Defiant!" or hack politicians like Omar, Pressley, Warren, and Cori Bush, there would be no end.) These lolcows have towed the line on "trafficking", "smuggling", "autocracy", "authoritarian", "trauma", "[how could *Christians* do this??]", and weak pathos arguments about "using people".. again.. projecting to the extreme. People have pointed out that all the left had to do was feign like it was not a big deal (i.e., "[Send more! We truly love this!]"), but most abandoned that, and, in struggling for an angle, they left themselves with projection which only implicates themselves. Within the left-wing psychosis, this projection is justified via slave morality's "repressive tolerance", but everyone else got a good laugh today :D
murder Member	Fri Sep 16 07:35:31 "Apparently FLA paid for it but they were from San Antonio." That would be a misappropriation of funds. Also the people of Marth's Vineyard should sue Ron DeSantis (not Florida) for all associated costs. He was clearly not acting as Governor.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 07:40:49 I guess the new thing is if you say illegal immigrant you think all brown people are sub human. Several timea now this has been the case, and they claim people literally said they hate all brown people, but they cant pull up an accurate quote. Ive been trolling the responses by calling them holocaust deniers and they seem quite upset, they havn't figured out what trolling is apparently.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 07:48:53 Murder, Apparently the funds for this was voted on with bipartisan support.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 07:48:53 Murder, Apparently the funds for this was voted on with bipartisan support.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 08:39:48 There is now a petition on Change.org to help build low income housing on Martha's Vineyard. I love it.
murder Member	Fri Sep 16 10:16:48 "Murder, Apparently the funds for this was voted on with bipartisan support." Miami Herald @MiamiHerald 5/ That’s why the location is key here. When the Florida Legislature approved the new state program, it also approved some rules for it in the state budget. It said DeSantis was allowed to “transport unauthorized aliens from this state” in ways consistent with federal law. http://twitter.com/MiamiHerald/status/1570518024347856896
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 10:59:42 Murder, They flew from San Antonio to Northern FLA first. Hence the coordination.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 11:19:20 http://twi...?t=llw5H3G88bjQORQ_FJ_jqg&s=19 I signed the petition to build low income housing on Martha's Vineyard.
patom Member	Fri Sep 16 11:24:25 Well I'm sure that the residents of Martha's Vineyard have a help shortage. Most of these people could be put to work almost immediately.
murder Member	Fri Sep 16 11:26:39 It'll be interesting to see how amused the usually right wing Venezuelan community in South Florida is over this.
murder Member	Fri Sep 16 11:27:54 "Murder, They flew from San Antonio to Northern FLA first." I don't think the program covers importing immigrants ... let alone importing them just to export them.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 11:58:12 So sue him. Patom, I know right! The guy who owns Fidelity lives there and is the wealthiest permanent resident at around 40+ billion Im sure he could afford some staff.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 12:33:17 So sue him. Patom, I know right! The guy who owns Fidelity lives there and is the wealthiest permanent resident at around 40+ billion Im sure he could afford some staff.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 12:33:49 I came back, didn't look like it sent so I clicked again, my bad.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 13:02:53 Usually half the houses at Martha vineyards are empty. Let these poor immigrants stay in there until we can find a better housing option.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 13:31:43 Martha vineyard deported them to a military base. Lol. They should keep sending them to Martha vineyards.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Fri Sep 16 14:22:41 The upstanding citizens of Martha's Vineyard are already generally in pretty high top marginal tax brackets. What's feeding 50 additional people, to those already bankrolling 100 or 200 people's welfare each year? Anyways, bigger picture, obviously these stunts by themselves aren't going to swing a whole lot of swing voters. But they may get some campaign contributions. So it's really a symptom of money influencing politics more than it should.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 16 14:25:45 "this following list is where the complete fucking idiots of the left get their news from..." & where do complete fucking idiots get the news that Trump wasn't trying to overturn the election up to Jan 6th (& beyond for some of his co-conspirators) or that he's allowed to just grab & keep whatever classified docs & records he wants after leaving office?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Fri Sep 16 14:26:48 @TW - number 1 news channel in the country, most mainstream of all news sources, Fox News, of course.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 16:24:25 TBH I was surprised to find out more democrats watch FOX than MSNBC or CNN. CNN is apparently being run by a Libertarian? Who knows How that plays out. MSNBC had an interesting clip of Migrants thanking Desantis for sending them to Martha's Vineyard. Hahahahahaha
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 16:25:44 Its funny the people who complain about white flight and support diversifying the suburbs don't want low income housing in their neighborhood.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Sep 16 16:26:33 Dems dont want diverse neighborhoods. They just want votes.
kargen Member	Fri Sep 16 16:52:30 2019 a few politicians that represent the vineyard district/area said they were eager to help illegal immigrants and would welcome them. When put to the test that welcome didn't last long.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 17:14:34 The most rich are the people praising the islanders for housing them for 2 days amd promptly deporting them all off their island to a military base.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 17:24:52 This troll turned out to be a huge political boon. Democrats look like horribly out of touch hypocrites when they claim de santis kidnapped the illegals and that it was inhumane.... only for the illegals to praise him and thank him for it.
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 16 18:15:51 The left literally has no good argument here. I just wish they would send more, So Paso gets 1300/day. MV could easily* hold another 85k.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 14:22:27 The libs retreated from this thread haha.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 14:33:38 i had joked about DeSantis dealing meth to get investigated by the FBI too, but maybe now he'll get his wish by acting essentially the same as a coyote lied to the people, transported them without notice or coordination with destination loc, & done for personal gain
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 14:41:28 the fraudosphere now super interested in noting they were moved off the island... the place with nothing set up for migrants & of course lying about it as always... of Ted Cruz's many: "Hmm. Rich people in blue states can deport them within 24 hours?" they weren't deported & didn't even leave the State
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 17 14:42:15 Tw, Your being delusional. 1. They were not lied to, that's misinformation. 2.Do you know what a Coyote does? He did not bring them from outside the US. 3. He took them to designated sanctuary cities. Your just salty that he pulled off such a great stunt.
kargen Member	Sat Sep 17 15:31:22 If they were not set up for migrants they should have denounced being considered a sanctuary for illegal immigrants. Instead they embraced being a sanctuary right up until the immigrants actually arrived.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 16:17:27 Its hilarious that tw is defending the ultra rich who fooled him into believing that illegals had rights and then when said ultra rich had to deal with illegals they immediately sent them to a military camp aaaaaand tw still defends them. Delusional as fuck.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 16:19:30 Looks like DeSantis is gonna keep throwing this in liberal faces. I love it. You want em? You got em. Enjoy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 16:27:32 “Sanctuary city” just means they don’t report you to the feds if that’s your only crime, not that the residents will welcome migrants into their homes (as idiot fraudospherers keep trying to suggest) so, yes, they were moved somewhere that can accommodate them... very unsurprisingly
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:41:26 Hilarious to see the left unironically cucking for the ultra wealthy because 50 were dropped in their town, while they simultaneously push for open borders. Because it's okay when 50,000 show up in poor Southern towns and strain public services and depress wages.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 16:45:01 also, I don’t think there’s any ‘sanctuary city’ designation for Martha’s Vineyard to begin with... coyote DeSantis just going for the humor
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:49:27 It was undoubtedly chosen because it's a well-known megarich haven that includes Obama.
kargen Member	Sat Sep 17 17:14:59 They are in the jurisdiction of a sanctuary designated district and the politicians in the area bragged about that status. Two or three years ago a few acted all giddy about helping any immigrants that arrived. When they got the chance they failed miserably.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 18:30:36 they helped quite a bit.... raised ~$200k for them (probably a mistake) the pawns not being resettled right where DeSantis surprise deposits them, doesn’t make anyone hypocrites
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 18:54:31 "They helped quite a bit" You fucking idiot. You fucking idiot. They deported them to a military base.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 19:06:21 @NBCNews (now deleted) "Florida Gov. DeSantis sending asylum-seekers to Martha's Vineyard is like 'me taking my trash out and just driving to different areas where I live and just throwing my trash there,' a founding member of a foundation which helps refugees says. - @NBCLatino
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 19:13:06 Lol. A Latino born in the US. Meanwhile the illegals love him.
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 17 19:55:36 "Sat Sep 17 16:27:32 “Sanctuary city” just means they don’t report you to the feds if that’s your only crime, not that the residents will welcome migrants into their homes" This is the new backpedaling after years of chest thumping of how welcoming they are unlike the cruel Right wingers. As for the go fundme , this is the best part. NONE OF THAT MONEY WILL GO TO THE MIGRANTS. The municipality is keeping the funds, I swear to god. They are placing the money in the "Martha's Vineyard community fund" which is like an investment fund for the island(s) for municipality projects , it had already had 16 million dollars. This is a bigger gift than anything Trump couldnhave dreamed up. The wealthiest island in the country cried "humanitarian crisis" because after claiming they "stood with refugees" they were given 50, gave them cereal and possibly Chipotle, profited off of them by setting up a gofundme and called in the military to deport every migrant off of the island. And the left is so delusional they argue that an island of billionaires like Oprah, Reese Witherspoon, Bill Gates and the CEO of Fidelity "lack the resources" to keep them.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Sat Sep 17 20:29:55 "...and called in the military to deport every migrant off of the island." the island can only support so many people. it wouldn't take much to upset the island's balance and send the island sinking to the bottom of the ocean.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 21:10:11 “"lack the resources" to keep them“ they aren’t pets DeSantis claims they were headed to Florida (although sounds like a lie he made up to justify using FL funds)... but if not lying, maybe they had reason for wanting to be there. Also, I recall hearing one having family in NY or something. Googling your fund claim, I see a Tucker segment as the source, so probably false & it only mentions a $40k fund that can’t be the one others reported on
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 17 21:29:34 A GoFundMe account has raised thousands of dollars for the Venezuelan immigrants placed on the island. The account which was organized by Sarah Goulet will donate all proceeds toward the Martha’s Vineyard Community Foundation. http://www...vineyard.html%3foutputType=amp Tucker called it an endowment, which admittedly I thought was hyperbole, some quick googling shows that it os a literal endowment fund. Fucking wealthy grifters. I mean Dr OZ, Trump & the pillow guy combined are not this grimey. This island literally houses Oprah, Reese Witherspoon, The Obamas, The Clintons, Fidelity CEO and as of 2014 had almost 50 millionaires, likley many more now. And they scammed people to fund this endowment while exploiting Venezuelan migrants.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 21:36:08 "A GoFundMe account" note the "A" "The organizer, Sarah Goulet - a New York-based communications and PR executive" so likely NOT the person who would be organizing the real one... Beth Folcarelli is the person mentioned in the $175k donations articles, a person who works at Martha's Vineyard Community Services but i'm sure Tucker purposely was trying to mislead people that no donation money going to the migrants as that's what he does (although going to the Martha’s Vineyard Community Foundation, whatever it is, would be a better use than to just a select group of moochers that will just invite more moochers)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 17 21:38:57 can you even build housing so shitty on that island that these 50 people wouldn't be competing w/ riff-raff from around the country?
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 17 21:52:14 That last link is not sourcing Tucker, its Masslive.com a local paper of sorts. Is there any indication the money went to the migrants?
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 17 21:55:04 http://www...help-marthas-vineyard-migrants This is the only gofundme I can find for it. Can you find a link to the alternative one?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 18 00:58:11 "Residents from across the island and other parts of the country raised more than $175,000 after the migrants’ arrival, according to Beth Folcarelli, CEO of the nonprofit Martha’s Vineyard Community Services. And while there were some large donations consisting of multiple thousands of dollars, most of the donations made for the migrants were contributions between $50 to $100, Folcarelli said." http://www...y-response-migrants/index.html i don't know by what means... maybe she's a liar
Habebe Member	Sun Sep 18 09:57:47 Before they left, all those who needed a cell phone were provided a mobile device with a US-based number, and they were all given a $50 Visa card, with the help of funds raised by the community, Folcarelli said. Even going with that, where is the rest of the money, they literally kept it for their tax free island funds. Gift of the century considering they only raised the funds because of the migrants.
obaminated Member	Sun Sep 18 12:01:32 Why are you arguing with a wall, hab?
Rugian Member	Sun Sep 18 12:14:00 Normally I don't post boomer humor, but this completely encapsulates the mindset of certain people: "Martha's Vineyard Lovingly Welcomes Immigrants To Any Other Part Of America" http://bab...s-to-any-other-part-of-america
Habebe Member	Sun Sep 18 12:50:25 Obaminated, False hope that it will eventually sink in? Rugian, The best Bee article was "Migrants reject Governor Newsome's offer assyllum stating they just fled a communist hellhole that lacked electricity"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 18 15:03:40 so they weren't given homes & jobs at the exact location DeSantis dropped them, thus liberals are hypocrites! they are still being housed, fed & looked after... but whatever...
obaminated Member	Sun Sep 18 15:28:26 Lol Tw theh are being housed and fed on a military base because liberals didn't like them around their mansions. You are fucking hilarious.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 18 21:52:03 so the Gov of Florida plucked these people from Texas & he chose to drop them on that island, so they must now live there, w/ houses constructed instantly (as zero notice given) & jobs found (presumably locally as no bridge access to the mainland) or else the left is hypocritical... makes sense, & i'm super surprised it didn't happen...
obaminated Member	Sun Sep 18 22:09:10 So your logic is..... if they cross the border they get to stay exactly where they are. Let's dumb this down for the retarded tw. Tw, do you believe in borders?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Sep 19 00:29:10 i said nothing at all about the law or immigration but it would seem Congress should update the laws... as it has seemed for decades
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Sep 19 00:58:05 afaik, these were asylum seekers, which they are legally allowed to do (if DeSantis is trafficking illegals, his crimes are piling up) no one is asking Texans to welcome them into their homes, or build them their own homes, or give them jobs... but if a blue state doesn't do all those things within a 5 mile radius of where the governor of Florida decides to dump them, then they are hypocrites... see how that's weird?
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Sep 19 01:34:33 [ep]: "@TW - number 1 news channel in the country, most mainstream of all news sources, Fox News, of course." Lol. I love ep's low-information takes :D He's basically the only one low-information enough to defend the TDS bot — the blind leading the blind XD
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Sep 19 16:15:10 ...as you deftly avoid another question or have you figured out you were completely wrong? (especially about Jan 6th) there's no doubt he was still trying to change the outcome... none... not even denials from him, he's still trying to do it in fact (although there was never any reason to doubt it, he made it quite clear the whole time, yet you did doubt for some reason)
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