Utopia Talk / Politics / Andor

Seb rank	Thu Nov 17 13:55:00 2022 So anyone else been watching this? I think it's great - it also fits with my "genre movie in spaaace" theory of what makes good star wars. It's John Le Carré in spaaace.
jergul rank	Thu Nov 17 13:56:32 2022 Rave reviews. Went under my radar. Thanks. I will check it out.
Habebe rank	Thu Nov 17 14:02:14 2022 I havn't, but Ive only heard good things from actual SW fans mind you.
Dukhat rank	Thu Nov 17 14:16:39 2022 I only watched like 2 episodes but so far it's meh. It's graded on a curve because the sequel trilogy was so bad.
Seb rank	Thu Nov 17 14:54:46 2022 It's slow burn dukhat - gets better. I do think it could have been condensed a bit.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Nov 17 18:52:17 2022 Ya episode 1 was boring enough so that i only watched 1, but decent enough to still be on my list for indoor stairmaster season.
williamthebastard rank	Thu Nov 17 19:48:39 2022 Im still waiting for them to try to film the Shadow of the Torturer series, very weird and higly acclaimed SciFi
jergul rank	Thu Nov 17 20:31:15 2022 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peripheral_(TV_series) Waay better than the reviews suggest. Gibson's novel was similarly disjointed with a tinge of Foundation feel.
Seb rank	Thu Nov 17 23:06:06 2022 Sam: It needs some time to breath - it's far more a cold war spy novel of the slow, paranoid, cold blooded backstabber type - spy that came in form the cold. So it is intentionally slow as it is all very much about the internalised / psychological stuff going on - not event driven. So it needs a slower pace to work - but I would say the structure appears to be 4 3 episode mini arcs - they could probably have cut out the middle episode of each. jergul: I'm one episode in. Just started for all mankind, which is pretty awesome.
Habebe rank	Fri Nov 18 11:00:38 2022 Sounds good, I personally prefer a slower more in depth story. Fuck it, I'm buying Disney again. I havn't obi wan yet either.
Habebe rank	Fri Nov 18 11:01:59 2022 I usually just watch Mando, which is great, bit I also LOVE spaghetti western/westerns.
Hrothgar rank	Fri Nov 18 17:50:17 2022 My kids and I have watched most of Andor - probably get fully caught up this weekend - and it really is an excellent piece of work. Rogue 1 is the best post Disney Star Wars movie. And Andor is the best series. Easily. I'm not sure exactly how to describe it besides most of the other Star Wars stuff is "fun" to watch. Andor and Rogue 1 are actual "quality" to watch.
Hrothgar rank	Fri Nov 18 17:51:44 2022 Obi wan 80% was "fun/dumb" but ramps up the last couple of episodes. It's final episode hits hard, and almost makes the rest of it worth getting through lol.
Seb rank	Fri Nov 18 17:54:32 2022 Hrothgar: The last episode - the scene between Lutheran and Saw. The episode before - when Mon realises what she's going to need to do. They director really knows how to convey so much by what is not said.
Nimatzo rank	Sat Nov 19 13:09:02 2022 Me and Wife have been watching The Peripheral, it’s really good, has a good pacing and the plot resonates with the real world. Started Andor yesterday, yes it is a slow pace, but the ambience of the SW universe and potential is enough so early to keep watching. For all Mankind is good production, but the woke messaging is relentless and ultimately distracting.
patom rank	Sat Nov 19 13:20:43 2022 I really like the Bosch series on Amazon. So far they follow fairly close to the books.
Seb rank	Fri Nov 25 00:55:52 2022 Good season finale for andor
Habebe rank	Sun Dec 04 20:25:13 2022 Surprise surprise willow is now a rampant homosexual. Disney says it was "organic"
Rugian rank	Sun Dec 04 20:33:33 2022 Disney's internal writing teams are explicitly trying to put as much queer and SJW shit into their shows and movies as possible. Don't waste your time watching anything that studio puts out.
Habebe rank	Sun Dec 04 21:52:31 2022 Rugian, Apparently it was scrubbed for many international audiences.
Habebe rank	Sun Dec 04 21:59:48 2022 I wonder if my VPN will get me Saudi Disney?
Rugian rank	Sun Dec 04 23:51:47 2022 "Saudi Disney" would turn Willow into a blinged-out douchebag metrosexual who invites young white women to his Abu Dhabi high-rise condo, rapes them and then pays them to be silent. Still beats being a homo though.
Habebe rank	Mon Dec 05 02:44:57 2022 "Still beats being a homo though." Hahahaha, absolutely.
Habebe rank	Mon Dec 05 02:45:48 2022 I said that because apparently such an important part od theborganic story was totally scrubbed for Chinese and ME versions.
Seb rank	Thu Dec 08 15:07:25 2022 "Oh no, there is a gay person on my screen. Better censor it!" And your response is "why don't we do some of that censoring shit?"
Rugian rank	Thu Dec 08 18:41:03 2022 Who was proposing to censor anything? You are a bizarre creature Seb. When social media conducts mass censorship of political dissidents, that's just "a private company doing what it wants." But when end-use consumers make personal decisions on the media they consume, that's "censorship." I don't understand your mentality or worldview. At all
Seb rank	Thu Dec 08 19:09:10 2022 Rugian: Habebe is referring how Disney censored depiction of a hat relationship for Chinese and ME audiences. But the problem you guys have isn't with the censorship. It's worth the depiction of the relationship. Your attitude is default = straight white male, and why deviation from this must be justified by plot relevance.
Seb rank	Thu Dec 08 19:10:57 2022 And yes I'm deliberately using the word censorship in exactly the way you use it re social media. That's the point. I actually agree it's up to Disney what works for them for regional audience.
Dukhat rank	Mon Dec 19 03:38:52 2022 Fun discussion and then the incels come in with their SJW-baiting bullshit.
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