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Utopia Talk / Politics / iran civil war
Sam Adams
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Sun Nov 20 02:42:06 2022
Lets get this started!
jergul
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Sun Nov 20 03:22:00 2022
Can we do the US civil war first? I am primarily concerned with real time combat information.
murder
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Sun Nov 20 04:49:56 2022

One side is mostly unarmed but ...

Habebe
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Sun Nov 20 04:57:50 2022
See if we can have Saudis and Jews smuggle some weapons.

This is a war that can be won.
Habebe
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Sun Nov 20 04:57:50 2022
See if we can have Saudis and Jews smuggle some weapons.

This is a war that can be won.
Paramount
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Sun Nov 20 10:38:17 2022
So if there is a civil war in Iran and they get freedom and democracy, won’t there be an immense pressure on Saudi Barbaria to become a free and democratic state too? And Israel will no longer be able to say that they are only democracy in the Middle East.

Is this really what the Saudis and the Jews want?
Average Ameriacn
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Sun Nov 20 12:15:14 2022
Death to Iran!
Habebe
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Sun Nov 20 16:18:49 2022
Paramount, They want that more than Iran with nuclear ambitions.

It wouldn't be an instant democracy, it would have to be gradual, like Pinochet.

But this could change the dynamics of the US relations with SA. If wr can get oil from Iran, and lidt sanctions the Iranians would be much better off and the West is less dependant on SA.
Nimatzo
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Sun Nov 20 16:33:10 2022
Neither likely, nor desirable.
murder
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Sun Nov 20 17:17:23 2022

"If wr can get oil from Iran, and lidt sanctions ..."

We could do that now. We could have done it yesterday.

murder
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Sun Nov 20 17:17:43 2022

"If wr can get oil from Iran, and lidt sanctions ..."

We could do that now. We could have done it yesterday.

Habebe
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Sun Nov 20 17:27:17 2022
Murder, What purpose would that serve.
murder
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Sun Nov 20 17:32:13 2022

Aside from allowing Americans to do business with whoever the hell they like? Cheaper oil obviously.

And more leverage over the Saudis.

Habebe
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Sun Nov 20 17:39:06 2022
Its ironic you hate Israel so much you would actually benefit Russia/China to be anti Israel/SA.

Plus that opens a whole new can of worms since Iran will take that $ and fund Hezzbolla and you this etc.

Also attacking the oil fields we are protecting. Maybe* we could get them to donall oil deals in USD...IDK.

Dumb move all around, wait until new leadership, it might be a LONG time.
murder
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Sun Nov 20 18:00:25 2022

"Its ironic you hate Israel so much you would actually benefit Russia/China to be anti Israel/SA."

It doesn't have a damn thing to with Israel. I have the same position on North Korean sanctions and Venezuelan sanctions and Cuban sanctions.

murder
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Sun Nov 20 18:02:44 2022

I was also against sanctioning Russian oil and gas.

Forwyn
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Sun Nov 20 18:56:51 2022
"Can we do the US civil war first?"

I identify as a moderate rebel and would like a BGM-71 please.
Habebe
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Sun Nov 20 21:01:16 2022
Murder, I could be open to an approach that traded concessions for lifting sanctions. IDK...im on the fence.
murder
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Sun Nov 20 21:18:44 2022

Sanctions infringe the rights of US citizens.

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