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Sam Adams
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Mon Jul 24 21:15:11 2023
Lol these right wing conspiracy theories are going to be fucking nuts.

Rip
murder
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Mon Jul 24 21:18:49 2023

Want to click away, but I can't. WTF is this thread about?

tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 21:24:02 2023
a paddleboarder drowned near Obama's property on Martha's vineyard & the 911 call supposedly came from Obama's property

(thus Obama's gay lover by same level of evidence as Paul Pelosi's gay lover)
Sam Adams
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Mon Jul 24 21:26:38 2023
A 43 yo black male drowned while paddleboarding in marthas vinyard. 911 call came from one of obamas properties. These are the current facts. and there is some speculation the drowning was on an interior pond entirely owned by that estate.
murder
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Mon Jul 24 21:32:04 2023

OK ... but in right wing conspiracy circles this would be Big Mike's gay lover, or something like that.

Or maybe a 3rd wheel.

Sam Adams
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Mon Jul 24 21:35:29 2023
If my address for obamas house is correct there is no interior pond but a larger "great pond" with perhaps 30 other mansions on it. Unclear to me if there is any easy public access.
obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 21:53:58 2023
Chappaquidick, the 2023 version, this time with blacks and homosexuals.
tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 21:58:45 2023
it's Edgartown Great Pond, goes about a mile in either direction
tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 22:02:38 2023
an entry on it at 'paddling.com'

http://pad...rtown-great-pond-massachusetts
"
Accommodations:

The town landing is a sand area with parking for 20-30 cars. I have never seen it full, even in August. There are usually several quohoggers skiffs moored nearby, but the shallowness doesn't lend itself to bigger powerboats.
"

so yeah, could be anyone from anywhere
obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 22:15:45 2023
Much like a bag of cocaine found in the white house, the who's how's and why's of the connection between the Obama and this paddleboarder shall remain a mystery of the ages.
tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 22:16:40 2023
"BREAKING: BODY FOUND AT OBAMA'S MARTHA'S VINEYARD COMPOUND "
~ Jack Posobiec (one kingpin of fraudosphere, 2.2M Followers)

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Hannity:
"JUST IN: Body Found in Pond on Obama's Martha's Vineyard Estate, 911 Call Came from Ex-Prez's Property; Report"
http://han...from-ex-prezs-property-report/

yup... good 'reporting', Sean... (& his source is DailyMail which also claims pond 'on' his property)
tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 22:17:09 2023
and i see obaminated fully on board...
obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 22:20:13 2023
The sad thing is, if the Obamas were simply honest about baracks homosexuality/bisexuality this wouldn't have to be a cover up. But because it would hurt michelle obamas public image to be known as a beard for the first gay president the lie must go on. So we will know next to nothing and this poor black fairy will be buried with the rest of the political trash of the Democrat party.
obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 22:22:02 2023
But really, does anyone doubt that TW wouldn't be dripping pre cum for the next 72 hours straight if something as salacious as this was in anyway connected to trump?
obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 22:23:43 2023
Pretty sure if a toilet starts overflowing at Mar al Lago we will get 50+posts from tw about trump possibly trying to flush evidence.
murder
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Mon Jul 24 22:44:10 2023

So what are the odds that the dead guy is a famous person?

obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 22:46:50 2023
Unlikely. Probably a hanger on "nobody" but safe bet is he was loaded on illegal drugs. Not many sober minded people drown while paddleboarding in a pond.
murder
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Mon Jul 24 22:48:59 2023

They do if they can't swim. You'd be amazed at how many morons go in the water without being able to swim.

Then again you might not be amazed.

obaminated
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Mon Jul 24 22:50:13 2023
Okay, I'll give my real thoughts since I'm sure tw and murder will think I'm serious about the gay murder cover up shit.

Really he was probably zonked out from a party at the Obama residence when he went paddle boarding. It doesn't need to be nefarious. Just someone took drugs and got themselves killed doing a fairly safe activity. But because it is connected to the Obama's it'll become a big deal and I'm confident the drug stuff will get buried and I'm sure the Obamas will claim complete ignorance of everything.

It'll be a cover up in the sense that the real reasons and cause won't be made public. But it'll be covering up the death of a druggie. Not the death of obamas secret gay lover.
Sam Adams
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Mon Jul 24 23:15:05 2023
"so yeah, could be anyone from anywhere"

Good find on the public launch. A black man on MV and the 911 call originating from obamas mansion still makes it likely but not certain that it is an acquaintance of the obamas i think.
tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 23:53:47 2023
"something as salacious as this"

jesus christ dude... a guy drowned (NOT on his property)

"Really he was probably zonked out from a party at the Obama residence"

probably? i'll go with probably not...

-----------

a paddle boarder would be circulating large areas of the pond... you don't just paddle in circles in front of your supposed launch point (for which no indication was Obama's property)
tumbleweed
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Mon Jul 24 23:58:56 2023
ok, i should've googled first :p

"A man who was employed by former President Barack Obama is dead after he went missing while paddle boarding on Martha's Vineyard, according to the Massachusetts State Police."

still nothing "salacious", no indication gay lover, no indication murder
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 00:02:45 2023
Hey look everyone, tw just moved the goal posts. Something he swears he never does but constantly does.

Tw is like an android from westworld shown a picture from the "real" world.

Tw - doesn't look like anything to me.
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 00:09:37 2023
Tw is such a political hack that it has made him mentally retarded.

A guy goes missing while paddleboarding in Martha's vineyard. The authorities only know the paddleboarder went missing because the call came from the obamas residence in Martha's vineyard.

Tws logical conclusion?

"There is no reason to think the obamas are connected in any way."

tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 00:18:40 2023
there was no reason to think the Obama's -had- to be connected (or to report it happened "on" his property)

-------------

"
Massachusetts State Police said Campbell was employed by the former president and was visiting Martha’s Vineyard at the time of his passing. Barack and Michelle Obama were not present at the home at the time of the accident, MSP said.
"

"Today we join everyone who knew and loved Tafari – especially his wife Sherise and their twin boys, Xavier and Savin – in grieving the loss of a truly wonderful man."

http://www...idents-marthas-vineyard-estate
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 00:21:43 2023
Yes tw. It's normal for strangers to stay at your vacation home. It's normal to conclude a 911 call from a house would have zero connection to the missing person
Sam Adams
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Tue Jul 25 00:35:24 2023
Its obamas personal chef and possible gay lover. I think it would be fairly normal for a personal chef to be at a mansion by himself, so nothing unusual there.
Sam Adams
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Tue Jul 25 00:38:06 2023
Drownings are much more common amongst black people, so unclear if drugs or alcohol were involved or just normal bad swimming. Drowning was at 7pm.
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 00:49:45 2023
"It's normal for strangers to stay at your vacation home."

nothing at the time said he was staying at the vacation home

& Hannity's "Body Found in Pond on Obama's Martha's Vineyard Estate" certainly implies more than what was known (& remains bullshit)

i assumed he drowned near their property & that's why call came from the property, now he could've drowned anywhere & call from there because staying there... i guessed wrong
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 01:03:13 2023
... you idiot. They called to report him missing. Not that they found a drowned body. I can't tell if you are lying or literally can't remember what you read roughly 3 hours ago.
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 01:05:06 2023
(Meaning if you are calling to report someone is missing you are bound to know the person, so your claim that it was plausible the person had no connection to the house that filed the missing fucking person report is beyond retarded... the only question is if you were being purposely retarded or if your overwhelming hackish politics blinded you).
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 01:13:49 2023
nothing posted here specified it was a missing person call, you apparently read something i didn't
(i can't say i did huge research on this as didn't sound like anything to me, still doesn't)
murder
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Tue Jul 25 01:32:42 2023

Word is the chef was just about to reveal everything he knew about Biden's illegal dealings with Ukraine.

obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 01:36:17 2023
That bag of coke was planted by the chef in an attempt to get hunter thrown into prison. This paddleboarding story is a cover. The biden family put him on a rowboat and dealt with him like micheal dealt with fredo.
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 01:58:51 2023
some responses to the Posobiec tweet/(X?):


"You people act like you’ve never had someone die in 8 ft if water with secret security all over the place. Nothing to see here you conspiracy folks." (yeah, i'm sure USSS covers all 15 miles of shoreline of the 'pond')

"Just being honest here, this reminds me of that democrat Ed Buck who was caught injecting black male sex workers with lethal amounts of amphetamines and who then raped them as they overdosed and died. Exact same energy. I am convinced Obama has done the same here."

(& lots of Hillary & whistleblower suspicions)
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 02:38:11 2023
Well yeah, drowning in a pond is pretty difficult for a grown man to do.
Sam Adams
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Tue Jul 25 02:45:08 2023
This is a pretty big pond, and black adults are still pretty bad swimmers. Pretty plausible drowning.

Hannity is correct. He jumped the gun and assumed a little of course, though we all knew odds were good that he was correct.
kargen
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Tue Jul 25 02:47:30 2023
I think you guys are way off with the accusations this was President Obama's gay lover.

Michelle is the one with balls so probably Michelle's gay lover.
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 02:55:17 2023
I understand blacks don't commonly learn how to swim. But this guy was 45 and in pretty good shape from what pictures show. And he wasn't in the middle of the ocean or even a lake. It was a pond with no currents or stormy weather. Even if he falls off the board he can presumably bounce off the bottom to safety/back onto his board.

Realistically it would be unbelievable for this guy to drown in this fashion if he wasn't dealing with some other injury or some drug/alcohol in his system. I mean. Maybe he was playing tennis earlier or basketball and hit his head and thought nothing of it but he was actually dealing with a growing concussion.
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 02:59:38 2023
Nvm I came up with a plausible way he could've drowned without being previously injured or high. He falls off the board, doesn't know how to swim and begins to panic. He was still wearing clothes on the paddleboard because he is dumb and those clothes begin to soak up water. He attempts to take off his water logged shirt while bouncing off the bottom of the pond and the shirt gets stuck over his head, also trapping his arms in the process. He eventually gets too tired to keep bouncing off the bottom and essentially dies with the drench shirt covering his airways.

That is the only realistic way for it to happen.

But bear in mind even a water logged shirt can be taken off by most people. But I'm sure if the scenario happened 1000 times there would be like 5 people who ended up dying that way.
murder
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Tue Jul 25 03:35:50 2023

"Michelle is the one with balls so probably Michelle's gay lover."

Covered in the 5th post. :oP

kargen
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Tue Jul 25 03:46:54 2023
Didn't make the Big Mike leap.

obaminated he could have slipped and hit his head on the board becoming disoriented leading to him then drowning.

tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 04:16:34 2023
Hannity was not correct

headline
“Body Found in Pond on Obama's Martha's Vineyard Estate”

initial text in article
“According to a report from The Daily Mail, the body of a missing paddleboarder has been found on the property of the Obamas’ $12 million dollar Martha’s Vineyard estate.“


makes it sound like Obama abducted a paddleboarder and disposed of his body in a pond on his property or something

“pond” obviously gives impression some tiny body of water
and claiming it’s “on” his property further implies tiny

it’s a huge ‘pond’ and neither the body nor pond were “on” his property
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 04:37:52 2023
as to drowning in 8 ft... also, yesterday:

"
A 19-year-old from Ayer pulled from the water after he went under while swimming at Sandy Pond Beach in Ayer Saturday afternoon has died.

It happened at around 3:15 p.m. Police and firefighters were alerted by lifeguards about the unaccounted man.

A dive team was activated while lifeguards and emergency personnel began searching the water. Several minutes later, the swimmer was found in 6-8 feet of water.

The man was rushed to Nashoba Valley Medical Center and later brought to Lahey Hospital by helicopter. He was pronounced dead Sunday evening.
"
http://www...wimmer-pulled-from-water-dies/
Rugian
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Tue Jul 25 04:38:54 2023
"Big Mike"

Lmao

Also I'm just now checking the news. What happened here, did Barack Obama really just murder his AIDS-infested homosexual negro lover and drug dealer?
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 05:22:46 2023
Tw, there is a difference between a beach and a pond.
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 05:40:21 2023
it's also a "pond" & not on an ocean or river (& much smaller)
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 05:49:33 2023
alleged otters in Edgartown Great Pond (the 'crime' scene)... could be seals imo, that "pond" actually is along the ocean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wUJxu6PXY

it's not some small stagnant body of water w/ some lily pads and a frog
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 06:20:37 2023
According to this the average depth is 3 to 4 feet.

http://www...tidal%20range%20of%200.6%20ft.

That actually makes this waaaay much suspect.
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 06:32:39 2023
Waaaay much suspect... I really should proofread my posts. Quality control is nonexistent. Even in text messaging I don't bother to fix misspelling and rely entirely on the receiver to figure out what I'm saying.
Pillz
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Tue Jul 25 07:53:56 2023
Tw is the type of person who would drown in 4ft of water
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 17:45:40 2023
Uh oh, another assumption by tw is proven wrong, the obamas were home when their personal chef died in 4 feet of water.

Will this in any way effect his conclusion? Probably not. So why then did he even bother to argue that the 911 call from the Obama house didn't mean they knew the victim? Why then did he even bother to argue that the obamas probably weren't home?

Why even make any of those points at all if they ultimately don't matter to you?

But hey guys, remember, tw doesn't move goal posts at all.
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 18:29:13 2023
"another assumption by tw is proven wrong, the obamas were home when their personal chef died in 4 feet of water"

not an assumption, it's what police said (& you haven't shown where your conflicting information coming from)

"President and Mrs. Obama were not present at the residence at the time of the accident."
http://www...oarder-on-edgartown-great-pond

no idea why you're confused at what i was guessing... every post i made is consistent w/ believing the drowning was near the property & thus the call, rather than the other way around

& all the liars (actual media) saying the body was ON the property are way more wrong than me

i didn't move goalposts, i admitted wrong on that part, & i still see nothing beyond accident

boats go on that 'pond', there's obviously deep areas (& people do drown in shallow water anyway, i posted a drowning that happened the same day in same depth, also in a 'pond' (that likely had even calmer water)... & that guy actually was swimming, so presumably dressed as a swimmer)
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 18:37:34 2023
http://www...ard-paddle-boarding-death.html

The obamas were there. It makes sense cause this is their personal chef. So yeah. Logic and common sense once again prevails as opposed to tws desperate hackery
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 18:39:09 2023
Also, someone apparently was with him when he drowned but couldn't save him. So. Now we have a 45 year old male who seems healthy drowning in 4 feet of water with someone else watching him drown being unable to help.

This drowning of a gay lover thing went from like 2 percent chance to 10 percent over night.
Sam Adams
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Tue Jul 25 18:55:39 2023
Definitely bumps the odds of being intoxicated/drugged to fairly probable levels, but theres still a decent chance its just case number 870,000 of blacks being bad swimmers.
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 19:17:33 2023
i'm not going to guess whether drunk or not (& not a scandal if so)... i doubt drugs, but if there's cocaine i'm sure we'll hear how Obama is a drug dealer, supplying his chef, Hunter & Joe

being their chef gives him reason to be there w/o having to be a gay lover, & not like Obama found him at a truck stop & made him a "chef" as cover, he was a White House chef first

gay lover evidence seems pretty zero to me
(& Obama murdering that gay lover seems also heavily at zero)
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 23:03:56 2023
What does Michelle Obama do? She must be the laziest bitch in the US. Her kids went to private school. She had maids. She has a chef cook her husband meals. She doesn't have a job and hasn't had a job in like 20 years. What does this bitch do day to day? God damn and the left thinks she would be a good presidential candidate. Why? Cause she got pregnant from Barack Obama twice?
tumbleweed
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Tue Jul 25 23:19:03 2023
she's a lawyer so more qualified than the last guy (who has a lazier wife... & a servant who brings him diet cokes...)
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 23:30:40 2023
She worked at a firm and specialized in marketing law, I am not sure she was ever a practicing lawyer. Anyways.

Melania made her money before she married trump. She hustled her way from nothing and grabbed her bag along the way.

Michelle ain't done shit on her own.
obaminated
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Tue Jul 25 23:34:08 2023
Yeah so I asked chatgpt and Michelle worked as an assistant for a law firm for a few years. Then was an assistant to the mayor of Chicago. Then an assistant to student services for university at Chicago. She ain't done shit and yet she is worth 70 million. God damn.
obaminated
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Tue Aug 01 01:05:10 2023
http://www...-drowned-Marthas-Vineyard.html

Interesting. In a pond that averages 4 feet of water. Obamas chef was paddleboarding with a mysterious woman when he fell off the board and drowned in 8 feet of water.

murder
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Tue Aug 01 12:45:27 2023

Was it really a mysterious woman, or just an unidentified woman?

And are we sure it wasn't just Obama in a wig and bikini?

obaminated
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Tue Aug 01 16:57:17 2023
We know the woman ain't the man's wife. And she was there when he "drowned".
And they aren't saying her name for some reason.

Seems pretty mysterious to me.
Paramount
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Tue Aug 01 16:58:52 2023
Maybe because ”her” name is Steve.
pillz
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Wed Aug 02 13:48:28 2023
How does this involve the Russians?
murder
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Wed Aug 02 15:28:36 2023

The Russians have a secret program that trains otters to steal surf boards and paddle boards.

It seems cute and innocent enough, but it can turn deadly when they target political enemies who are poor swimmers.

Bigger otters can even keep their targets from surfacing after they force them into the water.

obaminated
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Thu Aug 03 20:02:04 2023
http://www...rack-Obamas-chef-cover-up.html

Weird. Police won't name the mysterious woman who witnessed the drowning. Police won't name who made the 911 call.

I wonder why.

tumbleweed
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Thu Aug 03 20:21:15 2023
yeah, why won't they publicly identify a member of Obama's secret service detail... it's super important for the public to know...

headline:
"Tafari Campbell's drowning death is deemed an accident but Massachusetts police are STILL withholding basic information about Barack Obama's personal chef under the guise of an 'ongoing investigation'"

yes, so suspicious that they are "STILL" doing what they always do...
obaminated
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Thu Aug 03 20:25:52 2023
Why is tw assuming the secret service has anything to do with this?

Fuck off tw, keep your cancerous retardation confined to your trump threads.
pillz
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Thu Aug 03 20:26:33 2023
How do Dems keep getting away with murder
tumbleweed
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Thu Aug 03 20:29:35 2023
"Why is tw assuming the secret service has anything to do with this?"

-your own- article:

"But authorities have refused to identify her or the 911 caller who is believed to be a member of Obama's Secret Service detail."

do you even read them or is your outrage all from clickbait headlines?

& the woman an Obama staffer... why should she be revealed either? pretty much guaranteed death threats for some cult reason
obaminated
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Thu Aug 03 20:31:07 2023
Tw. The media is speculating it is a secret service member. You fucking idiot.
tumbleweed
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Thu Aug 03 20:33:57 2023
-your- media
tumbleweed
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Thu Aug 03 20:34:59 2023
who are you expecting it to be?

you said it was missing person call... so his wife or secret service seem most obvious people to be
obaminated
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Thu Aug 03 20:41:29 2023
I don't know who it is. Maybe the chefs wife? That'd be the obvious choice. Maybe a friend staying there? Maybe the drug dealer who sold drugs to the chef? There is a reason they have an ongoing investigation for a drowning.

The obamas weren't home, I wouldn't assume secret service to be paddle boarding with the chef.
obaminated
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Thu Aug 03 20:47:17 2023
Or maybe... just maybe... there is a reason the police are hiding the identity of anyone involved and it isn't because they are afraid some lynchmob will show up.
obaminated
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Thu Aug 03 20:48:32 2023
Maybe... just maybe... the police are doing what is blatantly obvious, covering up for the obamas because the truth is either criminal or embarrassing.

Seriously tw, go fuck off back to your weird ass trump obsession threads.
Rugian
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Thu Aug 03 22:55:38 2023
Obama had a falling out with his homosexual drug dealer & lover after he witnessed Barack and Michelle raping a child, and he ordered another of his lovers (a transvestite dressed as a woman) to drown him in the river.
Forwyn
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Fri Aug 04 07:22:38 2023
"the left thinks she would be a good presidential candidate. Why? Cause she got pregnant from Barack Obama twice?"

She also pushed abysmal garbage on kids to eat, that was universally hated. Probably enriched some food industry friends though.
murder
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Fri Aug 04 12:50:26 2023

"God damn and the left thinks she would be a good presidential candidate. Why?"

If you voted for a guy who bankrupted a half dozen casinos ... shush!

tumbleweed
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Sun Aug 06 02:11:43 2023
Wild otter attack leads to woman being airlifted to hospital, 2 others treated for injuries

http://abc...-hospital-2/story?id=102009744
obaminated
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Sun Aug 06 02:40:00 2023
Um. Is tw actually pushing that river otters attacked and drowned this guy?
tumbleweed
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Sun Aug 06 04:00:07 2023
standard accidental drowning has been my guess from the start

but I’d now rank otter over Obama in the list of possibilities (unless you have an article of Obama attacking a water sportist)
obaminated
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Sun Aug 06 04:12:12 2023
So why are you spamming this thread with river otters attacking women in Montana?

It is probably a blessing to be so far gone so as to not realize that your brain does not work properly anymore.
tumbleweed
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Sun Aug 06 06:00:40 2023
sorry to introduce such a crazy notion into this thread of serious guesses

(though murder was first on the otters)
Pillz
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Sun Aug 06 06:33:21 2023
I think you are subconsciously manifesting your racism by comparing Obama to an animal to absolve him of culpability.

Black's are human beings even if we don't like it, tw
Paramount
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Sun Aug 06 22:48:23 2023
Obama frequently fantasized about gay sex to ex-girlfriend: report

Former President Barack Obama once wrote to an ex-girlfriend that he “fantasies about making love to men,” biographer David Garrow revealed in an interview on Wednesday.

In a letter to former girlfriend Alex McNear, Obama allegedly confessed that he had repeatedly fantasized about engaging with men in sexual relations, Garrow told Tablet. The letter he received from McNear had an entire paragraph redacted. When Garrow asked, she responded, "It’s about homosexuality."

Garrow said that around when his book Rising Star came out in 2017, McNear sold the originals, which ended up at Emory University. Garrow said that when Emory got the letters, they put out a press release stating "We’ve gotten these rare letters by Barrack Obama," but did not mention any paragraphs that were too sensitive.

The writer sent his friend to the Emory Archives, where he copied down by pencil the paragraph that was redacted, in which Garrow said "Barrack writes to Alex about how he repeatedly fantasizes about making love to men."

http://the...ay-sex-to-ex-girlfriend-report
obaminated
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Sun Aug 06 23:29:55 2023
As much as I'd love for it to be true... I question the that. I don't think any male, unless fully committed to being gay, is going to write to his girlfriend that he has gay fantasies. Unless within context barry is making a innuendo laden joke.
pillz
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Mon Aug 07 00:29:37 2023
You doubt Obamas commitment to being gay? How and why

Pretty common for fags to get married, especially those with political aspirations.
obaminated
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Mon Aug 07 00:40:06 2023
Sure, but why confess homosexual urges down on paper?
pillz
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Mon Aug 07 01:46:03 2023
Because hes a retard? Was writing to his gf, who tf knows what he was thinking. Veracity of the letters seems legit though
tumbleweed
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Mon Aug 07 02:16:42 2023
why is it redacted from McNear to Garrow?

and then Garrow sends a friend to copy original by hand & yet still no text given


apparently we have to send our own source to Emory University to get actual info...
obaminated
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Mon Aug 07 02:24:04 2023
It would be redacted for obvious reasons. But I still find it hard to believe someone else would not only tell his girlfriend he had homosexual fantasies but also write them down in a letter she would be able to hold onto.

Obama must be that stupid.
tumbleweed
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Mon Aug 07 03:15:07 2023
maybe he wrote “I wish I could sing with Merry & Pippen” as all we have is 3rd party characterization
obaminated
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Mon Aug 07 03:16:08 2023
Tw, fuck off, you got banned from this topic when you spammed a link about women in Montana being attacked by river otters.
Dukhat
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Mon Aug 07 08:15:29 2023
Still way less stupid than one of your average posts Mexican Tardnado.
Cherub Cow
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Tue Aug 08 08:21:38 2023
I was going to post this in TheChildren's latest fight thread (making fun of the black swimmer in his video), but this is more relevant here:

People were calling the Obama Chef a "proficient swimmer", but look at this garbage:
http://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1683631230754119680

• His kick is so inefficient that you can hear the concussions/booms of his kick from the surface. A good swim kick should barely splash through the surface (exceptions for sprinting), keeps your thighs together, and flutters through your feet with hip action, whereas inexperienced swimmers tend to bend their knees too much, causing drag, big splashes, booms, and lost energy.
• His arm action is awful and also wastes energy. He's trying to muscle-power through the entire stroke, whereas good technique is to relax your arm when it leaves the water, rotating the shoulder *while* rolling the torso (not just keeping yourself flat), and have your arm enter almost sideways, index-finger first (rather than just grabbing with flat palms and zero shoulder flexibility like he's doing).

You can also tell that he exhausted himself in a few strokes, requiring that he switch to his back not necessarily to demo his backstroke (which is also awful since he's short-stroking and has no power through the entire stroke) but to catch his breath.

People who think they can muscle through the water just exhaust themselves. His swim time in his Instagram clip is even sadder: 325 Yards in 34 minutes.
Whereas, most actual "proficient swimmers" (middling ones, no less) can easily swim a mile (1760 yards) in that same time. His slow time is probably because he was treating it like gym sets, wrongly thinking that "endurance" in swimming means muscling through for longer rather than relaxing and working on smoothness, coordination, and technique. If you have good technique, you can swim long distances with almost zero muscle endurance. Without technique, "benching 315" is irrelevant to swimming.

Look at TheChildren's video to see how quickly people exhaust themselves with this awful technique:
http://uto...hread=91954&time=1691446781240
Less than 20 seconds in the water, and he's done. He barely has the energy to pull himself out at the pier.


I don't know the full details of this drowning case, but a swimmer like this is doomed in the water if left on his own. This is why beginner swim classes don't just throw you in with crawlstroke technique but try to show you how to just float, tread water, have water splashed in your face, and get you to realize that staying calm and relaxed in the water is the best foundation for all subsequent swimming.

None of this undermines the point that Big Mike and Barry were probably in a sex-triangle with this guy ;)
murder
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Tue Aug 08 16:12:58 2023

"(though murder was first on the otters)"

Yes but mine were sea otters, which is much more likely. Sea otters are like 3 times the size of river otters, plus they are trained by Russia to take out their enemies.



obaminated
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Tue Aug 08 19:45:59 2023
Russia's sea otter brigade are not deployed on the eastern seaboard.

Also, yeah, I hadn't seen that video before. He is 100% water safe.

He had to have either been drugged or someone/something hit him hard enough to incapacitate him. He doesn't know how to breathe on his side, which isn't unusual for someone who didn't learn how to swim until later in life, but he knows how to kick and he knows how to roll over onto his back to catch his breath.

Point being, any argument that he fell into deep water and panicked because he wasn't comfortable in water is totally null.
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