Utopia Talk / Politics / GOP: 10 commandments in schools

murder rank	Wed Jun 19 22:32:58 2024 Louisiana classrooms now required by law to display the Ten Commandments Louisiana public schools are now required to display the Ten Commandments in all classrooms, after Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed the requirement into law Wednesday. House Bill 71, approved by state lawmakers last month, mandates that a poster-size display of the Ten Commandments with “large, easily readable font” be in every classroom at schools that receive state funding, from kindergarten through the university level. The legislation specifies the exact language that must be printed on the classroom displays and outlines that the text of the Ten Commandments must be the central focus of the poster or framed document. Legal challenges to the law are expected. Opponents of the bill argue that a state requiring a religious text in all classrooms would violate the establishment clause of the US Constitution, which says that Congress can “make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” In a joint statement prior to the governor’s approval of the measure, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom from Religion Foundation said that the bill was “unconstitutional” and that “many faith-based and civil-rights organizations oppose this measure because it violates students’ and families’ fundamental right to religious freedom.” “Politicians should not be forcing religious scripture on students. Our public schools are not Sunday schools, and students of all faiths – or no faith – should feel welcome in them,” the groups said. Supporters of the law, in defending the measure, leaned on the 2022 US Supreme Court decision in Kennedy v. Bremerton School District, which gave a high school football coach his job back after he was disciplined over a controversy involving prayer on the field. The Supreme Court ruled that the coach’s prayers amounted to private speech, protected by the First Amendment, and could not be restricted by the school district. The decision lowered the bar between church and state in an opinion that legal experts predicted would allow more religious expression in public spaces. At the time, the court clarified that a government entity does not necessarily violate the establishment clause by permitting religious expression in public. http://www...ms-ten-commandments/index.html
murder rank	Wed Jun 19 22:37:24 2024 Religious nuts will be the death of this nation if we don't exterminate them first.
obaminated rank	Wed Jun 19 23:17:54 2024 The judeo Christian values are the foundation of our constitution and Bill of rights. It makes a lot of sense for kids to understand the connection. Something murder was clearly never taught. Sad.
Rugian rank	Wed Jun 19 23:32:15 2024 Better this than the Pride Flag (which is practically mandatory at every institution now).
murder rank	Wed Jun 19 23:35:06 2024 "The judeo Christian values are the foundation of our constitution and Bill of rights. It makes a lot of sense for kids to understand the connection. Something murder was clearly never taught. Sad." There is fuck all connection between the 10 commandments and the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
tumbleweed rank	Thu Jun 20 04:22:19 2024 the groomers want to teach kids about adultery
obaminated rank	Thu Jun 20 05:17:50 2024 Oh murder. Public education failed you so badly.
obaminated rank	Thu Jun 20 05:18:16 2024 Well, public education and a complete lack of interest in personal studies.
tumbleweed rank	Thu Jun 20 06:33:19 2024 which of the 10 commandments do -you- think are in the constitution or bill of rights? also, list the non-judeo/christian nations where murder & theft are legal
kargen rank	Thu Jun 20 06:59:28 2024 this will bite them in the ass like it always does. Some Wiccan or Satanist is going to request posters significant to their religion be displayed and the schools will have no excuse not to. They can't make a solid case for the ten commandments being of more historical importance than other documents they would not want to see in school and they can't play the religious angle so they are screwing themselves once again with meaningless bullshit. Copies of the ten commandments hanging in classrooms isn't going to fix any problem that is happening is schools.
Cherub Cow rank	Thu Jun 20 07:21:17 2024 [obaminated]: "The judeo Christian values are the foundation of our constitution and Bill of rights" "Judeo" was mainly added during the post-WWII Bolshevik infiltration of the West. It's just Christian. But it is absolutely correct that Christianity was a moral foundation for these United States. We have to keep in mind that the nation was intended only to allow the franchise for Whites of European stock — these being near-exclusively Christian and more specifically Roman Catholic and Protestant. The expansion beyond Christianity is mainly due, again, to post-WWII subversion efforts. The founders never intended for Satanists to troll the Nativity scene. And the separation of Church and state was never meant to mean the total secularization of the nation — just a limiter on state power and another check on religious and state powers. It was meant largely to break the Church of England's totalitarian control over cultural spaces, since the English government at the time could effectively dictate local theology to move in accordance with the monarch. With a separation, sovereignty in religion could be held by an individual whose decision to act could then be governed neither by Church nor state but by conscience. (The government cannot command against religion, and the Church cannot command political action.) Thus, an individual could retain the conscience to act against both if needed. The gambit that Louisiana is taking here by posting the Commandments as historical rather than religious is to force the left to (accidentally) recognize that the Civil Rights Act and downstream protection of the LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA and DEI climate cult is acting as this same Church of England state-sponsored theology. The left is making its own noose with its arguments against the Commandments (e.g., that theology should not be in secular spaces). The climate cult is its own theology, so when the Satanist trolls start demanding access, the left will either have to concede that the Commandments can stay or that the LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA and BLM flags must be removed with them. It's basically a clever way of forcing the Louisiana Supreme Court and SCOTUS to determine whether or not Marxism is a religion, and there already exists an entire discourse ready to explain that it is. Imagine the utility of banning Marxism from state education.
tumbleweed rank	Thu Jun 20 08:18:52 2024 the ten commandments came 100% from the Jews (& their fairly tale)... apparently your moral foundation came from your enemy...
jergul rank	Thu Jun 20 09:29:44 2024 Islamo-judeo-christian. Fixed! Islam also used those 10 commandments as the holy bible is 2nd only to the Quaran as a religious source. The 10 are old testament of course, so are absolutely jewish.
Average Ameriacn rank	Thu Jun 20 11:51:03 2024 Murder why don't you move to Canada! This is what happens when you abandon Christianity: http://tor...women-for-people-with-a-uterus Primary school drops 'women' for 'people with a uterus'
Cherub Cow rank	Thu Jun 20 12:06:27 2024 [Tumblefag (pedophole sycophant, totalitarianism supporter)]: "the ten commandments came 100% from the Jews (& their fairly tale)... apparently your moral foundation came from your enemy..." That's cute, little bitch boy. Do I need to walk you through thousands of years of Christian adaptation and syncretism of other religions (e.g., the early Catholic and Lutheran adoption of slave morality, the Protestant and later Catholic rejection of the same, the Scofield infiltration of Evangelist dogma)? Do you think that maybe the people who practice a religion adapt it to their own preexisting customs while disregarding those customs which cannot apply or which apply differently within their own morality? Of course these things do not occur to you. You are a slavish leftist, and I already pointed out in the first UK election thread that leftists and mental weaklings are always able to deconstruct/destroy but never able to reassemble/build correctly truth and beauty: ------ "The issue is that sebguls will use fallacious reasoning and deceptive practices to prevent [the West] from being defined or to only define it in terms which allow its subversion. The true mark of a leftist is how she treats the Ship of Theseus thought experiment. A Westerner would replace damaged pieces of the ship to honor Theseus' vision, whereas a deranged leftist would make every possible effort to dissemble, subvert, and destroy the ship. Were the ship to be "re-made" by the leftist, it would be an abomination. You would see the image of Satan himself, and the leftist would declare, "Behold! The West!"" ( http://uto...hread=92844&time=1718628507864 ) ------ In other words, pretending through a category error that Christianity is itself "Judeo" simply for having a common building block (a micro observation) is to deny the change which occurs when micro elements are assembled into a whole (the macro complexity). And who, do you think, assembles the Ship of Theseus of Christianity in the West? I'll give you a hint: it is not the Jew.
Cherub Cow rank	Thu Jun 20 12:09:10 2024 *"[tumblefag ("[pedophile] sycophant"
patom rank	Thu Jun 20 12:18:32 2024 Just another log on the fire so that people can use religion as justification for slaughtering other people.
patom rank	Thu Jun 20 12:33:27 2024 Let's see, Which one of the commandments Don the Con will and has ignored. Past present future. 1-I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me. 2-You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. 3-You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. 4-Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore, the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 5-Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. 6-You shall not murder. 7-You shall not commit adultery. 8-You shall not steal. 9-You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. 10-You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. (Exodus 20:2-17) Trump believes he can kill people and be exempt from punishment. #7 seems sort of problematic for your boy Trump. #8 Trump stole from his own Charities. #9 LMFAO. #10 Really??? Trump even covets fucking his own daughter.
jergul rank	Thu Jun 20 16:55:03 2024 For clarification. Judaism->Catholism->Sunni Islam->Shia Islam->CoE->Protestantism. The last one what Nimcow thinks is the only true religion.
murder rank	Thu Jun 20 17:18:42 2024 "We have to keep in mind that the nation was intended only to allow the franchise for Whites of European stock — these being near-exclusively Christian and more specifically Roman Catholic and Protestant." I was today years old when I found out that Cherub Cow is Catholic.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Jun 20 17:26:28 2024 I fail to see whats wrong with trying to get the plebs to behave by reading them a fairy tale. At worst, its meaningless and costs nothing.
patom rank	Thu Jun 20 18:03:12 2024 Maybe they should have a banner at all of Trumps rallies.
murder rank	Thu Jun 20 18:11:29 2024 "I fail to see whats wrong with trying to get the plebs to behave by reading them a fairy tale." If thou shalt not kill, then the 2nd Amendment is contrary to God's commandments.
murder rank	Thu Jun 20 18:14:24 2024 "Let's see, Which one of the commandments Don the Con will and has ignored. Past present future." Trump is an anti-Christ, so it's no surprise that he has no use for the 10 commandments.
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Jun 21 11:14:31 2024 [patom (post-WWII boomer-delusion adherent)]: "Just another log on the fire so that people can use religion as justification for slaughtering other people" That's what the LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA DEI climate death cult represents, yes. The leftist death cult is a slave cult designed to kill billions of people in the name of "climate justice". It combines all of the death cults in the world (e.g., Malthusianism, climate cult, DEI cult) to produce a dichotomy between falsely named oppressor/oppressed to justify the mass death of WWIII. The natural consequence of current leftism is thus dysgenic slaughters at a global scale. [patom (post-WWII boomer-delusion adherent)]: "Let's see, Which one of the commandments Don the Con will and has ignored. Past present future." Oh here's a leftist living this meme again: "No I'm not a Christian and I have nothing but contempt for your backwards religious beliefs, so yeah, this argument wouldn't work on me, but maybe if I use it on you you'll do what I want." http://ifu...n-and-i-have-nothing-ylbOpBb69 The left frequently uses this disingenuous ploy. Despite being degenerate (which is a given for leftists), they will nevertheless attempt to hold right-wing leaders to a standard of critique which accepts only absolute perfection while dismissing that any perfection could even exist. Nothing pleases a leftist in a polyamorous/open/cuck relationship with five other degenerates who have all managed to pedo their surrogate children into being "trans" and "queer" than to see a right-wing figure who made some moral failing that drops the prestige of that figure — despite that drop not being close to the level of degeneracy that the leftist herself routinely lives. Biden, for instance, is an actual pedophile according to his own children and family, but because he is a leftist leader his degeneracy is expected and even ignored. For the leftist retards: one does not have to be without sin to make a space for the religious. You do not have to be perfect to attempt to paint perfection. The right makes space for excellence and may come up short whereas the left only makes space for degeneracy and still must loosen its own disgust reactions. [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: "If thou shalt not kill, then the 2nd Amendment is contrary to God's commandments." You realize that this is one of the most retarded possible takes on that, right? The Commandment is expressed regarding *murder*, not mere *killing* in the lukewarm sense of the word. It is not some accident of interpretation that Christianity isn't just a bunch of vegans and Buddhist-Lites relocating worms to avoid crushing them when they pour foundations. It is a lie of subversives that Christians must passively accept all harm and never defend itself. That same subversive interpretation is used with "love thy neighbor" to excuse a conqueror's "borderless" imperatives. In reality, various groups within Christianity are fully compatible with the 2nd Amendment since both contain the absolute and inviolable necessity of ultra-violence to preserve the individual sovereignty of the good. No death cult is compatible with this treatise, and anyone who uses the subversion of language to separate the sovereign from their weapons is part of that death cult. [CC]: "We have to keep in mind that the nation was intended only to allow the franchise for Whites of European stock — these being near-exclusively Christian and more specifically Roman Catholic and Protestant." [murder]: "I was today years old when I found out that Cherub Cow is Catholic." Putting aside your usual cowardly attempt to fish for an «ad hominem» vector, this is not about some forced conversion of the masses (i.e., addressing the presumption that one must be of these religions); this is about how sovereignty is meant to be maintained within these United States. The founders explicitly delineated between their branches of Christianity and the enslaver dogmas of Judaism, Lutheranism, Church of England, and Calvinism, since they had seen how those religions lead directly to compliant cowards, totalitarianism, and death cults. Catholicism and Protestantism among a European stock in the U.S. produced a people whose morality could escape the Master–slave dialectic. The founders further experimented with Christian Deism as a shield against the reality-denial of slave religions. Jefferson directly addressed this issue of slavery in the Declaration drafts (his absolute repulsion for the practice on a moral level, which was being imposed by the banker-owned Church of England), and George Washington's farewell address warned of the need to be vigilant against the enslavers. The morality of a nation is not merely some dogma or superstition left for the weak; it is meant to protect that nation's sovereignty. It is only through subversion of this noble morality that destroyers have found more and more foot-in-doors for further subversion. The current LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA climate death cult is the latest consequence for the boiling frog. It is a mirror of the Church of England totalitarian intrusion. This slave cult has become the religion of the left, and they pray to it and obey it so that they can be granted their annihilation. But this was not the religion of this nation — it already has religions based in life. That you cowards believe that such morality never even existed at the founding is proof of your adherence to the suicide pact of your cult.
jergul rank	Fri Jun 21 12:06:19 2024 What you are actually saying here is that atheism is the only escape from the "Master-slave dialectic" Anything else is just a morality substitute prone to authoritarian abuse. The morality of a nation is found codified in law and statute. For example the freedom of expression (that covers sexual identity). Your problem is one of absolutes. There are things I dont like that stem from the right of expression, but I will defend until death etc.
murder rank	Fri Jun 21 13:22:13 2024 "You realize that this is one of the most retarded possible takes on that, right? The Commandment is expressed regarding *murder*, not mere *killing* in the lukewarm sense of the word. It is not some accident of interpretation that Christianity isn't just a bunch of vegans and Buddhist-Lites relocating worms to avoid crushing them when they pour foundations. It is a lie of subversives that Christians must passively accept all harm and never defend itself. That same subversive interpretation is used with "love thy neighbor" to excuse a conqueror's "borderless" imperatives." Yeah ... because what does Jesus know anyway? It will always be a mystery why you people call yourselves "Christians" when you have absolutely no use for Christ.
patom rank	Fri Jun 21 13:54:03 2024 Come on murder, you know that Jesus is now spelled 'Don the Con'. Per Cavernous Cunt he can do no wrong. He is exempt from following the !0 Commandments. He likes the one where you aren't allowed to put anyone in front of the new God "Don the Con"
Rugian rank	Fri Jun 21 15:36:33 2024 Jergul "The morality of a nation is found codified in law and statute." Me, reading this from a country whose system of government is descended from hundreds of years' worth of common and natural law: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Jun 21 15:38:13 2024 Yeah, jergtard is just saying retarded stuff again. .. [CC]: "Putting aside your usual cowardly attempt to fish for an «ad hominem» vector" [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: "It will always be a mystery why you people call yourselves "Christians" when you have absolutely no use for Christ." You guys really are terrible at distinguishing established truths from hypotheticals. I hope you realize that an inability to make such a distinction is rooted in the general agnosia of having a low-IQ. seb similarly suffers from autistic koala syndrome. How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? [CC]: "That same subversive interpretation is used with "love thy neighbor" to excuse a conqueror's "borderless" imperatives."" [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: "Yeah ... because what does Jesus know anyway?" If you're pretending that anything I said in that paragraph contradicts Jesus, then you may have adopted the lies told to effect Christian pacifism. It works very well for the Bolshevik liars of the Regime to pretend that Christianity is merely a pacifist religion because the consequence of enforcing this lie is that the Regime can annihilate Christians while Christians are left appealing to a just-world fallacy ("[God will punish our enemies and help us once he sees how much we suffer! Trust the plan!]") Successfully enslaved religions often make such an error, with their subverters appealing to the pacifism within the religion in order to destroy that religion's own survival instincts. But this is merely more leftist logic of affirming nothingness and suicide. The Apostle Paul's subversion of Catholicism brought much of this death-cult logic, whereas Christ himself affirmed life: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy [the good]; I have come that [the good] may have life and have it to the full." Life-affirming religions avoid leftist death cult logic. Life comes with survival, and survival requires anti-determinism and choice (e.g., Christian free will). Death cults work within deterministic frameworks, nihilism, and resentment. And if you think it is sufficient to attack Christianity, know that atheism is not immune to these errors. In most recent elections, atheists were found largely voting for their own annihilation (e.g., 2020 election 87% Biden http://www...en-differ-sharply-by-religion/ ). Compare that to the Jewish vote, which was about 76% Biden ( http://www...20Opinion%20Research%20Center. ). And that 76% may not include the atheist Jews, who are about 22% of U.S. Jews and voted about 75% for Biden. In the atheist tradition, it was Jewish Bolsheviks who championed atheism as a means of infecting Western reason with slave morality. Today we see atheist Jews such as Sam Harris and Eric Weinstein pushing for atheism in the West and denying a Western ethnos while simultaneously pushing for absolute protection of their ethnos in Israel. The same was true in the 1600s, where Jewish atheist Spinoza attempted to infect the West with deterministic fallacies and materialism — errors made fun of by the ethnic European Jesuit atheist Diderot in the 1700s. Marx, another Jewish atheist, attempted this same task in his Marxism: designing Judaism's enslavement formula but in terms which would appear "secular" and could thus be debated in Enlightenment universities. In other words, the project of atheism has itself been largely infiltrated as a useful weapon of destruction in the West — even more useful even than the enslavement religions which corrupted them, likely because many atheists were convinced by arguments made by enslavers and were left reconstructing the wheel as they passed through nihilism to discover immoralism. Slave morality is not merely a project within religion but thrives in its absence as well. For every Diderot or Bakunin (anti-deterministic anti-enslavement atheists) there are 10,000 Spinozists corrupting the universities and working in propaganda.
jergul rank	Sat Jun 22 01:58:52 2024 Ruggy The pedigree of law and statute is somehow relevant? There is nothing exceptional about your system beyond it being an archaic bridge from kings by the grace of god to modern democracies Interesting in its day, but pretty much left by to road side by post 1850 democratic developments. Ultimately, we are just watching it burn out. 34 trillion is your 2nd mortgage (literally. It is in the ballpark of all private household debt). Nevermind unfunded pension liabilities.
tumbleweed rank	Sat Jun 22 04:52:31 2024 the little boy fraud approves: " I LOVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AND MANY OTHER PLACES, FOR THAT MATTER. READ IT — HOW CAN WE, AS A NATION, GO WRONG??? THIS MAY BE, IN FACT, THE FIRST MAJOR STEP IN THE REVIVAL OF RELIGION, WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, IN OUR COUNTRY. BRING BACK TTC!!! MAGA2024 " ...though he isn't too good at maintaining the lie that it isn't about religion
patom rank	Sat Jun 22 12:05:19 2024 He isn't very shy about breaking a few of them on a regular basis.
mexicantardo rank	Wed Jun 26 12:39:28 2024 "The judeo Christian values are the foundation of our constitution and Bill of rights." No. These values existed before christianity existed. It has always been described that the founder fathers, which in reality, were select few (the ones who were invoked guiding principles as you see for the basis of the day), were neither Xtians or Deists, but would be better described as theist rationalists. They rejected most of the fundamental doctrines of biblical Christianity, e.g. deity of Chris, Trinity, original sin, eternal punishment of sin, justification by faith, atoning work of christ, and inspiration of scripture. In fact, much of the infusion "christian principles, concept's" and the like are more modern and nouveau instilled upon by evangelicals, which pushed an agenda that some think of today that the US was "founded by christianity or christianity values" thus being a 'christian nation'. Similar to the concept of pushing the lost cause myth, which many has been debunked, but utilized by a movement to push an agenda to adhere to revisionism. So, for you to infer that someone's education is lacking, your simplistic statement lacking any context without looking at the complexities regarding the concept of religion, specifically citing only one, defines wherever you received your education or 'personal studies' only rehashes what has been known about you for years. You're still retarded.
Chinese Democracy rank	Wed Jun 26 12:46:50 2024 "Better this than the Pride Flag (which is practically mandatory at every institution now)." Way to subscribe to the chicken little concept that the sky is falling because you cling onto your radical conservation podcasts that people in every institution is doing this because it's mandated. Tell you what you blubbering, whiny vagina, you go and find policies of these institutions, memorandums, etc., and demonstrate how this is mandated. Or, you could just stay way from the hyperbolic fluff, and stay away from the radical conservation podcasts. I bet you subscribe to the thought process that its a widespread notions that litter boxes must be provided because someone thought they were a cat and demanded it. And then suddenly this ran and painted a big picture that this is common now. Anyways, continue being a little bitch that you are.
RugianLovesTheCock rank	Wed Jun 26 12:51:06 2024 For the record, I think he is happy that the pride flags are displayed.
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