Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump ass-assassination attempt II

tumbleweed rank	Sun Sep 15 22:57:30 2024 Trump was golfing (of course), shots 'in the vicinity' (unclear if guy got any shots off, or just secret service fired... SS firing seems confirmed) supposedly an AK-47 found FBI statement says 'appears assassinatino attempt' so could be... -fame hound (like last one) -Swiftie -cultist dispatched to distract & change news cycle -cultist for other reason -Iranian ... -a Trump hater (NOT what first one was, despite cult deciding it was or deep state hit job, or whatever)
tumbleweed rank	Sun Sep 15 23:05:01 2024 presser going on now (sounds like SS spotted & 'engaged' him & he ran off, witness spotted vehicle & reported it)
tumbleweed rank	Sun Sep 15 23:14:20 2024 a suspect in custody but no details
obaminated rank	Sun Sep 15 23:39:30 2024 Lol. You shot at the king? You best not miss. Liberals are radicalized to the point where killing trump seems like a logical option. Waiting for you to get caught tw. Also. #petslivesmatter Gotta love the media ignoring images of foreign blacks carrying geese. The best one was today where a black dude with a satchel was carrying a geese on the sidewalk and the medias narrative was "he hit it with his car and was going to take it to an animal hospital" Mother fucker didn't look like he owned a car. Mother fucker was carrying it by the neck. That geese was gonna be his dinner. But liberals, keep arguing that haitains understand cultural norms in Springfield Ohio.
mexicantardnado rank	Sun Sep 15 23:42:02 2024 Why isn't anything sticking! There random images found depicting what is being said! Why, why do they not think of the pets! -mtard
tumbleweed rank	Sun Sep 15 23:43:54 2024 geese aren't dogs, geese aren't cats white people eat geese too & yeah... "The Ohio Division of Wildlife tells TMZ that the Black man holding geese in the photo that went viral was actually picking up the geese after they were hit in a car accident." why has Trump nor Vance put up a SINGLE allegation about Haitians eating -pets- in Springfield...
mexicantardnado rank	Sun Sep 15 23:46:01 2024 No one ever picks up roadkill, unheard of, only the beverly hillbillies -mtard
IWantMYAmericaBACK rank	Sun Sep 15 23:49:49 2024 Now this sounds like a set up to draw sympathy.
tumbleweed rank	Sun Sep 15 23:54:39 2024 photo of shooter's location http://pbs...WUAAHtG1?format=png&name=small supposedly the 2 bags/backpacks contain ceramic plates & the other thing on the fence a go-pro camera then apparently the agent (who scout one course hole ahead) saw the gun barrel sticking out thru fence/bushes and fired on position
obaminated rank	Mon Sep 16 00:18:29 2024 "Fine, maybe they are taking animals from public parks! But I am certain they aren't taking animals! Despite but Springfield citizens say!"
obaminated rank	Mon Sep 16 00:20:06 2024 And yeah, no one picks up road kill. It's idiotic to assume a normal American would grab road kill. You call animal control or just ignore it. But sure. It's all innocent. Lol. As I said. More and more information will come out. This is a losing issue for liberals and the ultimate lulz will be worth it.
mexicantardnado rank	Mon Sep 16 00:24:42 2024 Obviously I never lived in the South or the country where this actually occurs and considered common. But, hey, I need to keep pushing the false narrative because Trump insists. -mtard
mexicantardnado rank	Mon Sep 16 00:26:21 2024 http://en....cks%20and%20uncouth%20persons. This can't be true! FAKE NEWS! -mtard
Rugian rank	Mon Sep 16 00:29:49 2024 It's honestly impressive that our presidential candidates go with as few attempts on their lives as is, given that this is a country of a third of a billion people with: - a political and media environment where each side constantly accuses the other of being an existential threat to the country - cable news and internet ideological bubbles that encourage extremism - relatively good access to modern firearms - high rates of mental illness - 18 million military-trained veterans - easy access to private vehicles and no internal security checkpoints Not to mention, we have porous external borders that allow basically any person from around the globe to enter the country. You'd think that Trump and Biden and Harris would be dodging sniper fire every other day.
mexicantardnado rank	Mon Sep 16 00:36:31 2024 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXVY8kttUtE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7HfUht_0C8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9VWg4KgaOE STOP IT FAKE FUCKING NEWS!!! No one eats Roadkill! -mtard
mexicantardnado rank	Mon Sep 16 00:41:56 2024 http://sta...-safer-for-people-and-animals/ why-eating-roadkill-makes-roads-safer-for-people-and-animals Fake...this fake! -mtard
mexicantardnado rank	Mon Sep 16 00:47:57 2024 "In the first two months of this year, Idahoans salvaged more than 300 animals from the side of the road, adding to the more than 5,000 animals retrieved since 2016." Fake, I am not seeing this! -mtard
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 00:48:16 2024 suspect apparently is Ryan Wesley Routh age 58 from North Carolina & also has lived in Hawaii (then tons of untrustworthy info on Twitter of course) ------------- "Despite [what] Springfield citizens say!" neither Trump nor Vance have posted a single Springfielder saying anything about their pets... neither have you... why does this not matter...
Byron rank	Mon Sep 16 00:54:55 2024 The suspect seems like a more extreme leftie in this case based upon information that's out there. Also, MT, are you really this dumb? Seriously? There is a whole bunch of people who eat roadkill in various parts of the country. And if the state from the Wildlife agency is confirming what has been said...this really shows how unbelievably sad yall are. Especially with gems like I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT! EAT YOUR PETS!!
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 01:08:55 2024 Cmon, we all know Trump really died last time and the Dems have been controlling an imposter posing as Trump ever since, who was first ordered by Pelosi to destroy Biden who she hates and then lose against Kamala in a fixed fight
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 01:13:22 2024 "The suspect seems like a more extreme leftie in this case based upon information that's out there" there's alleged posts saying he voted for Trump in 2016 & wanted a Vivek/Nikki Haley ticket this time but won't be easy to get real info off social media
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 01:22:04 2024 the Trump 2016 & vivek/haley stuff was from this account which isn't taken down yet (so might not be the right guy... or Elon just being Elon...) http://x.com/ryanrouth it does mention coming from Hawaii & he doesn't know how hashtags work so would sorta check w/ him being 58... :p anyway, the Trump tweet "@realDonaldTrump While you were my choice in 2106, I and the world hoped that president Trump would be different and better than the candidate, but we all were greatly disappointment and it seems you are getting worse and devolving; are you retarded; I will be glad when you gone"
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 01:23:07 2024 (^the date on that was 6/11/2020, nothing recent)
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 01:27:54 2024 theres also a mention of North Carolina so seems plausible it's the right guy... here's another Trump-related post: "@HillaryClinton Why are you not running with Joe Biden----come on, you are not my favorite, but we all must do our part to get rid of this idiot that is in the white house.......PLEASE.....do the world a favor." he also seems a Tulsi fan
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 01:42:43 2024 Was there an assassination attempt?
obaminated rank	Mon Sep 16 01:48:19 2024 Hahaha you guys are actually arguing that a dude would carry a geese which was hit by a car down the sidewalk. "It totally happens in the south " Photo is from Illinois. Lol.
obaminated rank	Mon Sep 16 01:50:27 2024 Can you imagine actually arguing for why people should eat road kill. Lol. Jesus christ. I know you are a loser due to you being in your mid to late 30s using a troll account but GOD DAMN is this not pathetic. I feel bad arguing with you because it seems like you need a win.
obaminated rank	Mon Sep 16 01:51:24 2024 I'll give you the win. It's Sunday and you need it a lot more than me.
mexicantardnado rank	Mon Sep 16 02:18:56 2024 I can't accept that fact that every time I make a claim and shown the contrary I refer back that the account is a troll or multi as a feeble attempt of a one-up, the reality is the only reason why this moniker of my original name is that all those years ago, the board viewed me then as a retard as they do now. -mtard
Byron rank	Mon Sep 16 02:32:23 2024 "Photo is from Illinois. Lol." This was a point made to counter your assertion that people don't eat roadkill. Geez, you are dense.
Byron rank	Mon Sep 16 02:38:10 2024 "Can you imagine actually arguing for why people should eat road kill." Can you actually imagine that you are so confident that people don't actually eat roadkill only to be shown otherwise? It's like, have you never learn about various experiences around the country, the world, did you stay in your little bubble of town you're entire life? Did you even graduate high school? Are you hot rod jr.?
Dukhat rank	Mon Sep 16 05:08:17 2024 Guy is an unhinged RFK-type voter. Just anti everything. Trump's goon supporters don't have anything to stand on again.
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 05:25:08 2024 "Was there an assassination attempt?" a believed imminent one maybe he'll go even nuttier if he can't enjoy golfing every day
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 06:56:20 2024 that Twitter account suspended now (& had same photo of him that the news using) so must've been right one he was big into supporting Ukraine but otherwise not a huge help as no posts were from this year & only a couple from last year... he must've moved to Facebook or elsewhere
Paramount rank	Mon Sep 16 07:53:07 2024 So the Democrats and the pro-Ukrainians/pro-Nato people has not given up yet. They really want to terrorize and kill people who happens to have a different opinion. There will be more attempts.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 11:51:40 2024 A ramaswamy and haley supporter, apparently. Yet another qanon con
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 12:11:49 2024 [williamthecoward (low-information NPC)]: "A ramaswamy and haley supporter, apparently. Yet another qanon con" You're a delusional retard. His Tweets about Ramaswamy were DNC instigator Tweets. His transparent goal was to comment in Ramaswamy's comments and fake support for a Ramaswamy/Haley ticket — something that *no* right-winger would want. This is the same disingenuous bile that tumblefag attempted, since anyone who can distinguish between uni-party sycophants and the actual right can tell you that Haley is of the uni-party and is wildly unpopular with the base. If this is too complicated for you, consider how you would label it if you found Tweets by J.D. Vance wherein he were to have told Harris that she should select a VP such as Manchin or Sinema. The shooter was DNC sycophant and tumblefag-esque retard. I listed this in the other thread: http://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1835452723929457000 • unconditional support for Ukraine • Has attempted to actively recruit Americans to fight in Ukraine • fixation with a leftist revolution • hatred of Trump and love of Bolshevik "democracy" (he tried to coin "Keep America Democratic and Free" (KADAF) for Harris and "Make Americans Slaves Again" (MAFA) for Trump) • Tweets favorably at the Bolshevik Jew Seth Rogen • Attempted (probably ironically) to get Vivek Ramaswamy to join NeoCon DNC asset Nikki Haley (pretty much only DNC instigators pretended that Haley was a legitimate candidate; see for example tumblefag) • calls for globalism ("wish for every human around the world to be happy and successful") • In June 2020 pretended that Trump was his 2016 choice but in the same Tweet called him "retarded" and said "I will be glad when you gone" (psychotic left-wing a55a55ination rhetoric); in May 2020 also Tweeted at Hillary Clinton that "we all must do our part to get rid of this idiot that is in the white house ... do the world a favor" • Lots of ACAB rhetoric • Support for George Floyd Insurrectionists • called for a Federal police force (the DNC's FBI-Lite plan; the "Defund" movement intentionally federalizing all local police training; Biden later pushed this via EOs in early 2021) • Supported Bernie, then supported Tulsi.. but, again, Tulsi support was only as a means of removing the rest of the GOP field (he lays out a scenario where exactly this happens: the rest of the field is eliminated for Tulsi; this is also when Tulsi was still DNC). This is, again, the left-wing disingenuous tactic of putting Regime sycophants in power by falsifying support in the opposition camp. No one on the right thinks of Tulsi as much more than a recent convert ("the left left me" type) who should not be trusted with power. So this is about where the left has to pretend that this shooter was just generally crazy as opposed to specifically left-wing crazy. Sorry, that will be incorrect as well. He was left-wing.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 12:29:33 2024 Interesting position to take -- that being pro-Ukraine, pro-taiwan, and anti-china is now exclusively left... lol
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 12:31:47 2024 The Secret Service and the Trump International Golf Club security team are a fucking clown show. Trump was there playing and some loon still managed to sneak in with a rifle. "In 2002, Routh was arrested after he was pulled over by police and allegedly put his hand on a firearm before barricading himself in a business, according to a Greensboro News & Record article that year that cited police. A law enforcement confirmed the arrest to CNN on Sunday."
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 12:38:47 2024 Apparently the golf trip was unplanned last minute change on the itinerary
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 12:48:32 2024 MAN WITH GUN BARRICADES SELF INSIDE BUSINESS FROM STAFF REPORTS Dec 16, 2002 An armed man was arrested Monday morning after barricading himself in a business during a three-hour standoff, police said. Ryan Routh, 36, was arrested without incident at 1 a.m. Monday at United Roofing, 1735 W. Lee St., Greensboro police said.Routh was pulled over about 10 p.m. Sunday during a traffic stop, police said. But he put his hand on a firearm and drove to United Roofing, where he remained barricaded inside, police said. Routh was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and possession of a weapon of mass destruction, referring to a fully automatic machine gun. He was also charged with resisting, delaying and obstructing a law enforcement officer and driving while license revoked. http://gre...70-5b08-a54e-46c87faf6cbe.html
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 12:49:05 2024 ^ that guy should not have been able to legally own another firearm ever.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 13:01:27 2024 [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "Interesting position to take -- that being pro-Ukraine, pro-taiwan, and anti-china is now exclusively left... lol" Notice that "Graves" had to use a rhetorical deception: expanding his list to avoid being such an obvious subversive (i.e., he added Taiwan and China, which were not mentioned at all). Because yes, the left *is* most largely the party of Ukraine sycophancy. Remember this? (Thomas Massie records Ukraine sycophancy; a mass of Democrats wave the party of a foreign nation, Ukraine, in chambers after passing a Ukraine spending bill most largely supported by Democrats, bringing $60 billion of United States dollars to a foreign nation) http://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1784542047875059825/ Not a single House Democrat opposed the bill — not even to vote "present". http://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024151 Q: And where do we suppose the left-wing echo chambers stand on Ukraine? A: They absolutely and unconditionally support it. Ukraine is part of left-wing cult dogma. You can certainly find stragglers on the right who will support it, but Ukraine is one of the cult's sacred cows. The cult implicitly knows that the Regime wants a war in Ukraine, and the cult therefore supports a war in Ukraine. Anything beyond that where they know more details is purely an exercise in compliance with this initial dogma (e.g., belief that Putin is the Russian Hitler, belief that Russia acted without warning, belief that no amount of spending is too much). You can even test this with an incredibly high success rate on Twitter. Pretty much anyone with a Ukraine flag in his or her bio is a leftist. It's so obvious that Graves had to deflect to Taiwan and China in desperate bed-shitting. We all know it. It's part of the "Russia, Russia, Russia" propaganda that the cult so easily accepts.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 13:15:43 2024 "Notice that "Graves" had to use a rhetorical deception: expanding his list to avoid being such an obvious subversive (i.e., he added Taiwan and China, which were not mentioned at all)." Notice how dumb cunt had a narrow point of view and didn't research enough about the background of the individual where other medium reports show the person of interest's social media posts where they had taken an array of many different positions which had included Taiwan and Chinese posts. Only to try and emboldened the position of "see see he isn't one of ours" where the reality is that it shouldn't be the focus at all. So again, interesting position that NOW pro-ukraine, pro-taiwan, and anti-chinese are exclusively leftist positions. Stupid magacunt, if you're going to share and x post with someone's own summation of what is and what what. At least dig a little deeper. Go back to your dog licking your crusted peanut butter vagina.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 13:33:06 2024 [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]:"Notice how dumb cunt had a narrow point of view and didn't research enough about the background of the individual where other medium reports show the person of interest's social media posts where they had taken an array of many different positions which had included Taiwan and Chinese posts. Only to try and emboldened the position of "see see he isn't one of ours" where the reality is that it shouldn't be the focus at all." Notice how graves is now further straw-manning in a weak and desperate move to project his mistakes upon me. The reality is that I used Ukraine sycophancy as an example of left-wing orthodoxy (as well as many other indisputable examples that graves the coward ignores). China and Taiwan — regardless of whether they were mentioned by this left-wing shooter — were not mentioned by *me* as evidence of left-wing dogma. graves is pretending that I made that argument, when I did not. graves is making a separate argument: a red herring fallacy and a straw man fallacy. He is attempting to recover his subversive rhetorical effort by pretending that he was talking about the shooter rather than my position, yet here, again, are his words: "Interesting position to take -- that being pro-Ukraine, pro-taiwan, and anti-china is now exclusively left... lol". I.e., this was his description of *me* — of *my* reckoning of left-wing positions, *not* of the shooter for having them. He had to change to the latter position when he was exposed as a subversive snake. Q: And to his fallacies, is it evidence exclusively of *right*-wing behavior to be pro-Taiwan and anti-China? A: No. The Regime demands dogma from the cult on crucial issues but gives the cult room to breath on peripheral issues which do not endanger the Regime. China and Taiwan are not fortified with cult dogma, hence, leftists can have some wiggle room to discuss them. Ukraine, however, allows little to no discourse beyond blind cult obedience. Hence, Ukraine is a great metric of left-wing dogma. There are many examples of this illogic in action. Tumblefag types believe via cult dogma that they must absolutely hate Trump. They believe via cult dogma the same of people such as Boebert and MTG, since the Regime produced major propaganda packages to oppose them before their reelections. They believe via cult dogma also that Manchin is "bad Democrat" and Cheney the war-monger is "good Republican". But what do they know of ESG? Still nothing. They are being kept in the early stages of the Celebration Parallax with ESG, but, if the Regime feels that ESG is threatened, tumblefag will suddenly know enough to know that he fully supports it. Similarly, when the Regime decides to open more proxy wars at West/BRICS+ borders, the cult will suddenly be familiar with those nations as well and support these proxy wars completely. These leftists are at their core cowards who respond only in the affirmative to Regime power. The only part of themselves that they have left is something that the Regime can take away from them the moment that the Regime needs compliance within that space. They are slaves.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 13:34:29 2024 Notice how CC is again making a long drawn out post because of their weakened position and attempt once again to paint a picture of "see see, he isn't one of ours". It's tiring, we get it, you're a magacunt. Now go find fido...
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 13:35:30 2024 "a red herring fallacy and a straw man fallacy" I find it ironic that your OP in this thread was exactly this... Go find Fido now...
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 13:37:25 2024 graves is a mental weakling — impotent and pathetic, as fits his ideology. He did not choose his ideology. He, being weak, was chosen by his ideology. The shooter was left-wing: The shooter was a DNC sycophant and a tumblefag-esque retard. This is indisputable. http://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1835452723929457000 • unconditional support for Ukraine • Has attempted to actively recruit Americans to fight in Ukraine • fixation with a leftist revolution • hatred of Trump and love of Bolshevik "democracy" (he tried to coin "Keep America Democratic and Free" (KADAF) for Harris and "Make Americans Slaves Again" (MAFA) for Trump) • Tweets favorably at the Bolshevik Jew Seth Rogen • Attempted (probably ironically) to get Vivek Ramaswamy to join NeoCon DNC asset Nikki Haley (pretty much only DNC instigators pretended that Haley was a legitimate candidate; see for example tumblefag) • calls for globalism ("wish for every human around the world to be happy and successful") • In June 2020 pretended that Trump was his 2016 choice but in the same Tweet called him "retarded" and said "I will be glad when you gone" (psychotic left-wing a55a55ination rhetoric); in May 2020 also Tweeted at Hillary Clinton that "we all must do our part to get rid of this idiot that is in the white house ... do the world a favor" • Lots of ACAB rhetoric • Support for George Floyd Insurrectionists • called for a Federal police force (the DNC's FBI-Lite plan; the "Defund" movement intentionally federalizing all local police training; Biden later pushed this via EOs in early 2021) • Supported Bernie, then supported Tulsi.. but, again, Tulsi support was only as a means of removing the rest of the GOP field (he lays out a scenario where exactly this happens: the rest of the field is eliminated for Tulsi; this is also when Tulsi was still DNC). This is, again, the left-wing disingenuous tactic of putting Regime sycophants in power by falsifying support in the opposition camp. No one on the right thinks of Tulsi as much more than a recent convert ("the left left me" type) who should not be trusted with power.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 13:38:56 2024 CC again, reposts the OP desperately trying to demonstrate "see see he isn't one of ours" The same a red herring fallacy and a straw man fallacy practice they were trying to be critical of. Sad. Fido is waiting.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 13:41:57 2024 Your cowardice convinces no one. You cannot refute those points, only lie and deflect. It is in your nature.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 13:48:51 2024 There are no points to refute when you are trying to ,incorrectly, argue that pro-ukraine, and pro-taiwan, and anti-chinese viewpoints are exclusively left winning, where there is ample of evidence that these positions are held by all sides. One could argue that being anti-china is exclusively right, but reality is isn't clear cut. Where is the lie btw? Are you claiming that being pro-ukraine, pro-taiwan, and anti-chinese are positions never held by the right? Do you see what's happening? The reality is you stupid magatrumpcuntdogdicklickingfucktwat, is that this person who attempted to go for Trump is some loon who shouldn't have had access to firearm, based upon ultra-conservative principles, which could be that he was an ultraright leaning individual because he loved guns. Or the fact that he did vote and supported Trump, or the fact that he took on positions that could be said all sides could agree on. It could be argued that he shared the same position of anti-police position because of the optic that they have too much power to violate civil rights and oppress the populace. Which, ironically enough, is the same position that ultra right wingers are taken as it pertains to law enforcement too. But, I digress, you want to share a post from an obscure X poster by the name of Billboard Chris, to somehow, someway prove a non-point. Good job magacunt!
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 14:01:00 2024 [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "But, I digress, you want to share a post from an obscure X poster by the name of Billboard Chris, to somehow, someway prove a non-point." Red herring fallacy and poisoning the well. The person who posted it is, in this case, totally irrelevant. This is not like Acyn the liar posting clips out of context for maximum subversion. I linked Billboard Chris entirely because he screenshotted every single Tweet that was posted by this left-wing shooter's Twitter account. [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "There are no points to refute when you are trying to ,incorrectly, argue that pro-ukraine, and pro-taiwan, and anti-chinese viewpoints are exclusively left winning," I said nothing of the sort about China and Taiwan. You are lying about my position. As I told tumblefag in multiple threads wherein I thoroughly embarrassed him, it may help you to quote what I actually said so that you respond directly to my actual position. Since you are a delusional cult member, this may help you to find reality rather than to merely continue propagating cult delusions. This left-wing shooter is very much like you. He, like you, acted on this exact cult ideology. The only difference between the two of you is that he was a sheep closer to the edge of the cliff and thus fell first. You believe you are safe because you feel that you are further from the edge, but the mass is still pushing you there to this left-wing shooter's same exact outcome.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 14:12:50 2024 CC, demonstrating that somehow and someway exuding their bravado makes them better on an internet forum, where no one gives a fuck. The person who posted that YOU SHARED does matter when it attempts to paint an obviously bias position that is so evident you share. While the content, YOU SHARED, is omitting many other variables which could make that position not so black and white. You wanted to share it here for a reason, now fucking own it when it's full of holes. Next point, you tried, in vain mind you, to say that Ukraine support is all left. You in fact dedicated a post in this very thread to refute my pointing out that not only is the dumb wannabe assassin supported Ukraine, but as well as Taiwan and held the position of being Anti-Chinese based upon the oppressive acts they have demonstrated for years now. Which, to my post of cleverly pointing out, that based on the summation of a random X person, YOU SHARED, left out that fact and now, it seemingly is being painted that being pro-ukraine, AND pro-taiwan, AND anti-chinese is exclusively left now. I think I heard a bark?
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 14:14:31 2024 3...2...1....CC will repost the X poster stuff again.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 14:30:57 2024 [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "but as well as Taiwan and held the position of being Anti-Chinese based upon the oppressive acts they have demonstrated for years now." False. You are again pretending that I offered China and Taiwan as examples of left-wing bias. I did not. You are lying again. Please quote me so that you can see that you are lying. (Stop lying, you liar.) [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "where no one gives a fuck" Now, having been intellectually demolished, you turn to the leftist's sense of futility and fatalism. This gives you an "out" for your pathetic motte-and-bailey fallacy ("[Here are my lies! And if my lies don't work, then this doesn't matter anyways! This is just some nothing forum anyways! Why can't I defend myself in this nothing forum?? Does that mean I am less than worthy of nothing?? :'( :( :'( :( :'(]"). You are too cowardly to stand behind your own weakly asserted positions and thus are already looking for the door. I, on the other hand, do not suffer from your crippling intellectual deficiencies and have no trouble persistently mocking you while simultaneously sticking to whatever minuscule steel-man arguments you may produce. [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "The person who posted that YOU SHARED does matter when it attempts to paint an obviously bias position that is so evident you share." False. Again, this is not like tumblefag posting Acyn Tweets wherein the person who posted the information (Acyn) produced a false quotation, a false narrative, an edited video, or an out-of-context moment. In this case, Billboard Chris posted the entire unedited list of Tweets by this left-wing cultist and would-be Trump a55a55in. His only words before introducing the information were "Here is a screen recording with all of attempted [a55a55in] @RyanRouth’s posts, in case his account gets deleted." Do you disagree that Ryan Routh is an "attempted [a55a55in]"? (He is an attempted a55a55in.) Do you disagree that it is a screen recording? (It is a screen recording.) Do you disagree that Routh's account was deleted and thus it was correct to record this information in advance? (It is deleted. This recording preserves the information.) Billboard Chris did not even offer his opinion at all within this post. Not at all. He didn't say that the shooter was left-wing even though the shooter is left-wing. He didn't even infer it. He just posted the entire unabridged Tweet history of this left-wing cultist. You, being a coward, are thus evading that this was indeed a left-wing cultist who is your ideological clone and behaved as you wish to behave. That is the essence of your deflections. You know that this left-wing cultist is no different from yourself. You know that your TDS — like tumblefag's own TDS — can only be satisfied by having sex with Trump or seeing him murdered for your entertainment. (Why do you suppose that the left-wing libido believed in a pee tape? Sex and death!) You refuse to acknowledge that this left-wing shooter was a left-wing shooter because such honesty would perhaps prevent the success of future left-wing cultists as they pursue your task. You would say anything to effect a future wherein you can take vicarious pleasure from the next left-wing cultist's attempt. But this left-wing cultist failed just as you have failed here. You are equals in that respect. Equally pathetic and impotent, trapped forever in a cell of your own making.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 14:34:00 2024 And here we have CC again with another long post to hide the fact that they were caught pushing a narrative that this person is only left-leaning, where it is not so simply black and white. I only pointed out that the information that was shared by Cece from another source. There's a meeting various details. That would matter as they are trying to push a biased narrative. The reality is that this person had many different viewpoints over the course of years, and it's some loon who attempted to take out trump.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 14:35:05 2024 *leaving out various details
Rugian rank	Mon Sep 16 15:01:54 2024 Randal Graves "There are no points to refute when you are trying to ,incorrectly, argue that... pro-taiwan, and anti-chinese viewpoints are exclusively left winning," Um...CC never once made that claim, and even explicitly denied it earlier in this thread. You can't accuse CC of things that literally didn't happen.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 15:10:38 2024 So, a gun nut, who "mocked Biden as "sleepy Joe", voted for Trump in 2016 and was “registered as an unaffiliated voter without a party until the Democratic primary in March of this year”. The problem with Trump scaring off the Never Trumper cons of the former GOP to vote Dem to stop Trump by any means is that I dont think the Dems want anyone from the GOP, since theyre all pathological.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 15:12:41 2024 The Cheney effect might not be all roses
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 15:21:57 2024 Rugiana, My introduction of those facts was to counter the bias narrative that is being pushed and that being pro-ukraine isn't exclusively left, while also pointing out that he was pro-taiwan and anti-chinese which isn't an exclusively left either as he made posts about that too and CC sharing a post to continue that narrative to say "see see he isn't one of ours" and then proceed to show that one, my introduction of those particulars must be a lie because it wasn't shown on the little X member's post and two a post by them to say that "see people who support Ukraine are left". So, yes Rugiana, when those points were brought up and called lies, it would lead to the fact that CC holds a position that it can't be the case because it would go against the perceive narrative that "see see he isn't one of ours" I'm arguing who doesn't matter honestly. Just pointing out that they held many different positions over the years and it's unfair to pick sides.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 15:22:43 2024 [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "The reality is that this person had many different viewpoints over the course of years, and it's some loon who attempted to take out trump." More lies, and just as I said, you're now pathetically tucking your tail between your legs and whimpering away as I said you would here: ------- [CC]: "So this is about where the left has to pretend that this shooter was just generally crazy as opposed to specifically left-wing crazy. Sorry, that will be incorrect as well. He was left-wing." ------- This left-wing cultist's positions were most largely Regime-approved left-wing cult positions. Here, again, is this left-wing cultist's Tweet at Hillary Clinton leading into the 2020 election: ------- 2020-05-31 "@HillaryClint Why are you not running with Joe Biden----come on, you are not my favorite, but we all must do our part to get rid of this idiot that is in the white house........PLEASE.....do the world a favor." ------- Even *if* we pretend that this left-wing cultist changed from being an ardent Trump support to a staunch anti-Trump psychopath (he didn't; even his early Tweets show left-wing support, with him — at best — trolling right-wing accounts with "advice" that would sabotage them totally), • why do we suppose he is so willing to call Trump a "retard" and talk about why Trump should absolutely not be in the White House in 2020? • Why, instead, would he support then-DNC candidates such as Tulsi? • Why, instead, would he support Hillary and Biden? • Why, instead, would he support Bernie? • Why, instead, would he support Nikki Haley (a DNC favorite for controlled opposition against Biden/Harris)? • Why, instead, did he vote in the DNC primary? • Why, instead, did he vote to progressive organization ActBlue (just as did previous Trump would-be a55a55in Crooks)? He is a leftist. The "best" case that leftists have to shrug responsibility here is pretending that he was telling the truth with this 2020 Tweet to Trump wherein he claims a 2016 Trump vote: ------- "While you were my choice in 2106, I and the world hoped that president Trump would be different and better than the candidate, but we all were greatly disappointment and it seems you are getting worse and devolving; are you retarded; I will be glad when you gone" ------- In reality, though, that Tweet seems to be more of his tactic of trolling right-wing Twitter by code-switching (the same thing he did with poisoned advice to Ramaswamy). And you said yourself that he seems crazy! Q: Who is most likely to be crazy? A: Leftists. Q: Who is most likely to have a criminal record (as he does)? A: Leftists. So, anyways, another left-wing cultist just tried to a55a55inate Trump. Moving on.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 15:26:35 2024 *"Why, instead, did he [donate] to progressive organization ActBlue (just as did previous Trump would-be a55a55in Crooks)?" Oh yeah, I forgot the most telling advice that he is a left-wing cultist: In addition to finding a sweeping imperative to stop Trump from entering the White House and supporting DNC candidates and positions for the last 4 years, he just tried to murder the GOP candidate and the object of his psychotic fixation. That's kind of a tell.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 16:03:16 2024 So now CC is claiming the loon didn't have various viewpoints over the years. See CC wants to have both ways. Both being left leaning only. And that in no way else could it be anyone else but left leaning people who have had various perspectives over the years. Poor, Poor CC.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 16:17:27 2024 Amendment: So, a gun nut, who "mocked Biden as "sleepy Joe", voted for Trump in 2016, supported a Ramaswamy and Haley ticket and was “registered as an unaffiliated voter without a party until the Democratic primary in March of this year”.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 16:56:53 2024 [Randal Graves (cowardly multi account)]: "So now CC is claiming the loon didn't have various viewpoints over the years." This is another straw man fallacy. Why must you lie? I'll tell you: it's because you're a leftist. As a leftist, your cowardice has you gravitate towards whatever power structure can guide your immoralism. In a noble society, you would be guided by the honor and prestige of the right-wing, whom you would recognize as directly contributing to your survival and to your own good fortunes. The right-wing holds the phalanx, and the left is encouraged to follow their example of greatness. But you have adopted Pareto's fox residue. In the leftist-guided society (the left owning so much of current society), cowards such as yourself have seized power through lies and deception, thus it is through lies and deception that you believe that you can sustain your power. This is incorrect. Your lies and deceit are merely a veil that drops to reveal that you are a fox standing before the lions you betrayed. You pride yourself only on ever-more complex lies to keep people from seeing that the waves are pulling the sand out from underneath the paper structures that you stole to displace and betray your own people with a mirage. The only power you have left is in the hands of the right-wing that still thinks that people like you can be saved, but the moment that the deceptions of your propaganda have at last been broken, the entire enterprise of your lies will have no paper to write your lies, no text to deceive, no language to speak. You will be seen by many exactly as you are — as I see you now — and you have only ever sculpted yourself into a dadaist ash tray. Lying is in your nature because you are weak. Truth is in mine because I am strong. You think you can keep lying to appease the people you think are in power, but they do not hold true power. They are also foxes. The left-wing cultist who attempted to a55a55inate Trump is just like you.
Paramount rank	Mon Sep 16 17:35:36 2024 Former FBI agent says there's worries over 'copycat' shooting attempts Former FBI special agent Clint Watts told NBC's "TODAY" show this morning that after yesterday's apparent attempt on Trump's life, there's a "worry really now of copycats." "We’re in this period that known as stochastic terrorism," he said. "Essentially, you know what the target's going to be but you don’t know who the attacker is going to be and you don’t have a lot of threat intelligence on him." Watts noted that the suspect in yesterday's case had a "scattered history, very checkered past" where his social media history showed a focus on Ukraine and talk about Taiwan. http://www...ttempt-live-updates-rcna171241 It likely won't happen as long as Genocide Joe is president because the Liberal extremists support this particular terrorism. But if the Republicans win they should consider to put a terrorist label on the pro-Ukrainians and on those who support pro-Ukrainian terrorism.
Paramount rank	Mon Sep 16 17:58:43 2024 Who helped to radicalize Ryan Routh? And has someone encouraged him or giving him an direct order to try to kill Trump? The Secret Service and the FBI needs to investigate and interrogate the Biden administration and in particular Anthony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Joe Biden, Jake Sullivan. Etc. They should also interrogate the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine, Zelenskyj, and NATO officials, like Jens Stollenberg among other. All clues must be investigated.
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 18:18:23 2024 "You can't accuse CC of things that literally didn't happen." This is America in 2024, right?
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 18:20:08 2024 It doesn't matter who is responsible, people trying to gun down Donald Trump is just a fact of life. We need to put this attempt behind us and move on to the next one.
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 18:28:38 2024 Also, if Trump doesn't want to get gunned down while playing golf at his own club, then maybe he should invest more in security. > One entrance and one exit for everyone. > Build a wall around the property. A big beautiful wall. A wall so high that Mexicans and assassins can't scale. > Maybe pay some security guards. > Create a buffer zone between the exterior fence and an interior fence to give security time to engage trespassers. > Invest in more cameras and motion sensors so the first sign of a gunman on the property isn't someone spotting the muzzle of an assault rifle. > Maybe invest in some guard dogs. Maybe he can put some of the ones that he rescued from the Haitians in Springfield to work.
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 18:30:27 2024 some on Twitter suggested Dems make a 'Save Donald Trump's Life Act' for banning assault rifles... & see if R's are willing to vote against it :p "Trump was there playing and some loon still managed to sneak in with a rifle." he was outside the chain-link fence & they DID catch him early so basically the system worked Trump chooses to try to be the center of attention & a massively divisive one at that (& an actual threat to democracy as already proven & he's doing all the same shit again)... he brings it on himself
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 18:36:11 2024 'pay some security guards, invest in cameras, dogs' Trump hates spending his money & is afraid of dogs he's even profiting off the attempts by getting more SS that he then charges up to $1200/night to stay at his properties + renting them golf carts & all the other shit
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 18:46:44 2024 Amendment II: So, a gun nut, who "mocked Biden as "sleepy Joe", voted for Trump in 2016, supported a Ramaswamy and Haley ticket, said that Tulsi Gabbard “will tirelessly negotiate peace deals in Syria, Afghanistan, and all turmoil zones”, and was “registered as an unaffiliated voter without a party until the Democratic primary in March of this year”.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 19:12:45 2024 CC so mad with their projection in every post. They probably should have let Fido have their way...
tumbleweed rank	Mon Sep 16 19:25:52 2024 Trump is blaming Biden/Kamala rhetoric (of course) for both attempts has been clearly false for the first guy for quite some time & this guy has found Trump to be "retarded" & an "idiot" ever since witnessing Trump's 'presidency' which he voted for so probably no bearing on the rhetoric either (also 'threat to democracy' is just true... he -already- proved it...) Trump definitely should know some of this info, Trump choosing to lie as he ALWAYS FUCKING DOES
Paramount rank	Mon Sep 16 19:41:09 2024 Someone must have tipped the assassin off that Trump was there at the particular time. Unless Trump’s routines are known to the public.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 19:52:07 2024 [williamthebitchfag]: "So, a gun nut, who "mocked Biden as "sleepy Joe", voted for Trump in 2016, supported a Ramaswamy and Haley ticket, said that Tulsi Gabbard “will tirelessly negotiate peace deals in Syria, Afghanistan, and all turmoil zones”, and was “registered as an unaffiliated voter without a party until the Democratic primary in March of this year”." williamthecoward trying to add to his little shitpost but is running into his lies at every step. Let's break it down: • "So, a gun nut" False. No evidence of firearms affinity beyond wanting to fight in the DNC's proxy war and wanting to kill a GOP president. His own son says that he didn't even know that his father *had* a firearm until this. • "who "mocked Biden as "sleepy Joe"" So you don't think Biden has dementia? Also note his code-switching when trying to troll right-wing accounts. • "voted for Trump in 2016" He claimed this under a Tweet wherein he was trolling Trump. He pretended to be a Trump supporter so he could call Trump a retard. • "supported a Ramaswamy and Haley ticket" Yes, this is a left-wing sabotage position. Check with faggots such as tumbletard. tumbletard wanted a Haley ticket because it sabotages the GOP. This left-wing cultist was behaving similarly. Pretty much anyone supporting Haley is a Regime sycophant. • "said that Tulsi Gabbard" Yes, he supported Tulsi when Tulsi was a Democrat. Check the dates, faggot. • "registered as an unaffiliated voter without a party until the Democratic primary in March of this year" Weird how this "unaffiliated" voter votes Democrat and donates to progressive political PACs. It's incomprehensible, really. (You fucking idiot.) So, anyways, the DNC successfully provoked *another* a55a55ination attempt against their chief political rival. Both Harris and Biden as well as a large portion of the DNC and Regime media openly provoked this a55a55ination attempt. Their rhetoric directly inspired these attacks, and their delusional belief in "our democracy" is a direct line into their Marxist/Bolshevik belief systems. Pond scum such as tumblefag who say things such as "also 'threat to democracy' is just true" are admitting that they fully support this overtly Bolshevik phrase. "Our democracy" is *directly* from Soviet Bolshevism, you fucking traitor. Self-deport out of the West. Again: In addition to finding a sweeping imperative to stop Trump from entering the White House and supporting DNC candidates and DNC positions for the last 4 years, he just tried to murder the GOP candidate and the object of his psychotic fixation. That's kind of a tell. He is a left-wing psychopath just as are tumblefag, murder, and graves, so when you speak to people such as tumblefag, murder, and graves, you are merely seeing this same shooter lie to you so that he can avoid taking responsibility for his ideology and his murderous and cultist behavior. These people have no sense of shame, remorse, or repentance and will indeed try this again. Trump is still in danger from the left-wing slave/death cult.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 20:11:31 2024 "Routh has a Biden–Harris sticker on a white pickup truck sitting in the driveway of his Hawaii home" http://www...oter-Ryan-Wesley-neighbor.html Wow. No way to know his motives. "He is a registered Democrat and donated at least 19 times between September 2019 and March 2020 to the Democratic political action committee ActBlue, Federal Election Commission filings revealed." Wow. What could it mean?
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 20:26:02 2024 I have no idea where the guy lives, but the motorcade is a dead giveaway.
murder rank	Mon Sep 16 20:30:23 2024 I'd have no problem claiming him ... but I prefer gunmen who neutralize their target.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Sep 16 20:44:38 2024 As demonstrated by tumblefag's banality of evil comment ("(also 'threat to democracy' is just true... he -already- proved it...)"): -------- "*This* is what Time means by "his political ideology is unknown" To them, "murderous rage" is simply the default feeling all "decent people" have towards Trump" http://x.com/CovfefeAnon/status/1835748508894437810 -------- In other words, the left has been so psychotically conditioned with this "our democracy" propaganda that murdering Trump is as natural as breathing. It's simply the consequence of their ideology. They don't deny it. They do not pretend they want something else. murder is outright telling us that he wants to murder Trump. tumblefag is doing the same. Believe them.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Sep 16 20:54:28 2024 So, that classic question that this qanon libertarian couldnt let go of was probably: "If you could go back in time and kill Hitler before he wrecked the world, would you?"
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 21:57:17 2024 Same repeated rhetoric by CC. CC is torn up about this that both previous attempts have been leaned a certain away at some point in their lives. Just tears CC apart.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 22:09:13 2024 "So you don't think Biden has dementia?" Do you have proof he has dementia?
obaminated rank	Mon Sep 16 23:13:51 2024 So cherub never said anything about Taiwan or China but that faggot graves kept arguing about it. This is why he or she uses multi accounts. He is an idiot and needs new accounts that aren't tarnished by mistakes. Undoubtedly he will create or use a new one after this.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 23:27:52 2024 Wow, everyone of you are just fucking dumb. Look at my original post and look at the first response from stupidcuntmagatwat CC. My point about China and Taiwan was pointing out the irony that in CC's post being pro-Ukraine is a leftist position. The would be shooter, actually has made posts about being not only pro-ukraine, but being pro-taiwan, and anti-china just some details omitted because of the narrative that CC wanted to push, very bias one at that. And I was making a commentary about that particular matter that it really isn't an exclusive left supporting notion. More of a bi-partisan support. It was then CC going down the rabbit whole to prove in every which way that being pro-ukraine is all about left and my interject about taiwan and china views, expressed by the would be shoot is somehow a lie. CC whines, posts post post, dribble, nonsense. I make fun, I laugh, still point out their dumbassery shit. And I know MT, you're such a me too guy that wants to jump in on any bandwagon you can, but you really have no room to talk with your constant push of dumb trump shit like pets. So sit your dumbass down. Back to the point, CC is a dumbass cunt who is desperately trying every which way to say that he is all leftist, when he has a checkered past of supporting different candidates of political affiliations. The whole Taiwan and China thing, was to point out the he had, what can be consider, right leaning thoughts too. But all of you are too fucking stupid to piece that together...I mean, fucking dumb. It's like you need things to be black and white to figure things out, but any complexity to it, my god, you fucking go nuts about it and can't piece shit together. Talk about some fucking diminishing cognitive abilities.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 23:28:47 2024 One more thing, MT, how many times are you going to be wrong about any subject matter you participate in? The pets and roadkill I see went well for you.
Randal Graves rank	Mon Sep 16 23:31:22 2024 Like this is hot rod level shit of cognitive abilities.
obaminated rank	Tue Sep 17 01:46:42 2024 Hey look, graves had a meltdown over being wrong.
Randal Graves rank	Tue Sep 17 02:13:03 2024 Hey look MT still trying to be relevant.
TheChildren rank	Tue Sep 17 07:37:16 2024 so anotha crazed yankoid who was heavily influenced and propafundized by ur fakenews networks constantly blastin how "evil da rest of da world is" and how "ur da good guys comin 2 protect da world" look at how crazed and confused ur propafunda networks made ur peoples.
murder rank	Tue Sep 17 12:13:39 2024 Republicans and the corporate media are blowing this all out of proportion. Routh was just a tourist who was bird watching outside Trump's golf course. He ran because soon trigger happy Secret Service agent started shooting at him.
Cherub Cow rank	Wed Sep 18 10:01:49 2024 [graves (cowardly mental weakling)]: "Look at my original post and look at the first response from stupidcuntmagatwat CC." Yes, your original argument is different than your follow-up. I already pointed this out: you made an egregious and stupid lie, tried to recover, and are now lying further in hopes that you can obfuscate your former lies with more lies. This is because you are a liar and a coward. You are also illiterate. This is demonstrable because I already explained how even the steel-man argument of your Taiwan/China red herring is also stupid and false. You don't even know that I addressed that argument because you cannot read. So you are an illiterate and cowardly liar. [graves (cowardly mental weakling)]: "when he has a checkered past of supporting different candidates of political affiliations." This is false because you are a liar who traffics in lies. The left-wing cultist who attempted to a55a55inate Trump on behalf of DNC-Bolshevism has persistently supported left-leaning candidates. The meager evidence of right-wing support is his claim that he voted for Trump in 2016 — which he undermines in the same Tweet by calling Trump a "retard" (i.e., the language of his post is clearly false-flagging that he was a Trump supporter so that he can trick readers into believing that Trump supporters are turning on Trump). Aside from this one Tweet, there does not seem to be any evidence at all that he has specifically right-wing positions. At *best* he was left of center, and that's *if* you use your retarded imagination to presume that he was some kind of "Extreme MAGA Republican" until the very moment he started posting on Twitter in public view. If that is your premise, it means that you're mind-reading and falsifying his history. His own son said that he hates Trump, and there seems no evidence at this point that it was ever otherwise. So more accurately, he is a tumbletard-esque far-left retard cultist who has been thoroughly propagandized by Regime media into supporting all of Regime media's central dogmas. He is just like you and tumblefag, and he did exactly what you or tumblefag would have done if you were not even more pathetic weaklings than he was. Remember that. Remember that this left-wing cultist was stronger than you are and thus able to act on his left-wing psychosis, but he still failed because it is in a left-winger's nature to fail. You are too weak even to try. That is who you are. I hope that the rest of the attempts are by people as weak as yourself. Your handlers know how weak you are, which is why they have to use you as disposable collectivists. Wave after wave of you will jump on this grenade for "our democracy", and, being a collectivist, you do not value your life enough to see an issue in doing so.
Randal Graves rank	Wed Sep 18 12:01:42 2024 Ah yes another long post full of ramblings to twist what was said to emphasize a point because it takes away the premise that your boy there may not have the point blank background of being just 'a lefty after all. Full of projection in like al the rest of your posts, you continue to try every little way to dissect words and phrases in manipulation. *woof*
Randal Graves rank	Wed Sep 18 12:04:22 2024 "This is false because you are a liar who traffics in lies." Lol. Has support various candidates. Been demonstrated by own admission or what has been discovered during investigation thud far. Cunt Cunt, calls it lies. Break open that jar of peanut butter, K9 skank.
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