Utopia Talk / Politics / The UK's most popular baby name

Rugian Member	Thu Dec 05 09:44:22 Muhammad has become the most popular baby name for boys in the UK for the first time, new data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) has revealed. The name has overtaken Noah, which came in second. Oliver was third in the 2023 rankings. Olivia remained the most popular name for baby girls for the eighth year in a row, with Amelia and Isla the second and third most popular for girls. Each year, the ONS analyses the latest baby name data, revealing the most popular – and unpopular – names in the UK. In 2023, there were 4,661 Muhammads born across England and Wales, up from 4,177 in 2022. In contrast, only 4,382 Noahs were born in 2023, down from 4,586 the previous year. First time single spelling tops list In previous years, combining all the different spellings of Muhammad would have made it the top name, but this is the first year that just one spelling of the name has topped the list. This year, the next most common variant of the Arabic name – Mohammed – is also in the top 50, coming in at the 28th most popular name in 2023, down from 27th place the year before. An analysis by The Telegraph found that two of the fastest-growing boys’ names in 2023 were Arabic in origin: Ayman, up 47 per cent, and Hasan, up 43 per cent. Among girls, Arabic names also saw significant growth, with Aizal and its variant Ayzal rising 479 per cent and 183 per cent, respectively. Inaya, meaning “care” or “protection” in Arabic, increased by 48 per cent. But the boys’ name that underwent the biggest increase in popularity was Cassian. The number of babies with this name, which is shared with a character in the romantic fiction series A Court of Thorns and Roses by the American author Sarah J Maas, went up by 79 per cent in the past year. The series became a viral sensation after gaining popularity on TikTok. http://www...as-top-baby-boy-name-for-boys/
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 09:51:04 Lmfao.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 10:17:59 I wonder how "Mateo" ranks in the US.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 10:34:55 Mexicans are about 7 orders of magnitude safer than muslims.
Seb Member	Thu Dec 05 13:44:24 If like 75% of muslims boys are called some variant of Mohammad and in non Muslims the most popular boys name gets under 5% share it's a no brainer really isn't it.
Seb Member	Thu Dec 05 13:45:58 How many white Brits do you know called fucking Noah?
murder Member	Thu Dec 05 13:48:32 Never mind any of that ... wtf is with the Oliver/Olivia thing?
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 14:19:45 "like 75% of muslims boys" If you were sane... 0.75*0=0
Seb Member	Sat Dec 07 02:16:54 Why is it sane to purge society of one religious group?
kargen Member	Sat Dec 07 03:20:14 preemptive purge?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Dec 07 05:29:52 This is more evidence of how uncreative and cultish Muslims are and what a grip that religion has. Even in a relatively small population, they manage to get to the number one spot.
Paramount Member	Sat Dec 07 06:42:31 As Jewish year comes to a close: Muhammad ranks as overall most popular name for boys, David is number one for Jewish boys and Abigail remains in first place for girls http://www.ynetnews.com/article/r1szsihan
Seb Member	Sat Dec 07 10:19:31 Kargen: Is that sane though?
jergul large member	Sat Dec 07 10:45:21 Well, we better hope Alawites are not considered Muslims. Posters here: "Yay look at chaos in the ME...but...but..why are people fleeing chaos in the ME?...I dont understand"
Sam Adams Member	Sat Dec 07 12:47:31 "Why is it sane to purge society of one religious group?" Same reason you lock up criminals or kill cancer cells.
Seb Member	Sat Dec 07 14:21:34 Criminalising an entire religion isn't sane.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Dec 08 04:23:41 Im pretty sure if we could get stats of all the organizing banned in the UK, then you stack them according to religion, Islam wins. And then it is just a matter of putting two and two together. Which is easy that it must be complicated, does 2+2 really equals 4? Can we really speak of equal? When are 2 quantities of anything material and physical truly mathematically equal? Good luck proving to me that there are just as many quarks in this pen as this other one! On and on the seb will go.
Seb Member	Sun Dec 08 05:26:54 Nim: Probably in that there are loads of micro groups with a handful of members. If you go by number of members it's far right groups and sectarian groups. Obviously we need to deport the Irish right?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Dec 08 06:12:00 No you would go by per capita of course and "right wing" is not a religion. Is Irish a religion? :-) Off to a great start seb, showing us how well you understand words and concepts. Not at all confused as everyone keeps saying.
Seb Member	Sun Dec 08 06:57:00 Nim: As if the issue of Irish republicanism and nationalism wasn't also one of Catholic and Protestant identity. If membership of prohibited groups per capita, still probably domestic terrorism.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Dec 08 09:34:34 Identity, not religious ideology. A tired old horse beaten to death twice. There is literally no similarities beyond the very superficial existence of religion in both places, between the NI conflict and the Islam that gives you Sharia, Jihad and caliphate concepts. The NI conflict was largely about class, politics and identity, not the nature of the trinity and the transubstantiation of christ or implementing the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. No.
Seb Member	Sun Dec 08 11:26:10 Nim: I see, and for you, organised violence that arises from religion as part of a cultural identity is fundamentally different from organised violence that arises from adhering to an interpretation that your religion requires violence? Sufficiently important that we should bad anyone who subscribes to that religion who does not share that interpretation of it; but that we shouldn't blanket ban folks who share cultural identity with folks that believe that cultural identity requires violent struggle to achieve statehood? Seems a bit arbitrary Nim.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Dec 08 11:34:22 The topic was banning a specific religion, not “what are the kinds of organization you could ban”. Issues grounded in politics, identity and simple class dynamics have earthly solutions, we can talk about them and solve them, at least in theory. There is no solution to a terrorist ideology revealed by a diety 1400 years ago that tell its members to implement sharia, cut the hands off thieves, throw gays off roofs etc and so on, the list is long. And further, tells its members this list of things is the speech of god, eternal unchanged and that those that try to change it or innovate it should be PUT TO DEATH like those that try to leave the religion. The only solution is to ban this ideology and physically beat it out of people, give them Christianity as a substitute.
Seb Member	Sun Dec 08 12:23:46 Nim: I think the principle is a little broader than that, Autist.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Dec 09 01:36:11 Nobody is disputing that other characteristics can not be reasons to ban organization, that is why I said earthly grievances have earthly solutions, in theory. However, the specific question was religion. You then confusedly started to bring in politics and identity (as I knew you would) to say, hey look this other situation was (superficially) about religion and we didn't ban the Irish ethnicity because of it. This argument apparently makes sense to you, do you know why? Because you are perfectly ignorant and confused. Your model of reality is broken and this aligns perfectly with how your society and mine have been broken. Because imbeciles like you have had too much input with their broken ass model of reality.
Seb Member	Mon Dec 09 02:11:19 And my challenge back is, why would you restrict yourself to religion, Autist?
Seb Member	Mon Dec 09 02:15:08 It boils down to you arbitrarily taking one aspect of someone's ethnicity and saying "yeah, I'm comfortable discriminating against a group by association for the crimes of a minority, as long as it's religion, not say, political philosophy of Irish Republicanism". To argue that there are no parallels because you've axiomatically confined the issue to religion isn't a satisfactory answer Nim. Not at all.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Dec 12 03:56:23 "why would you restrict yourself to religion, Autist?" Not religion, a specific religion, you imbecile. And the reason we restrict ourselves to that specific religion is because of facts.
murder Member	Thu Dec 12 12:33:05 Time for all the Syrian Muhammads to head home. ;o)
obaminated Member	Thu Dec 12 12:36:47 Seb will fight tooth and nail to ensure his wife's baby daddy is never deported.
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