Utopia Talk / Politics / Dune tv show - ot

obaminated rank	Wed Dec 11 19:39:19 2024 Anyone else watching it? I've never read the books so I have no idea how lore accurate it is. I'm on episode 3. I'm enjoying it so far. It isn't amazing. It isn't bad. It's good with a nice production design and interesting characters.
Asgard rank	Thu Dec 12 08:44:07 2024 Is the protagonist a fat black lesbian with red hair? And is the antagonist an evil young white guy? If not, i’m not watching!
jergul rank	Thu Dec 12 11:02:15 2024 That was your take on the prequel to hunger games?
Seb rank	Thu Dec 12 13:42:01 2024 Lovely visuals and similar visual language to the new films; but just feels a bit leaden. GoT did political intrigue a lot better and with more sophistication. That's a problem for a show that's basically entirely court intrigue. All the plots and scheming are very very obvious and also everyone keeps explaining them.
Seb rank	Thu Dec 12 13:43:05 2024 Basically, it doesn't compare well to my current binge shows: the silo and (late to the party) for all mankind.
Seb rank	Thu Dec 12 13:43:19 2024 Not bad, just meh.
Seb rank	Tue Dec 17 01:10:59 2024 Ok that last episode was pretty good. Ruthless sacrificing of pawns to get your key pieces into position without it being quite so painfully explained.
jergul rank	Tue Dec 17 07:45:57 2024 I get the mansplaining. Lynch's Dune failed on that point. So things were wierd for those unfamiliar with the book. Caution is the better part of valour.
jergul rank	Tue Dec 17 07:47:06 2024 Waiting on the last episode until wife gets back from town. So without that context.
Seb rank	Tue Dec 17 09:24:56 2024 Explaining unfamiliar in universe concepts (like the vendetta rules, thinking machine ban) to a room full of people who would obviously know them is one thing. Over explaining the very obvious motivations for doing a thing and why that thing advances your agenda like a Shakespearean play or a cartoon aimed at young children ... that annoys me. First few episodes were a bit clunky.
Seb rank	Tue Dec 17 09:29:42 2024 And actually, I think it is potentially making the Lynch mistake with what the dreams are about.
Nimatzo rank	Tue Dec 17 10:31:01 2024 Not going to please everyone. It will undoubtedly appeal to some of the new audience, but bore others who rather you pull them in with the drama, before you burden them with facts about a world they are not emotionally invested it. I'm sure there is a balance to be struck, but it is hard. On the whole I am OK with stories having a rough start, you need to start somewhere.
Asgard rank	Tue Dec 17 14:11:03 2024 Nimi, Importantly, are there trans Bene Geserit? Because if there aren’t any this show is like totally transphobic
Asgard rank	Tue Dec 17 14:12:06 2024 Free palestine! Free trans bene geserit!
Nimatzo rank	Tue Dec 17 16:24:23 2024 I have no actually seen the show :)
Seb rank	Tue Dec 17 18:46:41 2024 Exposition to explain facts about the world is fine. Not as good as when it's shown, but fine. Explaining the actual drama, on the other hand, is normally a sign that the writers haven't provided it: like explaining the joke.
Seb rank	Mon Dec 30 02:19:43 2024 Picked up, e05 and e06 make me think a second season is warranted
obaminated rank	Mon Dec 30 05:04:28 2024 Yeah I'm looking forward to the next season. The reveal that there is a 3rd party at play was pretty cool.
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