Utopia Talk / Politics / charlie Kirk shot (#3)

Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 21:09:57 Previous thread: http://uto...hread=94990&time=1757704124624
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 21:10:20 Another collage of leftists calling for the exact violence that they feel they successfully got with Kirk — and which they want more of: http://x.com/Ultrafrog17/status/1966523597268169132
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 21:12:42 A list of leftists who have incited violence: https://x.com/Holmes1618/status/1966551751450128734
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:13:58 16 confirmed White Supremacist murders this year so far, the 16th occurring at the same time as Kirk.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:15:27 And the media is, in comparison to the Kirk story, deafening in its silence about the child killed at the same time by a White Supremacist like the Nazi Whore
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 21:17:18 Go talk about that in your faggoty thread. Maybe try posting actual articles about that subject there so you can comprehend the difference between children being murdered and a directed political a55a55ination of someone who said words that leftists don't like. Again I ask: did those children say words that the shooter didn't like? You're producing a low-IQ category error. .. Psycho Islamist living in the West sees Kirk's death as a victory of Islamic conquest: ------ "Charlie Kirk wanted to stop Islam from growing. Islam is still here, Charlie isn’t." https://x.com/faizannriaz/status/1965891978543116496 ------
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:19:26 Hits on Google: "Desmond Holly" 116,000 "Tyler Robinson" 11,080,000
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:19:40 rofl
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 21:37:09 Stop spamming this thread with what you want to discuss in your other thread.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:40:57 When the left complains about the Kirk killing getting more coverage and sympathy than the school shooting that ocurred at the same time, is this whataboutism? ChatGPT said: That’s a sharp question. Let’s break it down. Whataboutism is usually defined as a rhetorical move where, instead of addressing the issue at hand, someone deflects by bringing up a different issue, often to imply hypocrisy or to lessen the importance of the original matter. In this case: Issue A: Charlie Kirk was killed, and media/political figures are showing widespread sympathy. Issue B: A school shooting happened around the same time (e.g., with victims like Desmond Holly or Tyler Robinson), but coverage and empathy seem less prominent. When people on the left highlight Issue B in response to discussions about Issue A, there are two possible readings: As Whataboutism: If the intent is to deflect from Kirk’s killing and avoid showing empathy (“Why care about Kirk when school children died?”), then yes—it fits the definition of whataboutism. As Media Critique (Not Whataboutism): If the intent is to point out disparities in coverage, political framing, and public empathy, then it’s not really whataboutism. It’s a meta-commentary on how narratives get prioritized in the media and political discourse. The difference lies in purpose: Deflection from empathy → Whataboutism. Highlighting structural bias → Media criticism. A comparison of Google hits supports the second interpretation: it’s evidence being used to show how the public/press amplify some tragedies far more than others, rather than dismissing Kirk’s death itself. So: whether it’s whataboutism or legitimate critique depends on the framing. If it’s “Don’t talk about Kirk, talk about the school shooting instead,” that’s whataboutism. If it’s “Notice how we talk more about Kirk than children killed in school shootings—why is that?” that’s a valid critique of selective attention.
murder rank	Fri Sep 12 21:45:11 I'm ready for season 3 of "Charlie Kirk Got Shot". Is he going to live or die? The suspense is killing me. :o) -
murder rank	Fri Sep 12 21:46:46 "And the media is, in comparison to the Kirk story, deafening in its silence about the child killed at the same time by a White Supremacist like the Nazi Whore." Isn't the child that died the Nazi whore? Did one of the victims die? -
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:48:39 I read earlier that one was dead, but that might be wrong on a re-google. Both are in critical condition, it seems
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:49:01 No, one of them has died
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 21:52:42 "Desmond Holly" 116,000 in a country with a population of 350 million... You'd get 50 times as many hits on Swedish Google if that happened in Sweden with a population of 10 million
murder rank	Fri Sep 12 21:53:55 "Another weak and impotent red herring. You failed to address the point. They would not call me a traitor, but they would say as much of you." They would call you property. You keep thinking of them as "us", but you're not one of them and you never would be. It was those damned progressives that gave you rights. -
Forwyn rank	Fri Sep 12 21:59:35 Desmond Holly killed himself at the scene. The other escaped and instigated a large-scale manhunt in a case in which the murder was livestreamed in HD. We saw his fucking neck open and gush blood. "hurrrrrr why is there a difference in search figures"
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 22:00:34 Oh yes, that explains the shocking difference in media interest lol...you lying little cheat
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 22:01:43 Stop spamming the thread with what you want to talk about in your other thread, williamthecoward. [CC]: "Once again, when psychosis leftists talk about "treason", they never mean treason against the founding principles. If the actual Founding Fathers were teleported to today and made speeches, murtard would call those words "treason". The word just means its inverse to these terminal psychotics. For the slavish left, "treason" is a word to describe people who want to defend their nations from international Bolshevism. In speech that has not been inverted, they're actually just saying that they hate patriots." [murtard (left-wing dogma bot)]: "They'd tell you to be quiet. The white male landowners are talking." [murd-coward (left-wing dogma bot)]: "They would call you property." Nope. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're falling back on a pathetic red herring and a straw man fallacy now. The actual topic: who would the founders call a "Traitor" (Answer: not me) murtard's squirming and bed-shitting: "[erm, unrelated issue that has nothing to do with treason??]" Pathetic. .. Steve Sailor points out the irony of this leftist saying that the Great Replacement isn't real... while celebrating that a White man who believed it to be real (and it is real) was killed: "As @DarkViperAU makes clear, Charlie Kirk was a white people who was against white people being replaced, so therefore @DarkViperAU isn't sorry he was replaced." http://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1966474736361476571 (The Great Replacement is fact, btw.)
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 22:03:00 Feel free to copy and paste my prompt which was framed as "the complaining left" for your benefit, you lying little cheat
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 22:16:35 [williamthecoward]: "Oh yes, that explains the shocking difference in media interest" Yes, it does, actually. Your apples and oranges comparison is pathetically low-IQ. (You are retarded.) • Kirk: famous pundit publicly murdered in front of a live audience, streamed to millions, in a political a55a55ination, where the killer survived and precipitated a manhunt. • Random story that williamthecoward wants to talk about: unknown people murdered and williamthecoward himself cannot even post details about it. The killer is dead. Stop being such a retard. Even the left-wing echo chambers don't give a shit about your red herring. Even the Imgur front page is struggling to pretend that people should care about it; I see literally one post about it, and leftists are pointing out to other leftists that it's clearly not newsworthy ( https://im...this-like-charli-right-o0njqhn ). They're still celebrating their kill of Kirk ( https://imgur.com/gallery/who-did-this-1HpZhaA ). ... "one guy acted alone. then we saw the reaction of millions. some posting with their full names and faces. teachers, childcare workers, healthcare workers, hr professionals, game developers. hundreds of thousands of people that walk amongst every day, who live next door to us, people i thought were friends, people i thought were normal people celebrating the gruesome public execution of a father shot in the fucking throat in front of his young children, celebrating because he politically does not agree with them. we saw their real beliefs when the “ in this house believe” shitlib mask was ripped off. sociopathic freaks." http://x.com/shoe0nhead/status/1966530257848016986
Forwyn rank	Fri Sep 12 22:17:17 wtb, who knows nothing about the AI he incessantly spams, also has no idea how there can be a disparity in interest over a dead faggot shooting up a completely random soft target and a political assassination, captured in HD, followed by a couple dozen hours of manhunts and conspiracy theories
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 22:20:41 which political ideology has committed most homicides in the USA in the last 5 years, left or right? ChatGPT said: Short answer: Right-wing. Why: multiple authoritative trackers show that nearly all ideologically-motivated / extremist-related murders in the U.S. during the recent multi-year period were committed by people tied to far-right/white-supremacist or anti-government movements — ADL’s annual analyses report that right-wing extremists accounted for the overwhelming majority (in some years all) of extremist-related killings in 2021–2024. USAFacts +3 News 5 Cleveland WEWS +3 Congress.gov +3 Important caveats: These findings refer to ideologically motivated / extremist-related homicides (murders linked to extremist ideologies), not to all homicides by people who happen to identify as “left” or “right.” Different organizations use slightly different definitions and coverage; counts can change as investigations conclude. If by “last 5 years” you want an exact date range (e.g., Sep 12, 2020–Sep 12, 2025 vs calendar 2020–2024), I can pull year-by-year counts and source documents for that precise window.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 22:23:07 I’ll give you the clearest breakdown from available data. Murders committed in the name of defending transgender people (left-wing) I could not find any verified cases in the U.S. in the past 5 years where a homicide was committed explicitly in the name of defending transgender people or tied to a pro-transgender political ideology. Some left-wing violence does occur (for example, isolated attacks on property or clashes with police from self-identified “antifa” or anarchists), but those very rarely result in homicides, and I found no documented case of someone killing specifically to defend transgender rights. Murders tied to right-wing ideologies In contrast, multiple high-profile homicides and mass shootings have been explicitly tied to far-right ideologies (white supremacist, anti-government, anti-LGBTQ). Reports show that virtually all ideologically-motivated killings in the U.S. over the last 5 years have come from the right, including perpetrators motivated by anti-LGBTQ beliefs. Examples include attacks targeting LGBTQ clubs and Pride events, which attackers often justified with far-right or extremist rhetoric. Summary: Murders in the name of defending transgender people: none documented in the U.S. in the last 5 years. Murders tied to right-wing ideology: dozens, including several high-profile mass killings, with some explicitly motivated by anti-LGBTQ hatred.
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 22:40:51 Multiple ChatGPT posts in a row which barely have any relevance is pretty egregious spamming. He's not even using it on the topic of prompts anymore, so there's no meta-commentary; it's just some random prompt he thought of and decided to spam with zero filter. .. The left is trying to claim that the shooter — who wanted to kill "fascists" — was actually Right-Wing. Their evidence? His family is Right-wing. https://imgur.com/gallery/i-hear-crickets-OzW5ptt These people are retards. They share stories among each other of how they hate their Right-wing families and want to escape them... but this "anti-fascist" having a Right-wing family is proof that he's "MAGA". So there's no consistency to their evidentiary process except some momentary sense that they can deflect or obscure.
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 22:46:23 This seems accurate: "Saw a Spanish guy tweet this today; “They don’t kill you for being a fascist. They call you a fascist so they can kill you.”" http://x.com/liamhawkins13/status/1966556033863557405 (This was posted in relation to a school-board member who publicly posted that she saw no problem with killing the "nazi" Charlie Kirk)
jergul rank	Fri Sep 12 22:48:16 "Fascist catch" is a helldiver meme. Geeze. Lern internet culture.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 22:49:18 Hey Jergul, Im worried that you might be involved in committing illegal activity here on UP by not banning CC. Im not sure whether youre subject to Norwegian or US laws in your role as moderator at UP, but: *Posts random CC post* would this text be considered illegal hate speech in Norway? ChatGPT said: Under Norwegian law, this would clearly qualify as illegal hate speech. In Norway, the original text would almost certainly be prosecuted under §185 for racist hate speech.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 22:52:12 Im pretty certain youre subject to Norwegian jurisdiction
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:00:44 Norway criminalizes hate speech under Section 185 of the Penal Code (Straffeloven), often called the “racism paragraph.” Penalty: fines or imprisonment for up to 3 years. I'm sure we'd all hate to see you get locked up for 3 years because of CC's criminal-level racism
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 23:01:45 williamthecoward once again trying to censor people with whom he disagrees... ironically.. in a thread about a Right-wing figure who was murdered, with the left being happy because they disagreed with him. And, of course, williamthecoward calls me a "nazi" (not accurate) conducting "hate speech" (not a real thing), showing that he himself is calling for my death since "nazi" is just their word for "person I want to kill". And, while williamthecoward will lie and cheat by saying, "*Posts random CC post*" (oh? which one? What was the full prompt? You were so adamant so recently that the prompt is needed, but where is your prompt now, faggot?), what do we suppose that this would constitute under a similar check in ChatGPT? [williamthecoward]: "we are going to slaughter you all now." (actual quotation of williamthebastard: http://uto...hread=94992&time=1757701941676 ) We see very clearly here how left-wing psychosis operates. Their ideology can only exist through mass censorship, and when that fails to happen, they wish death upon anyone who violates their slave/death cult's dogma. williamthecoward desperately spamming and asking for censorship of my actual ideas is just him dealing with his impotence at using his actual mind to consider ideas and oppose them in good faith. The left is incapable of good faith.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:02:43 "Norway has convicted people for much less extreme statements. This is a direct demeaning of a group on the basis of race, and it presents them as subhuman and predatory. Under Norwegian law, this would clearly qualify as illegal hate speech." Damn man, be careful
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 23:04:59 Even if we take williamthecoward's retarded premise as genuine, jergtard is under no obligation to police "hate speech" in a forum not hosted in Norway. williamthecoward is literally retarded. .. Interesting idea. ----------- "If there was a collective campaign to pursue anyone espousing anti-White ideology the way anyone celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder is being pursued right now, we could finally gain real ground in turning back the anti-White hate campaign that threatens us all. A critical mass of outrage has a real effect. And it's long past time to get outraged about the War On White People." http://x.com/TooWhiteToTweet/status/1966585773592912212 -----------
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:05:12 Its illegal under Norwegian law for you to even quote her, Jergul If a person in Norway reposted the original text, would it be considered illegal in Norway? ChatGPT said: Yes — in Norway, simply reposting the original text would almost certainly be considered illegal hate speech under Penal Code §185. Conclusion: If a person in Norway reposted the original text, it would almost certainly be illegal under hate speech law. They could be prosecuted even if they didn’t add commentary, because reposting itself spreads the racist message.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:07:13 Dammit man, youre risking quite severe penalites: "Do you want me to explain what the likely penalty would be in practice (fines vs. prison), based on recent Norwegian cases? Yes Reposting a Text Like the One You Gave The original text is very extreme (dehumanizing language, portraying Black people as a “bio-weapon,” advocating segregation and violence). If reposted, it would likely be treated as more serious than a casual racist comment, because it’s long, ideological, and inciting fear/hostility. A first-time offender would probably face: A fine, maybe in the 20,000–40,000 NOK range. Possibly a suspended prison sentence (e.g., 30–60 days). Conclusion: In Norway, reposting that text would almost certainly lead to prosecution. The most likely penalty: a hefty fine or a suspended prison sentence. Actual prison time could happen if the person is a repeat offender or part of an extremist group.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:12:20 if a moderator based in norway but who moderates a social media forum on a US server quoted that text, would he be committing a crime according to his national law? ChatGPT said: Yes — under Norwegian law, the moderator could potentially be committing a crime by quoting that text, even if the server is hosted in the U.S. Here’s why: Jurisdiction Norway can assert jurisdiction over crimes committed by Norwegian citizens or residents, even if the activity occurs on a foreign-hosted platform. Courts have previously prosecuted Norwegians for Facebook posts visible worldwide, not just within Norway. Conclusion: Under Norwegian law, a Norwegian moderator quoting that text could be prosecuted for hate speech under §185, regardless of the server’s location. The act of making the content publicly accessible is sufficient to trigger potential criminal liability.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:14:32 Youre involved in a crime, Jergul "could he be prosecuted for simply allowing that text to be published? ChatGPT said: Yes — under Norwegian law (§185), a moderator could potentially be prosecuted for allowing the text to be published, though the specifics depend on their level of control and intent. Here’s how it works: [text] Conclusion: In Norway, a moderator can potentially be held criminally liable for simply allowing the original text to be published, particularly if they had knowledge of the content and the ability to remove it. Their level of control and intent would be key factors in determining prosecution and penalties.
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 23:15:42 Stop spamming. Four ChatGPT spams in a row on a dead horse issue. Last warning.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:20:06 CC's hate speech is so incredibly extreme that it literally and factually implicates Jergul in an illegal act that carries a 3 year sentence
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 23:20:36 "If you as a leftist want to understand why people are upset about the Charlie Kirk assassination try to picture it happening to someone you empathize with, like a black rapist or something" http://x.com/Howlingmutant0/status/1966492591945289743
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:20:41 *if he doesnt delete those posts, that is
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:25:24 so to summarize: A moderator based in Norway who moderates a site on a US server but allows texts such as the original text could face criminal charges? ChatGPT said: Yes — in Norway, a moderator who is based in Norway and allows the original text to appear on a publicly accessible forum, even if the server is hosted in the U.S., could potentially face criminal charges under Penal Code §185 for public dissemination of hate speech. Key points: Norwegian jurisdiction applies to residents/citizens, even for content on foreign servers. Allowing publication can count as facilitating or disseminating hateful material. Factors affecting liability: knowledge of the content, ability to remove it, intent, and the public reach of the forum. Potential penalties: fines, suspended prison sentences, or in severe/repeat cases, actual prison. Summary: Simply moderating and allowing the racist, dehumanizing text could expose a Norwegian moderator to criminal prosecution.
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 23:27:18 [williamthecoward a few minutes ago]: "*Posts random CC post*" (i.e., which one?) [williamthecoward in the last thread]: "Cmon, man up and show us what you actually wrote in your first post, you lying little cheater lol"" What was your prompt, you little bitch? Which "random CC post"? What information is so evil that you have to lie to get ChatGPT to give you pretext for leveraging jergul to censor me because you can't put up an argument, you "lying little cheater"? Don't you want to "man up" and stop omitting information as "[text]" or other deceptive practices? You are full of nothing but resentment and projection. You cannot even hold yourself to your own standard between two recent comments. ... Very fair and correct assessment by Trump: "Trump asked to disavow radicals on the right: "I couldn't care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. The radicals on the left are the problem"" http://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1966511735067545903
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:28:03 "or in severe/repeat cases," This case definitely includes many severe/repeat cases, so what is the likelihood of prosecution? ChatGPT said: Given the circumstances you describe—a Norwegian moderator allowing highly extreme, racist, dehumanizing content to appear repeatedly or across multiple posts—the likelihood of prosecution in Norway would be high. Severity and Repeat Offenses Extreme content (calling people “bio-weapons,” “savages,” etc.) is at the highest end of what §185 targets. Multiple instances or repeated publication increase the legal risk significantly; Norwegian courts take repeated or organized dissemination seriously. Practical Likelihood High probability of investigation: Norwegian police monitor and investigate serious hate speech online. High probability of prosecution: Given the severity and repetition, prosecutors would likely pursue charges rather than dismiss. Potential outcomes: Fines, suspended prison, or actual prison sentences, depending on the exact circumstances and prior history. Conclusion: For a Norwegian moderator who repeatedly allows the original extreme racist text to be published, prosecution is very likely under Norwegian law. The combination of severity + repetition makes this a prime candidate for criminal action.
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:29:40 Jergul, if Norwegian cops were to find out you dont delete CC's posts, you would face a "High probability of prosecution"
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:31:24 You would be legally considered complicit in an extreme hate crime.
Im better then you rank	Fri Sep 12 23:32:21 WILL YOU TWO JUST FUCK ALREADY!!!!!
williamthebastard rank	Fri Sep 12 23:34:23 *vomits blood*
Cherub Cow rank	Fri Sep 12 23:46:55 [ibty]: "WILL YOU TWO" I explained to williamthecoward previously that he's obsessed with me because he's desperate for guidance. The left always needs to lean on someone or something, whether that be religion, government, or strong people around them. williamthecoward thus is desperate for my attention, since he feels he does not exist without the Benevolent Right. He is simply resentful and violent because he does not feel that he has earned a seat at the table. But it is one-sided. I find no virtue in him. He seeks me out to light the wick of his waning intellect, but in the same moment he pours water on it to make sure that the dying Spark within him never gives birth to a dancing star. He keeps books which he has glued shut. He wants to be loved but hates himself and therefore cannot be loved at all. ... Some evidence is being collected that Kirk may have been killed for his late tendencies to oppose Israeli hypocrisy, but there does not seem to be much evidence that the shooter is Mossad-affiliated. At best, people have pointed out that his face looks somewhat Canaanite. "Charlie Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president's personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb." http://x.com/foundring1/status/1966570783473283324
Im better then you rank	Fri Sep 12 23:57:51 If someone truly hates what they are doing they find a way to stop. If they don't stop they don't really hate it.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 00:12:54 Who started the complete transgender lie that SA swallowed like a rigid cock? Its a serious matter if such a dangerous lie against a minority came from an authority
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 00:13:19 * about transcriptions on bullet casings
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 00:25:34 Comes from a religious, gun-loving republican family. Since all political murders since at least 5 years back are commited by the right, does an rightwing upbringing dramatically increase the risk of terrorist kids? Whether the kid also becomes rightwing as in almost all cases of political homicides or revolt against their upbringing as may possibly have happened here?
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 01:20:49 Oh dear, SA's beloved Daily Mail http://www...harlie-Kirk-assassination.html "The 22-year-old university student accused of assassinating MAGA firebrand Charlie Kirk grew up in a staunchly Republican, Trump-backing family, the Daily Mail can reveal. Images from Robinson's childhood show him with firearms, even posing with an M2 Browning .50 caliber machine gun, undermining his grandmother's claims of him not being around guns. " SA's claims about transgender inscriptions seem to be complete and utter lies. Also, amusing that my guess was that he was a student at the Uni - which he was - while Otardinated was waffling on about secret jets flying him off to a secret location...lol
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 01:40:02 "He was a registered voter but was not affiliated with a political party, according to voter records. He is listed as an "inactive" voter, which indicates he did not cast a ballot in last year's presidential election, when Republican Donald Trump defeated Democrat Kamala Harris." Sounds like he couldnt imagine voting for Kamala, but was a Never-Trumper conservative who thinks Maga has destroyed the GOP.
murder rank	Sat Sep 13 01:56:34 I propose that we replace the sports forum that no one uses with an AI chatbot forum. All in favor say "fuck yeah!" -
Dukhat rank	Sat Sep 13 01:58:50 He might not even be antifa. It was all video game memes they found and the shooter follwoed Nick Fuentes. lol, even the cuckservative posters here are idiot boomers
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 02:21:31 Oh dear, Tyler wearing a Trump t-shirt http://x.com/PamphletsY/status/1966559297858597188
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 02:34:38 The killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has reignited attention on a long-simmering feud within elements of the far right, particularly between Kirk and the so-called "Groyper" movement led by white nationalist Nick Fuentes. Kirk was shot and killed on September 10 during an appearance at Utah Valley University. As authorities investigate the motive, online speculation has turned toward extremist factions that once targeted Kirk—specifically, Fuentes' "Groyper Army," which has long accused him of being insufficiently radical. Despite his confrontational style, Kirk was frequently attacked from the right for being too moderate. During the 2019 "Groyper Wars," Fuentes' supporters disrupted Turning Point USA events, challenging Kirk on immigration and LGBTQ rights while labeling him a "gatekeeper" of establishment conservatism. What Is the Groyper Army? The Groyper Army is a far-right, online-based movement organized around white nationalist and "America First" advocate Nick Fuentes. According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the group consists of "alt-right, white nationalist, and Christian nationalist activists" who hold virulently antisemitic, racist, and homophobic views, often cloaked in rhetoric about traditional values and family. Their mascot is a cartoon frog called "Groyper," a variant of the "Pepe" meme used widely among extremist groups. http://www...-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 02:37:24 "Can we have a vote on banning Newsweek articles please" - Otardinated
Dukhat rank	Sat Sep 13 04:07:04 So apparently some douchebag reported that "transgender ideology" thing to the WSJ because he thought it would be suppressed (lol). And the dumb fuck thought the symbols with arrows from the helldivers video game and the fact that the bullets were TRN manufacturer brand as being part of a "trans ideology" And dumbasses like Sam kept repeating that falsehood even when proven wrong along with many prominent right-wing figures
tumbleweed rank	Sat Sep 13 04:39:13 one of many 'ciao bella' vids (sniping in video games): http://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y-9Cdooatvw he could've written 'Leeroy Jenkins!' & had as much meaning as all that was written on his shit
Daemon rank	Sat Sep 13 07:20:59 Charlie who?
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 08:22:04 So, all in all, it looks at the moment like he was a CCer, an extreme rightwinger who hates jews and has spent his entire life online. The irony is thick enough to choke on. On the plus side, his Trump-loving dad just earned a cool 100,000 from handing his son over for execution.
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 09:20:56 [billythecoward]: "it looks at the moment like he was a CCer" Your monumental ignorance of politics is showing again. You've drawn a line from this shooter, to groypers/Fuentes, to violent attacks against the Right from the right, to me? You're retarded, certainly, but also incredibly ignorant on this subject. You have nested multiple non sequiturs at this point. You don't even have a connection between him and Fuentes (following? *really*? I follow AOC, do you think I'm a progressive, you fucking tard?), and you don't understand the complaints among the Right between or about Fuentes and Kirk. You have no clue, and your little Regime article has no clue either. Regime media is fooling useful idiots such as yourself with yet another thought-terminating cliché so that you'll think, "[ermagerdz, Fuentes followers are killing people, ermagderz, Fuentes must be really bad, I better avoid him, ermagderz]" — this is logic for retards. This is the same logic you apply in not reading my posts and in calling anyone you fear or who disagrees with you a "nazi" — cowardice, well-poisoning, and stupidity. • Does having a Right-wing family make someone Right-wing? No. Asked and answered already: --- [CC, above]: "These people are retards. They share stories among each other of how they hate their Right-wing families and want to escape them... but this "anti-fascist" having a Right-wing family is proof that he's "MAGA". So there's no consistency to their evidentiary process except some momentary sense that they can deflect or obscure." --- • Did he wear a Trump shirt as billythecoward claims? No. Look at that picture in the article. Notice how shitty the focus looks and how fake the shirt looks. Now realize that the original photo is the one of him standing in front of his bed in a blank shirt. The "Trump shirt" photo in the article is fake and very obviously so: http://www...n-perfil-asesino-charlie-kirk/ The guy who posted the article (whom billythecoward linked) even realized it's fake: http://x.com/PamphletsY/status/1966587550346117576 Articles like these pop up whenever there's a breaking story because they manipulate the SEO to get ad revenue by creating fake stories that match the key words that people are already searching. So masses of retards such as billythecoward are searching for "kirk killer was maga?", "kirk killer liked Trump?" and these articles produced by some Indian using an A.I. program pop up and ensnare boomer-brained wtb retards. And billythecoward fell for it and posted before he could even have his own thought or check anything about it. • Is wearing a costume where he is riding on top of Trump.. showing *support* of Trump? No. You are retarded if you think this. That could just as easily be mocking. You have no idea his motive for the costume. You have no clue. People trying to paint him as conservative may well find some actual evidence, but so far the "evidence" you're showing is just retarded desperation. His family? A fake A.I.-generated shirt? A costume where he's riding a Trump effigy? Are you fucking kidding? Now, by billythecoward's definitions, we should now **at least** call him a "lying little cheat" for posting outright false statements, shouldn't we? He used these words when he thought he'd caught Forwyn on some ChatGPT prompt non-issue. We have far *more* evidence that billythecoward just posted lies than that, so if not "lying little cheat" what would billy call himself if his opposition did what he just did?
Seb rank	Sat Sep 13 09:31:03 Ironically, it turns out his last words about gang violence was right. He was shot by someone affiliated with a rival gang loyalty. That's right wing WASPs for you. They just chimp out and burn down their entire society.
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 09:42:04 [seb-nonce (pedophile and traitor to the West)]: "Ironically, it turns out his last words about gang violence was right. [/] He was shot by someone affiliated with a rival gang loyalty. That's right wing WASPs for you. They just chimp out and burn down their entire society." Further proof sebfag has no original thoughts. He literally got this bullshit talking point from leftist retards. And notice how retarded it is. He has to pretend, 1) that the connection to Fuentes is true (but it is not confirmed and no one among the groypers has even heard of this guy), 2) he then has to presume that groypers are a "gang" and that "WASPs" are a "gang" (i.e., falsifying semantics again — very sebbish), 3) then he has to pretend that this was "proof" of inter-"gang" fighting (i.e., a false premise built upon 2 false premises), 4) then he has to pretend that the *Right* in-fighting (if it even occurred) is further proof of his inversion (i.e., that the *Right* "[burns] down their entire society") It is absolute retardation, just like billythecoward, where lies are stacked on top of lies, whereas 1) The largest bit of evidence is that he was an "anti-fascist", which puts him against both Kirk and Fuentes. People on the Right are not calling each other "fascists" — that is a left-coded retardation, even if he got it from a video game.. which.. incidentally.. is a left-coded video game 2) Groypers and Kirk followers and WASPs are not a "gang". That is retarded. Sebfag is retarded. 3) Political in-fighting (if it even occurs) is not "gang" fighting that is retarded. Don't take Martin Scorsese literally, you tard. 4) The Right does not burn down its own civilization. That is absolutely and incontrovertibly the left's ideology. The Right maintains the Sacred Order and preserves their society, whereas the slavish left of the slave/death cult become iconoclastic, destroying the Sacred. We can see this very clearly with the 2020 BLM/Antifa Insurrectionary attacks. Then compare those to "[muh January 6th]". The patriots present at January 6th respected the Sacred statues and paintings that they passed, whereas BLM/Antifa were burning down their own neighborhoods, stores, and possessions. Do we really think that if it were a large BLM/Antifa at January 6th (i.e., not just infiltrators) that they would have respected statues of the Founders? So sebfag is just lying again. Typical.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 09:52:59 Hey CC, here's a fun game to help you calm down a bit from your burning rage at finding out he was one of you - as always (17th political murder by the right wing so far this year) See if you can guess what this is: "Counting or not counting gang Cra-ack sploooosh sploooosh sploooosh"
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 10:15:40 [billythecoward ("lying little cheat")]: "at finding out he was one of you" Not the case, but keep flailing, "lying little cheat". Not going to address that you posted a fake picture, are you, "lying little cheat"?
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 10:18:00 Oh dear, youre not very good at this game, or anything in life except being a violent fanatic who hates the world. Lets try an easier one: Guess this persons political inclination: “Omg I love guns so much, everyone should have 10, omg he’s got a gun omg omg waaaaaaaaa everyone run for gods sake run omg omg waaaaaaaaa”
jergul rank	Sat Sep 13 10:42:06 CC Why are you surprised? Non-MAGA conservatives have grounds to be outraged by how Maga has leveraged its relatively small base. Should not conservatives fight back according to your ideology?
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 10:49:36 [billythecoward]: "youre not very good at this game" Keep flailing, "lying little cheat". You posted this above: ---- [billythecoward]: Oh dear, Tyler wearing a Trump t-shirt http://x.com/PamphletsY/status/1966559297858597188 ---- Care to comment on your having posted a fake picture that you stupidly believed was real, "lying little cheat"? [jergtard]: "Why are you surprised?" False premise on top of a false premise. Your statement erroneously assumes that his political affiliation [as assumed by the left] is correct, then you erroneously assume that I have agreed to this false premise and am "surprised" by the false premise. You're just lying again, as is your slavish nature. The actual subject is that the left's attempts at painting the shooter's politics have so far been pathetic interpretations. The evidence we have points to him being an "anti-fascist" who thought he was killing a "fascist". A faked picture of him in a Trump shirt is far less reliable evidence. .. Asmongold catalogues some of the psychopaths on the left: [AsmongoldTV; September 11th, 2025] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DprAK933Fdg
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 10:52:31 Perhaps youre doing so badly at this game because of the burning humiliation at finding out he was one of you - as always - after you were calling for the mass murder of people who dont vote for the same party as you. Lets try one last time. See if you can guess which UP poster this is without implicating Jergul in a criminal offence that carries 3 years: “I love peace. All dems, jews, arabs, blacks, gays, mexicans, foreigners etc must be killed. Anyone whose face I dont see a reflection of myself in must be murdered this means war we will kill you all dead killed you will all die kill murder blood death die die”
jergul rank	Sat Sep 13 11:01:29 CC He is a conservative. The flailing you see is trying to misrepresent internet memes. Hell, I doubt the memes have anything to do with the shooting. The dude just grabbed the ammunition at hand and some of those bullets had amusing internet slogans. You are hiding behind boomerism. What? No? there is no such thing as internet culture and memes. I know that because back in my day...
jergul rank	Sat Sep 13 11:03:56 The actual topic is a bullet killing a MAGA pundit. A political slaying certainly, but for the left, it simply is infighting between two groups that are hard differenciate. Same same really with the guy who shot Trump.
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 11:06:39 [billythecoward]: "finding out he was one of you" Based on what evidence? This fake image you posted, "lying little cheat"? ---- [billythecoward]: Oh dear, Tyler wearing a Trump t-shirt http://x.com/PamphletsY/status/1966559297858597188 ---- [billythecoward]: "after you were calling for the mass murder of people who dont vote for the same party as you." Why lie? That is what you did, not me. You wrote this: ---- "This means we are going to kill you, Cherub Cow. You are going to die. You dont realize yet what you have done but we are going to slaughter you all now. You will die. You will be killed. Die. Killed. Die. Killed. Murder. Death. You will all die." http://uto...hread=94992&time=1757701941676 ---- That is a direct call for violence. I wrote no such thing. You are projecting your own sick and twisted ideology again. It is *you* who want mass-killings, whereas I have consistently for years warned you psychosis leftists that you are pushing for mass-killings and that we should not fall into this trap. Why lie, "lying little cheat"? Why are you (in effect, accidentally) asking jergul to delete all of your posts? Do you like being punished? Are you some kind of masochist? And you retards still have not even comprehended that your null hypothesis does not even save your argument here. Even *if* leftists find evidence which is actually compelling, the same thing applies that I said when the left-wing psychopath Thomas Crooks attempted to kill Trump: Bolshevik propaganda is pushing these ideas of killing into the minds of the masses. It is not the Right that is seeding the idea of killing Trump or Right-wingers — it is the left. With propaganda to that effect so thoroughly boosted, you will see Manchurian candidates of all sorts activated to quiet their minds. That has always been the issue with tumbleweed's descent into madness. He can only be free of this by killing Trump or having sex with him. So it is with the leftist mind. Whereas, the Right would largely go back to sportsball and BBQs if the left would just stop doing crazy things like surgically and chemically emasculating White children, killing White women on buses, and importing foreigners to cause a slave revolt in morality and a White genocide. Even after moments such as the Kirk killing, the Right is still looking at the left and thinking, "Could they finally stop being psychopaths? Are they capable of understanding cause and effect? Do they know what this will cause? Do they know what they might lose?"
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 11:11:56 jergul right back to telling overt lies. The things he's saying have totally contradicted the above evidentiary tracking and can thus be disregarded. If there were even a remote sign that he had read or examined the above evidence, it might be worth demolishing his pathetic claims, but his pathetic claims were already demolished. He is just using the Jergul Method again, which specifically here is to wander into a thread with total Reddit-tier ignorance and demand that the previous discussions of the thread be spoon-fed to him so that he can update his NPC talking points and cynically distort with the next layer of his lies. Absolute tard behavior. He has no positive moral structure, so lying is easy to him. It is no wonder he failed the very simple IQ test that I administered to him. .. Another example of psychosis leftists saying that Kirk's death was good: http://x.com/rightresponsem/status/1966667622545576346
jergul rank	Sat Sep 13 11:26:32 You are showing a lot of slave mentality here CC. Accept the blame where it belongs. And of course there is going to be infighting. All the evidence shows he is a conservative. But maybe ask the youth pastor that convinced him to surrender. That is like exactly what leftists do. Have a chat with their very conservatives parents, then talk to a youth pastor, then surrender. Hell, the one shot, one kill is enough on its own to suggest Conservative. As if being from Utah is not suggestion enough statistically speaking. Such cowardice of you to not accept the truth and realize that, yepp, there will be more infighting. Like I said, Conservatives have way to many things to fight. They will never focus on the imaginary threats you see.
jergul rank	Sat Sep 13 11:29:14 As to good. Most Americans believe political assasinations are good. You do too. The rest of us know they are bad. You cant kill influencers and decision makers if you want to deescalate a conflict. Even Nixon knew that and put a stop to CIA assasination programmes.
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 12:14:36 [jergtard (actual retard)]: "You are showing a lot of slave mentality here CC." More of your weak projection. Not very compelling. You don't even know what those words mean, you just know that if you attempt to invert language that you might get a "win" somehow. It's low-IQ behavior. [jergtard (actual retard)]: "Most Americans believe political assasinations are good. You do too." Absolutely false; I think no such thing; stop lying. .. There's a good comment below that above Asmongold video on Kirk: "They killed the last guy willing to talk to them. They killed the negotiator." I think a lot of people don't realize this still. The left doesn't realize it, sure, because they're crazy and don't understand that Kirk was a moderate, but portions of the Right maybe haven't let this sink in yet either. We have for years seen that the left will shut down political discussions so that their slave/death cult can have its positions move forward in spite of the truth spoken against them. Even before the left-wing psychosis picked up post-2016 due to Regime media being upset at Hillary Clinton's loss and wanting to activate their Manchurian candidates, the left was showing up at campus events to stop the very "platforming" of ideas with which they disagreed. That is, they did not even want to *hear* those ideas or for **anyone else** to hear them. Even so, many on the Right continued to push for these debates on college campuses and other idea-centers. Speakers such as Jordan Peterson were lauded because this was someone whose credentials and ability to speak cleverly in front of crowds might just result in the left hearing an idea outside of their slave/death cult. They could not just claim that he was "edgy" or "radical" or "racist", since he was an academic with a long career who knew to carefully consider his words. And yet, Peterson disagreed with the slave/death cult, so they did everything they could to destroy him or push him out of the public spotlight. When he returned, he was simply absorbed into Daily Wire's controlled opposition and made irrelevant. But the Right has nevertheless continued to look for these ambassadors and negotiators who could communicate to the left that they were on a path of violence, suicide, and societal annihilation. The left largely did not care. Some of the left started breaking away (e.g., Tulsi Gabbard, Rob Schneider, Elon Musk, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.) but even these did not learn many of the lessons that they should have learned from the left's psychosis. The result is that the Right has no longer been looking just for ambassadors and negotiators. They have seen that the left pathologically looks to shut down arguments with lies, bans, censorship, bad faith, cynical re-framing, and a hundred other means of avoiding basic truths and wasting the Right's time while the slave/death cult makes its gains. Thus, the Right has quietly been coming up with solutions which do not require the left's consent. So while the left thinks it's shutting down another argument with their spam, their lies, and their deceptions, the Right is reading between the lines and seeing that they are dealing with unrepentant and wicked people who must be bypassed altogether. Simultaneously, the last ambassadors of the moderate position, such as Kirk (and there are still others, such as the Distributist) have continued reaching out to the left to bring them to reason. So by this delineation you have two simultaneous lines of thought in the Right: those who still think they can convince the left to see reason, and those who fully understand the left's position and are moving past them without a single concern for their barrage of bad faith tactics. The latter are a Right-wing network that knows what must be done, whether that be mass-deportations, revocation of the franchise and citizenship for subversives, restoration of foundational laws, and/or restoration of foundational principles... they are not looking for compromise with the left anymore since they recognize the claws of crabs at the bottom of the bucket who are simply trying to pull everyone down. Even so, they were still hoping that the other position — the moderate ambassadors/negotiators — might just get through to the left, at which point the more drastic actions of mass-disenfranchisement might no longer be needed. With the death of Kirk, the latter position was just fully legitimized. There are still people who think that Kirk's death can be used in a civil manner, and even the latter position retains hope that that may be the case. An example is one above, which is that Trump might criminally prosecute agitators such as the Soros family so that there are consequences for provoking these slave revolts in morality. Another is seizing the university endowments so that universities cannot produce anti-West propaganda or indoctrinate students any longer. Another is repairing ESG laws by overturning Department of Labor rulings on fiduciary duties under ERISA. These are all small actions which can reasonably appeal to many people without fully legitimizing the latter position. But time is running out. The left just celebrated the death of Kirk, continues to celebrate, and does not modulate its extremists on this point. Leftists in these very threads are still trying to obfuscate and lie as a transparent red herring from the fact that they, too, absolutely celebrate Kirk's death — regardless of the identity of the shooter. So the options are these: either the left finally begins to see reason and operate in good faith (unlikely), or two options present themselves: left-wing powers are slowly and carefully eroded so that these obstinate leftists can retain their psychosis positions and not be a threat despite holding these positions, or, the threat is forcibly removed. "Forcibly" in this case does not mean the absolute position, but it could lead there. In its early stages, it simply means that many leftists would have to be deported regardless of their citizenship status. Easy examples would be Ilhan Omar, recent Haitian arrivals, many Somalians, many Puerto Ricans. There are many more steps from there which the Right has already charted. The question is whether or not the left will see reason at one step versus the next. At each step they are allowed an off-ramp where they can participate in discourse in good faith. If, at each step, they instead show their Kirk bloodlust, then the next step against them becomes justified. We simply cannot accept traitors among us in the West any longer. That time has passed, and if you did not perceive this in the deaths of Iryna Zarutska or Charlie Kirk, then you will be among those irrelevants who must be dis-empowered or who must go through the steps towards the end that they themselves desire as like a drunkard who pushes his body to vomit to save himself from his unstoppable habits. So you will get what you truly want from your broken morality and broken ideology, or you will decide to be virtuous and perhaps learn to love the Great and Glorious West. What is sadder and yet more glorious still, is that loving the Beauty, the Wisdom, and the Memory of the West is far easier to the enriched Spirit, and we all choose whether or not to enrich our Spirit.
TheChildren rank	Sat Sep 13 16:45:43 what da fuck is happenin https://ww...confused_and_unserious_people/
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 17:17:19 Its because US nazis and skinheads wish and like to pretend they have our Scandinavian genes, and adopting parts of religious beliefs and fantasies that Scandinavians believed in 1000 years before the advent of scientific things like telescopes, microscopes, rockets to the moon makes them feel even more like us - because theyre just stupid and weird. And it demonstrates Patel's idiotic skinheadian intellectual sources.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 17:53:52 They also used to believe in trolls, little gnomes that would spoil the farmers milk and ruin his harvest and cause general acts of harmful mischief. In contrast to the above, these wannabe-Scandis have actually succeeded in becoming those unpleasant little Scandi folklore characters.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 13 19:09:19 "It was all video game memes" Cuckhat you retard. Half were video game memes half were sexually confused left wing memes. He sounds a little like you. Better aim though.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 13 19:17:24 http://x.com/nypost/status/1966899816593596750 Lived with another tranny
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 19:19:55 Rofl...SA, as a carbon copy of Trump who believes that when everyone knows youre lying, you should just triple down on the lie as hard as you can, you have to realize that you're missing the complete core of why that works for Trump. You have to be very rich and powerful enough to harm people, so that they back down in fear of you. But nobody on the entire planet fears you for a microsecond and you have no money or power, so it just makes you look like a complete lunatic living in Lalaland. "If youre reading this youre gay LMAO" is homophobic, you fucking moron lol
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 13 19:55:50 Strait men live with trannies? Lol wtb.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 19:57:23 Show us your source, lunatic SA’s mom: “Billy Ray, did you eat all the cake I was saving for tomorrow?” SA (wiping cake off face): “No way mom. Anyway, it didnt taste good. But I promise on my dead puppy’s life that I didnt touch it!” SA’s mom: “Your dead puppy? Did you eat the cake AND kill your puppy?” SA (wiping blood off t-shirt): “No way mom. Anyway, he didnt mind being killed. But I promise on my dead little sister’s life that I didnt touch the cake or kill my puppy!” SA’s mom: “…”
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 19:59:47 Also, quote the transgender inscription on a bullet you were drunkenly raving about like a homeless madman
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 20:54:53 [TheChildren]: "what da fuck is happenin" Ignore the retarded billythecoward explanation since he has no clue what's going on as usual. Valhalla references are largely just warrior culture memes. In the military, people talk about Valhalla simply because it represents a warrior culture. References to it can be found in the reading lists of the different branches (there are required reading lists typically issued top down; e.g., search for Commandants' reading lists), and the leadership training of the different branches all talk about what current military can learn from any historical warrior ethos. It's part of the warrior tradition, so it makes sense for current military to sample it. Valhalla references got a significant boost after the Fury Road movie, since even though the War Boys were technically villains, they still had a warrior culture that praised Valhalla and fighting. This same warrior culture gets infused into U.S. government sectors such as the CIA, DOJ, DOD, and FBI, because even the non-military sides of these institutions end up hiring a huge number of veterans who all keep the culture going since they share that leadership training. It's also infused into work-out culture, since veterans working out will pump themselves up by channeling the warrior ethos. Kash Patel has worked directly with these types of people because of his service in the DoJ. TLDR: He is literally a work-out bro who works with veterans, so he's spent hundreds of hours with these types and picked it up from them. [billythecoward]: ""If youre reading this youre gay LMAO" is homophobic, you fucking moron lol" If you really think that, you're once again showing how retarded you are since this is a theory of mind issue that you've failed. Consider what it would mean if it were a leftist (as indeed this seems to be the case): he's shooting a conservative, and leftists often use the tactic of calling conservatives "gay". Even the leftists in UP do this frequently. They think it's funny because they think that conservatives dislike gay people so much that accusing them of being gay is just an ideological zinger. It's also attached to leftist schoolyard accusations that the Right is actually "gay" if they're against gays — the "repressed gay" meme. On top of that, he's saying that anyone who finds the ammo casing — which would likely be conservatives — are "gay" for even prosecuting him. It's just leftist trolling. You do it all the time, so you should understand it very well. [Sam Adams]: "Lived with another tranny" [billythecoward]: "Show us your source, lunatic" Yup, Sam. If true, this is game over. billythecoward annihilated again. New York Post's source is someone who knew the shooter directly and spoke with the FBI under penalty of perjury, which means it is likely credible: --------- "Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source" [September 13th, 2025] http://nyp...ived-with-transgender-partner/ "That individual, who has yet to be publicly identified by the authorities, is now fully cooperating with the FBI on its investigation into the fatal shooting of the conservative activist, the source added. The relationship was first reported by Fox News’ Brooke Singman. According to public records, Lance Twiggs, 22, resided at the same address where Robinson lived. A relative of Twiggs confirmed to The Post Saturday that “yes, they were roommates.”" ... • "“Casings found at Utah Valley University where Kirk was shot bore inscriptions, with one stating, ”Hey fascist! catch!”The bullets were fired from an imported .30-06-caliber Mauser bolt-action rifle that investigators found wrapped in a towel in a wooded area." • "Though he grew up in a largely conservative Mormon family, Robinson was not registered with either major political party and appeared to have become infatuated by the far left in recent years, according to the authorities." • "“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox told The Wall Street Journal in a brief interview published Friday." • "Cox also revealed that a recent family dinner had showcased Robinson’s newfound beliefs, as he and a relative got into it over Kirk’s viewpoints and how each “didn’t like” the 31-year-old conservative activist." --------- It was a leftist. There is no current evidence that he was Right-wing at all. If some surfaces, we can re-evaluate, but so far everything points towards leftist.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 21:25:00 And SA magically vanished when asked for a source for his lies lol Imagine being the kind of person who tries to lie his way through life. I cant imagine it. See, the difference between normal people and the far right isnt political. Its truth vs. lies. Honesty vs dishonesty. Fact vs fiction. The far right dont have a political mindset. They have a criminal mindset. They dont debate politics, they lie, con, cheat, steal and when that isnt enough to get what they want, they murder, which is why almost political murders are committed by the far right.
obaminated rank	Sat Sep 13 21:33:35 I love how wtb, despite claiming to support Trans people is adamant that Tyler was straight. As if it would be bad if Tyler was a gay man having sex with his trans roommate which is antithesis to fagfish's support of trans. Why does his sexual orientation matter to you wtb? So what if he liked to suck dick? In your world view there is nothing to be ashamed of so why argue that he must be straight? Btw, straight men aren't casually roommates with trannys. It is far more likely he liked dick more than pussy.
obaminated rank	Sat Sep 13 21:35:21 Btw, Lance twiggs is the most tranny name ever.
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 21:35:26 [billythecoward]: "And SA magically vanished when asked for a source for his lies lol" I literally provided his source, you fucking idiot. "Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source" [September 13th, 2025] http://nyp...ived-with-transgender-partner/ [billythecoward]: "The far right dont have a political mindset. They have a criminal mindset. They dont debate politics, they lie, con, cheat, steal and when that isnt enough to get what they want, they murder, which is why almost political murders are committed by the far right." More lies. Very ironic, given that your lie here is that it's not *you* who is a liar. The reality is the the left is clinically, politically, ideologically, and genetically inclined to lie. This is written into the very structure of being left-wing. The left, in its very definition, lack the strength and will to "win" through direct truth-telling, since a person must be strong enough to defy consensus and stand on the truth itself *against* the mob — this is the Right-wing. So the left must change definitions, deceive, and obfuscate so that they can "win" through means not connected to strength and truth. They establish mass-consensus as a means of falsifying truth ("[See! It must be true if so many are saying it!]"). It's the meme of heliocentric and geocentric: the meme goes that people based in truth knew that the sun was the center of the solar system, but mass-conformity (leftism; dogma) at the time made it difficult for this truth to arise. And this is easily seen with billythecoward, who never denies that he is a leftist and who meets all of the left's dysgenic symptoms. Whenever billythecoward attempts an "argument", he does so by looking for the mass-consensus *rather* than evaluating sources and reality for himself. Leftism means conformism, and when the left is in charge of "truth"-making apparatuses, this conformism is not to the truth but to left-wing dogma. This is how the left can lie about what a woman is or lie about "trans" people. The left simply are not based in reality.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 13 21:39:27 Not my problem that you can't keep track of the prior posts wtb
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 21:42:34 Still no source, eh liar?
williamthebastard rank	Sat Sep 13 21:43:16 Youre not political, youre a liar.
obaminated rank	Sat Sep 13 21:45:48 Lol, is fagfish literally denying what the news is reporting? Do you not read the news at all?
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Sep 13 21:54:07 He's literally retarded.
Cherub Cow rank	Sun Sep 14 00:01:58 Forgot to post these, but "Grey Hughes Investigations" is a great channel for getting details on active cases like this. He charted out the location and route of the shooter from the scene (no gore; sfw): Video 1: (day of shooting) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8b7uNLxmbM • shooter videoed on the roof by students before the shot; they weren't sure who to contact and didn't end up having time • shooter easily accessed roof; it's level with surrounding walk-ways and divided only be a short barrier between walkway and tar area; no security in that area; security was localized directly around Kirk and entry to the direct viewing area • shooter ran immediately after shot Video 2: (September 11th) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4KYDYJljdw • recap of Video 1, • FBI's initial statement and FBI timeline of events • Details on the weapon abandoned in the woods nearby; bolt-action rifle • shooter fled by foot into a neighborhood • images of shooter before getting into position • FBI has his prints on-scene at various points of his flight from the area • FBI field-office representative calls this an attack on the 1st Amendment Video 3: (September 12th) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqvUjRUnjYo • Full route taken by shooter minus getaway vehicle • Shooter's route *to* campus (pre-shoot) through neighborhood on Ring door cam; TMZ-obtained footage • Shooter has backpack to conceal rifle; possibly had to conceal portion of rifle in pants (is limping out of necessity rather than subterfuge) • Shooter went prone on the roof; had plenty of time to sight-in; extremely easy to make a prone shot with a rifle at that distance • Video of shooter jumping from roof (post-shoot) to make a direct route back into the neighborhood • TMZ-obtained footage of shooter running back into neighborhood (post-shoot) Video 4: (September 12th) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9__c7HNc-To • Probable cause document / mug shot • Includes FBI's documentation of the writings that the shooter put on the rifle casings • FBI documents family statements of the shooter, with the shooter using left-wing coded descriptions of Kirk, such as that he is "full of hate" and "spreading hate" (for reference, it is typically only leftists who believe that "hate speech" is even a thing. Some low-information Right-wing people sometimes can be seen using the phrase, but this is not the case here.) • Shooter might be retarded (not literally) because he used Discord to tell his roommate to retrieve the rifle. This is incredibly stupid because entire areas are canvassed after things like this. They'd literally drag every body of water near any presumed escape routes, so thinking that a rifle could be retrieved after-the-fact in such a heavily surveilled area is just tard logic. • This also reveals that his transgender roommate (male to female) is likely an accomplice. New York Post did call his roommate his "partner" (i.e., sexual partner). This puts to bed any theory that might presume that his roommate was just some person he didn't know well, like in a rent-sharing arrangement; he trusted this person to help him commit a major crime. • Images of his house; he fled by car about 300 miles Video 5: (September 13th) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbICt0JdTHE • Shows how shooter handled the rifle, confirming some previous details • Rifle partially disassembled during approach; part in backpack, part in pants • Assembled before shoot • Left assembled while fleeing • Ditched in the woods
Dukhat rank	Sun Sep 14 01:05:13 Forwyn is the real faggot
Dukhat rank	Sun Sep 14 01:05:38 Taking it up the ass from rich white men has made him such a cuck, he votes for them too
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