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murder
rank Sun Mar 22 19:08:51
Iran agrees not to attack the other gulf states or interfere with their commerce.

Gulf states agree not to base or host foreign forces and not to allow their territory (land/sea/air) to be used by foreign powers to attack Iran.

This doesn't seem that hard.

Besides Israel and the US, who says no?

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jergul
rank Sun Mar 22 19:25:28
Irain still needs the right to block vessels supporting belligerent countries. Nothing untoward. Just like the US habitually does. It could be resolved with a ban list of the vessels in question.

Israel, with US support is aiming for a landgrab in Lebanon. Everything south of the litani river. That is where I think the Marines are going. So sanctioning belligerents is frankly something we should all be on board with really.

Sam Adams
rank Sun Mar 22 20:55:16
Everyone says no. Most importantly in this case the UAE,Bahrain,Kuwait,Saudi, and the free people of Iran.

Sam Adams
rank Sun Mar 22 21:00:16
"Everything south of the litani river. That is where I think the Marines are going"

I love jergul logic. Look at all the data and come to be far the least likely option.

Habebe
rank Sun Mar 22 21:13:36
Again, unsure of the accuracy, but teports I read claimed MBS (Saudi) was fully in support of this.

murder
rank Sun Mar 22 21:22:58

I wasn't aware that anyone had proposed this. :o)

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murder
rank Sun Mar 22 21:25:48

There's limited benefit for Iran, since the US and/or Israel could still disrupt their shipping outside the gulf, but I don't see the other gulf states doing anything about that.

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murder
rank Sun Mar 22 21:27:44

"... the UAE,Bahrain,Kuwait,Saudi ..."

They are catching most of the missiles and drones and the US isn't protecting them, so I don't understand why they would oppose this.

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Sam Adams
rank Sun Mar 22 22:09:57
Why do you possibly think that the us isn't protecting them?

jergul
rank Sun Mar 22 22:13:29
Because they are protecting the US.

murder
rank Sun Mar 22 22:41:22

"Why do you possibly think that the us isn't protecting them?"

They are getting hit. They weren't getting hit before. That's the opposite of protection.

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murder rank	Sun Mar 22 19:08:51 Iran agrees not to attack the other gulf states or interfere with their commerce. Gulf states agree not to base or host foreign forces and not to allow their territory (land/sea/air) to be used by foreign powers to attack Iran. This doesn't seem that hard. Besides Israel and the US, who says no? -
jergul rank	Sun Mar 22 19:25:28 Irain still needs the right to block vessels supporting belligerent countries. Nothing untoward. Just like the US habitually does. It could be resolved with a ban list of the vessels in question. Israel, with US support is aiming for a landgrab in Lebanon. Everything south of the litani river. That is where I think the Marines are going. So sanctioning belligerents is frankly something we should all be on board with really.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 22 20:55:16 Everyone says no. Most importantly in this case the UAE,Bahrain,Kuwait,Saudi, and the free people of Iran.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 22 21:00:16 "Everything south of the litani river. That is where I think the Marines are going" I love jergul logic. Look at all the data and come to be far the least likely option.
Habebe rank	Sun Mar 22 21:13:36 Again, unsure of the accuracy, but teports I read claimed MBS (Saudi) was fully in support of this.
murder rank	Sun Mar 22 21:22:58 I wasn't aware that anyone had proposed this. :o) -
murder rank	Sun Mar 22 21:25:48 There's limited benefit for Iran, since the US and/or Israel could still disrupt their shipping outside the gulf, but I don't see the other gulf states doing anything about that. -
murder rank	Sun Mar 22 21:27:44 "... the UAE,Bahrain,Kuwait,Saudi ..." They are catching most of the missiles and drones and the US isn't protecting them, so I don't understand why they would oppose this. -
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 22 22:09:57 Why do you possibly think that the us isn't protecting them?
jergul rank	Sun Mar 22 22:13:29 Because they are protecting the US.
murder rank	Sun Mar 22 22:41:22 "Why do you possibly think that the us isn't protecting them?" They are getting hit. They weren't getting hit before. That's the opposite of protection. -
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