Utopia Talk / Politics / the great appeasers are talking

Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 13 15:21:39 Lol this moron isn't just talking. Hes talking about a plan for future talking. Like multistage talking. https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2043628699136749889?s=20 The ongoing closure of the Strait of Hormuz is deeply damaging. Getting global shipping moving is vital to ease cost of living pressures. The UK has convened more than 40 nations who share our aim to restore freedom of navigation. This week the UK and France will co-host a summit to advance work on a coordinated, independent, multinational plan to safeguard international shipping when the conflict ends.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 13 15:24:11 Restoring freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz was of paramount importance, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Monday. Lmfao
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 13 15:27:28 France will soon organize a conference with Britain to restore freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday. Rofl
jergul rank	Mon Apr 13 15:55:13 The only country we appease is the USA and I agree, we really have to stop doing that.
Average Ameriacn rank	Mon Apr 13 16:53:17 The US is self sufficent, we don't need arabian oil, although we should keep it. Europeans did not help us winning against Iran, now they stand on the side of the lsoers. They can do better next time, when we make Cuba great again.
Seb rank	Mon Apr 13 16:58:20 NaMBLA: You realise that the people who decide if the straits are open or not are the maratime finance and insurance industry - mostly based in Europe.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 13 18:11:52 No dumbshit. The people who really decide anything are the guys with ships and missiles. Not you talkers that's for sure. Why would you possibly think something so retarded?
Forwyn rank	Mon Apr 13 18:28:48 So incredibly European. "It's the insurance adjuster bureaucrats who decide who travels the Straits based on the risks of being blasted by a missile, not the people sitting in hardened bunkers threatening to blast ships with a missile." Lol, permanently ineffectual
jergul rank	Mon Apr 13 18:43:10 Lloyds lets stakeholders set premiums. The premiums in turn determine if a shipowner can profitably make a certain journey, or if it is cheaper to just keep the vessel in place if other options are unavailable. Its called marketplace capitalism. You can bypass that easily by offering State insurance at rates that allow for passage. What do you reckon? 1 ship in 50 might get recked? No problem, though getting recked with a full cargo of oil would easily cost the insurer a few billion dollars.
jergul rank	Mon Apr 13 18:46:21 The dude in a bunker deters shipping. He cannot physically stop 150 ships a day from using a strait. The risk he represents stops shipping a risk that is quantified and given a number value. We call that number "insurance premiums".
Seb rank	Mon Apr 13 18:52:28 Sam: Nah. They ain't going to consider the straits open until they get insurance cover.
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