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Rugian
rank Thu Jun 18 18:03:01
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth on Thursday ripped into NATO allies while announcing a new six-month review of U.S. troop deployments in Europe, accusing the alliance of being a “paper tiger.”

Hegseth told defense ministers at the NATO headquarters in Brussels that the review will ensure the alliance moves “fast and irreversibly toward Europe leading,” though he did not say if it will result in a drawdown of U.S. deployments to the continent. He said NATO allies “must step up.”

“President Trump has been very clear on this point for many years and over two administrations,” Hegseth said. “And for too long, NATO has been a paper tiger and a one-way street. No more.”

He urged the alliance to become a “NATO 3.0 modeled on the NATO 1.0 that won the Cold War,” adding that NATO’s framers, including former President Eisenhower, “always expected” Europe to take the lead. Hegseth claimed that under NATO 2.0, it drifted to focusing on “gender equity and climate change and defense austerity.”

Hegseth said the U.S.’s dues to NATO will be contingent on other member nations meeting their own respective defense spending targets. The U.S. will lower its dues if other allies “do not spend with urgency.”

Hegseth also blasted NATO allies for not supporting the U.S. in the Iran war, accusing them of trying “to drown us in arcane legal debates, or criticized us publicly for doing what they aren’t prepared or able to do themselves.”

“NATO lost its way,” he continued. “NATO 2.0 was an era of distraction, deindustrialization and demilitarization. It was an era of free riding, and those were lost years that we’re not going back to. And that’s why, at the Department of War, we’ve been so clear and so candid to restore NATO’s core military role and character.”

https://th...gseth-nato-review-paper-tiger/

Habebe
rank Thu Jun 18 19:47:10
I mean, NATO would be better off if it's more balanced.

Europe needs to step up.

A stronger Europe is honestly probably better off long term for the US anyway.

murder
rank Thu Jun 18 21:01:48

"... accusing the alliance of being a “paper tiger.”

Paper tiger says what? :o)

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murder
rank Thu Jun 18 21:03:58

This would be less laughable if we hadn't just been rope-a-doped by a middle power with no air force and no navy.

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Habebe
rank Thu Jun 18 21:24:32
Murder, The reality is we didn't lose militarily though.

They just didn't capitulate over getting bombed.

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Rugian rank	Thu Jun 18 18:03:01 Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth on Thursday ripped into NATO allies while announcing a new six-month review of U.S. troop deployments in Europe, accusing the alliance of being a “paper tiger.” Hegseth told defense ministers at the NATO headquarters in Brussels that the review will ensure the alliance moves “fast and irreversibly toward Europe leading,” though he did not say if it will result in a drawdown of U.S. deployments to the continent. He said NATO allies “must step up.” “President Trump has been very clear on this point for many years and over two administrations,” Hegseth said. “And for too long, NATO has been a paper tiger and a one-way street. No more.” He urged the alliance to become a “NATO 3.0 modeled on the NATO 1.0 that won the Cold War,” adding that NATO’s framers, including former President Eisenhower, “always expected” Europe to take the lead. Hegseth claimed that under NATO 2.0, it drifted to focusing on “gender equity and climate change and defense austerity.” Hegseth said the U.S.’s dues to NATO will be contingent on other member nations meeting their own respective defense spending targets. The U.S. will lower its dues if other allies “do not spend with urgency.” Hegseth also blasted NATO allies for not supporting the U.S. in the Iran war, accusing them of trying “to drown us in arcane legal debates, or criticized us publicly for doing what they aren’t prepared or able to do themselves.” “NATO lost its way,” he continued. “NATO 2.0 was an era of distraction, deindustrialization and demilitarization. It was an era of free riding, and those were lost years that we’re not going back to. And that’s why, at the Department of War, we’ve been so clear and so candid to restore NATO’s core military role and character.” https://th...gseth-nato-review-paper-tiger/
Habebe rank	Thu Jun 18 19:47:10 I mean, NATO would be better off if it's more balanced. Europe needs to step up. A stronger Europe is honestly probably better off long term for the US anyway.
murder rank	Thu Jun 18 21:01:48 "... accusing the alliance of being a “paper tiger.” Paper tiger says what? :o) -
murder rank	Thu Jun 18 21:03:58 This would be less laughable if we hadn't just been rope-a-doped by a middle power with no air force and no navy. -
Habebe rank	Thu Jun 18 21:24:32 Murder, The reality is we didn't lose militarily though. They just didn't capitulate over getting bombed.
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