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Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump must sacrifice Vance to save face
murder
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Fri Jun 19 13:42:33
Pin the shit sandwich deal on Vance to get the stink off himself, because no one is buying his bullshit that this deal is a win.

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murder
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Fri Jun 19 13:46:50

Trump would literally be better off throwing Vance under the bus, admitting that it's a horrible deal, and walking away from the negotiating table and the Iran War with no agreement.

No deal > this humiliation

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Seb
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Fri Jun 19 14:59:57
What does the US walking away from the deal lol like though?

Iran will just start charging fees for straits access and rebuilding its missile and refinement capacity.

What will the US do: stop following through on commitments, maintain sanctions but ignore the fact Iran is also moving to status-quo-ante but with the US defacto accepting Iranian transit fees regime?

I can see that. (Though you call this a win when you apply it to your side of the 1812 war)

Reinstating the blockade and screwing the global economy? Unlikely. That also wasn't working and it fucks up too.

The humiliation is unavoidable at this point.

No deal as a cover for the US slinking away is possible. A resumption to full hostilities in the short term? Nah.



williamthebastard
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Fri Jun 19 15:02:25
Soon we can all get back to the Trump/Epstein files

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