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habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:19:52
Well, I was bored and just started putting some ideas to type. These are mostly general ideas lacking specific details. I'm still on the fence about some, but here is what I came up with.

HABEBE FOR PRESIDENT

1. I would end tax breaks for foreigners for the first seven years. Instead I would give the tax break to natural born American citizens. Also The same would go for all NBAC's who start a small bussiness, this would be a one time per person thing. Obviously it woulod have to be checked over to prevent loop holes. This may or may not be limited to specific types of bussinesses.

2. I would introduce a tort reform on healthcare malpractice suits similar to the system we have with car insurance.

3. I would support tax incentives to healthcare facilities that increase the health quality of their patients, and prevent poor health. Admittedly this needs alot of research into HOW this would work.

4. I support "HC spending accounts" so that people would be more carefull about wastefull uses of government funds.

5. I would cut the red tape on new drug developments, with the only exception being that people must be given what sort of research went into the drug. For example, if a drug was tested for only 6 years, it must say this.

6. I would all but abolish the federal reserve chairmen, instead I'd put in place a mechanical mechanism. The Chairmen would then become the "supervisor" of the system for crisis control as sometimes "unsound" economic policy is beneficial when the short-term supercedes the long term.

7. I would take the power of the public schools away from the teachers, and instead give it back to the consumers (parents) by allowing all parents allowed to democratically vote on curriculum changes, as well as be allowed to introduce changes.

8. Now this idea is still in it's infancy. For higher education I've been thinking of a system where a persons abilities/potential would evaluated and on that x amount of dollars for higher education would be awarded (vocational, college, etc.) but instead of just paying off a loan if/when they got the higher paying job x% of their new higher paying job for x amount of time would be paid back to the "purchaser" of the loan. These loans would be sold of as semi-short term investments. This way people who invest in other peoples education would share in the wealth earned from that investment, this will not only provide more incentive but off-set the few losses of those who do not pass or get a better job.IMHO this would also cut out those people who study BS acedemics at taxpayers expense.

9. I would end all sales taxes on oil/gas etc. Cheaper fuel/energy is a no brainer to how this benefits the economy.

10. I would end all subsidies to BS inneficent fuels such as ethanol. But put "bounties" on anyone who could come up with worthwhile alternative fuels/improvements etc.

11. I would support a plan decriminalize all narcotics (gradually). Instead opting for Doctors to prescribe them for recreational use, but make sure that Doctors will not profit from getting more people to partake (as is the case with certain pharmecuticals today). This would do MANY positive things.

a. Cut out the black market for these drugs. This takes away financing to criminal orginazations. Also it is the trafficking* is where the problems with gangwars, murders etc. Proper care in methods of production reduces the problem of drug lab waste/explosions.

b. This would get rid of the "unknown cuts" in the narcotics that could be harmfull . Doctors could also help minimize the negative side effects of such drugs and be helpfull to those who want to quit. (a dealer will not let help their customer quit)

c. This would take a large load off of the overcrowed prisons. Many people also forget of all of the lost productivity of people while incarcerated and who have a problem getting a job with a criminal record.

Rugian
Member Wed Oct 29 20:22:13
You need to be assassinated.

yankeessuck123
Member Wed Oct 29 20:28:16
5/11

1 point given to ideas I like, 0 to ones I don't, and 0.5 to ones I'm either unsure about or I just don't understand what you're saying.

habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:31:21
If anyone has the heart or the testicular fortitude, come and get me.

I've had several death/near death experiences and came out on top. I've had a stoke, I almost drown in a canoe accident. I've been hit by two cars. Nearly strangled to death and stabbed with a broken shard of glass. I had a biker gang member plott to shoot me. I also nearly suffocated numerous times as I suffered from "croup" until I was 7-8 years old (normally it is only an infant-toddler disease)

habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:42:01
Only the good die young.

"8. Now this idea is still in it's infancy. For higher education I've been thinking of a system where a persons abilities/potential would evaluated and on that x amount of dollars for higher education would be awarded (vocational, college, etc.) but instead of just paying off a loan if/when they got the higher paying job x% of their new higher paying job for x amount of time would be paid back to the "purchaser" of the loan. These loans would be sold of as semi-short term investments. This way people who invest in other peoples education would share in the wealth earned from that investment, this will not only provide more incentive but off-set the few losses of those who do not pass or get a better job.IMHO this would also cut out those people who study BS acedemics at taxpayers expense. "

This is rather complicated, and hard to understand in this format. So to sum it up.

Someone applying for higher education loans from the government would be assesed for their potential. Lets say (for sake of simplicity) Bill wants to be a Doctor. He is allotted 75k to spend towards his education. This loan would be sold similar to securities through banks. After he graduated he would pay 5% of his now higher earnings on top of the loan. This gives incentive to assist job placement.

I've been doing alot of thought on how to properly afford higher education.

habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:43:22
"After he graduated he would pay 5% of his now higher earnings on top of the loan."

For a few years.

yankeessuck123
Member Wed Oct 29 20:45:10
I think there would be a lot of opposition to the government essentially saying that all history majors, philosophy majors, women's studies majors, etc. are basically worthless.

habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:48:19
"10. I would end all subsidies to BS inneficent fuels such as ethanol. But put "bounties" on anyone who could come up with worthwhile alternative fuels/improvements etc. "

For those of you who do not know, Ethanol was a major blunder.

For starters it raised th price of corn throgh the roof, a well as livestock feed increasing the price of food in many areas.Less of other animal feeds were planted in place of corn as well, raising their prices.

It is also inefficent. It requirs carbon fuels to create it. It actually costs 130% of energy output to create 1 "unit" of ethanol energy.

habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:52:13
"I think there would be a lot of opposition to the government essentially saying that all history majors, philosophy majors, women's studies majors, etc. are basically worthless. "

The beauty of this is that, the "government" would follow the market, if their is a market for people to buy such loans for those careers, they get their funding. This I think would spawn more private institutions doing the same, not one person would have to foot the bill, it would be spread out so that people would invest what they could and possibly profit. It seems win win to me.

Eikeys Ghost
Sports Mod Wed Oct 29 20:59:31
If Eikey was president:

Disband congress for 6-12 months. apply libertarian policies to the budget. In the absence of the criminals in congress, I will eliminate 75% of the budget, including overseas offense.

I will get America back to the basics of America.

take that.

habebe
Member Wed Oct 29 20:59:47
PHILLY wins iT Aty hOME!!!!!!!

BushIsDaBestPresid
Member Wed Oct 29 21:02:37
"women's studies"

is dat wear thay lern how 2 handel cok

Borthas
Member Wed Oct 29 21:12:33
So most if not all of what you plan is not actually part of what the president has the power to do?

Eikeys Ghost
Sports Mod Wed Oct 29 21:25:14
"So most if not all of what you plan is not actually part of what the president has the power to do? "

Bush has pretty much established what the president can and can't do. And as far as I see... The president can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. And if I want to send the criminal Congress home to fix the country, I'll damn well do it. The states can re-elect congressional persons after I fix the country, but until then. I WILL reduce the size of government to 10% of its current size.

murder inc
Member Wed Oct 29 22:28:34

"1. I would end tax breaks for foreigners for the first seven years. Instead I would give the tax break to natural born American citizens."

habebe: It took exactly 1 proposal to prove that you have no business in office.

This is America damn it! We don't punish immigrants. We punish financial success. :oP

yankeessuck123
Member Wed Oct 29 22:43:37
Eikey for 'temporary' dictator? I do think not. Firstly, fuck dictators in general. And second, how many dictators actually give back their power once they have it? Yeah.

habebe
Member Thu Oct 30 05:33:05
"So most if not all of what you plan is not actually part of what the president has the power to do? "

Not by himself. But he can push an agenda.Mmost of what the real candidates said by that standard is impossible.

Broad street (philly) got cleared out by the fucking cops way too early.

Stone
Member Thu Oct 30 06:36:41
"9. I would end all sales taxes on oil/gas etc. Cheaper fuel/energy is a no brainer to how this benefits the economy. "

This would lead to more consumption of oil and gas, which you have to import. This would mean more money for arabs and less for americans. It would hurt your economy.

Eikeys Ghost
Sports Mod Thu Oct 30 10:04:06
"Eikey for 'temporary' dictator? I do think not. Firstly, fuck dictators in general. And second, how many dictators actually give back their power once they have it? Yeah."

imposing term(inating term) limits on congress, and then bringing them back after I fix the budget is hardly dictatorship.

Plus I lack the ambition to be a for life president. 4 years of an invisible hand in an iron gauntlet is just what this country needs.

And I'm sure you'd appreciate the almost instantaneous 7 dollar an hour raise you would/should get when buisness doesn't have to spend that on government compliance.

habebe
Member Thu Oct 30 16:18:22
"This would lead to more consumption of oil and gas, which you have to import. This would mean more money for arabs and less for americans. It would hurt your economy. "

Your going to have to elaborate more on that. Just because Arabs get money does not mean that this is a bad thing for our economy.

Also we import most our oil from Canada AFAIK. As for middle-eastern oil the largest US supplier is Saudi-Arabia. SA is our 2nd best ally in the region.

Lower fuel prices means cheaper shipment of products. It also means more money that can be spend elsewhere in the economy.

habebe
Member Fri Oct 31 01:56:17
Something to add.

I think it was foolish to label greenhouse gases made by humans as "pollution" since these very same gases are naturally made and then are not considered pollution, it either is or it isn't. Considering that 95% of greenhouse gases are formed by things like the ocean I don't see that as pollution.

I understand that GW is a serious issue and should be addressed appropriatley, but things like Kyoto just seem silly/unneffective to me. We have the technology to limit global warming through science, but wreaking havoc on our economies so that we may have a tiny (probably insignifacant) change seems counterproductive.

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habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:19:52 Well, I was bored and just started putting some ideas to type. These are mostly general ideas lacking specific details. I'm still on the fence about some, but here is what I came up with. HABEBE FOR PRESIDENT 1. I would end tax breaks for foreigners for the first seven years. Instead I would give the tax break to natural born American citizens. Also The same would go for all NBAC's who start a small bussiness, this would be a one time per person thing. Obviously it woulod have to be checked over to prevent loop holes. This may or may not be limited to specific types of bussinesses. 2. I would introduce a tort reform on healthcare malpractice suits similar to the system we have with car insurance. 3. I would support tax incentives to healthcare facilities that increase the health quality of their patients, and prevent poor health. Admittedly this needs alot of research into HOW this would work. 4. I support "HC spending accounts" so that people would be more carefull about wastefull uses of government funds. 5. I would cut the red tape on new drug developments, with the only exception being that people must be given what sort of research went into the drug. For example, if a drug was tested for only 6 years, it must say this. 6. I would all but abolish the federal reserve chairmen, instead I'd put in place a mechanical mechanism. The Chairmen would then become the "supervisor" of the system for crisis control as sometimes "unsound" economic policy is beneficial when the short-term supercedes the long term. 7. I would take the power of the public schools away from the teachers, and instead give it back to the consumers (parents) by allowing all parents allowed to democratically vote on curriculum changes, as well as be allowed to introduce changes. 8. Now this idea is still in it's infancy. For higher education I've been thinking of a system where a persons abilities/potential would evaluated and on that x amount of dollars for higher education would be awarded (vocational, college, etc.) but instead of just paying off a loan if/when they got the higher paying job x% of their new higher paying job for x amount of time would be paid back to the "purchaser" of the loan. These loans would be sold of as semi-short term investments. This way people who invest in other peoples education would share in the wealth earned from that investment, this will not only provide more incentive but off-set the few losses of those who do not pass or get a better job.IMHO this would also cut out those people who study BS acedemics at taxpayers expense. 9. I would end all sales taxes on oil/gas etc. Cheaper fuel/energy is a no brainer to how this benefits the economy. 10. I would end all subsidies to BS inneficent fuels such as ethanol. But put "bounties" on anyone who could come up with worthwhile alternative fuels/improvements etc. 11. I would support a plan decriminalize all narcotics (gradually). Instead opting for Doctors to prescribe them for recreational use, but make sure that Doctors will not profit from getting more people to partake (as is the case with certain pharmecuticals today). This would do MANY positive things. a. Cut out the black market for these drugs. This takes away financing to criminal orginazations. Also it is the trafficking* is where the problems with gangwars, murders etc. Proper care in methods of production reduces the problem of drug lab waste/explosions. b. This would get rid of the "unknown cuts" in the narcotics that could be harmfull . Doctors could also help minimize the negative side effects of such drugs and be helpfull to those who want to quit. (a dealer will not let help their customer quit) c. This would take a large load off of the overcrowed prisons. Many people also forget of all of the lost productivity of people while incarcerated and who have a problem getting a job with a criminal record.
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 29 20:22:13 You need to be assassinated.
yankeessuck123 Member	Wed Oct 29 20:28:16 5/11 1 point given to ideas I like, 0 to ones I don't, and 0.5 to ones I'm either unsure about or I just don't understand what you're saying.
habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:31:21 If anyone has the heart or the testicular fortitude, come and get me. I've had several death/near death experiences and came out on top. I've had a stoke, I almost drown in a canoe accident. I've been hit by two cars. Nearly strangled to death and stabbed with a broken shard of glass. I had a biker gang member plott to shoot me. I also nearly suffocated numerous times as I suffered from "croup" until I was 7-8 years old (normally it is only an infant-toddler disease)
habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:42:01 Only the good die young. "8. Now this idea is still in it's infancy. For higher education I've been thinking of a system where a persons abilities/potential would evaluated and on that x amount of dollars for higher education would be awarded (vocational, college, etc.) but instead of just paying off a loan if/when they got the higher paying job x% of their new higher paying job for x amount of time would be paid back to the "purchaser" of the loan. These loans would be sold of as semi-short term investments. This way people who invest in other peoples education would share in the wealth earned from that investment, this will not only provide more incentive but off-set the few losses of those who do not pass or get a better job.IMHO this would also cut out those people who study BS acedemics at taxpayers expense. " This is rather complicated, and hard to understand in this format. So to sum it up. Someone applying for higher education loans from the government would be assesed for their potential. Lets say (for sake of simplicity) Bill wants to be a Doctor. He is allotted 75k to spend towards his education. This loan would be sold similar to securities through banks. After he graduated he would pay 5% of his now higher earnings on top of the loan. This gives incentive to assist job placement. I've been doing alot of thought on how to properly afford higher education.
habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:43:22 "After he graduated he would pay 5% of his now higher earnings on top of the loan." For a few years.
yankeessuck123 Member	Wed Oct 29 20:45:10 I think there would be a lot of opposition to the government essentially saying that all history majors, philosophy majors, women's studies majors, etc. are basically worthless.
habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:48:19 "10. I would end all subsidies to BS inneficent fuels such as ethanol. But put "bounties" on anyone who could come up with worthwhile alternative fuels/improvements etc. " For those of you who do not know, Ethanol was a major blunder. For starters it raised th price of corn throgh the roof, a well as livestock feed increasing the price of food in many areas.Less of other animal feeds were planted in place of corn as well, raising their prices. It is also inefficent. It requirs carbon fuels to create it. It actually costs 130% of energy output to create 1 "unit" of ethanol energy.
habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:52:13 "I think there would be a lot of opposition to the government essentially saying that all history majors, philosophy majors, women's studies majors, etc. are basically worthless. " The beauty of this is that, the "government" would follow the market, if their is a market for people to buy such loans for those careers, they get their funding. This I think would spawn more private institutions doing the same, not one person would have to foot the bill, it would be spread out so that people would invest what they could and possibly profit. It seems win win to me.
Eikeys Ghost Sports Mod	Wed Oct 29 20:59:31 If Eikey was president: Disband congress for 6-12 months. apply libertarian policies to the budget. In the absence of the criminals in congress, I will eliminate 75% of the budget, including overseas offense. I will get America back to the basics of America. take that.
habebe Member	Wed Oct 29 20:59:47 PHILLY wins iT Aty hOME!!!!!!!
BushIsDaBestPresid Member	Wed Oct 29 21:02:37 "women's studies" is dat wear thay lern how 2 handel cok
Borthas Member	Wed Oct 29 21:12:33 So most if not all of what you plan is not actually part of what the president has the power to do?
Eikeys Ghost Sports Mod	Wed Oct 29 21:25:14 "So most if not all of what you plan is not actually part of what the president has the power to do? " Bush has pretty much established what the president can and can't do. And as far as I see... The president can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. And if I want to send the criminal Congress home to fix the country, I'll damn well do it. The states can re-elect congressional persons after I fix the country, but until then. I WILL reduce the size of government to 10% of its current size.
murder inc Member	Wed Oct 29 22:28:34 "1. I would end tax breaks for foreigners for the first seven years. Instead I would give the tax break to natural born American citizens." habebe: It took exactly 1 proposal to prove that you have no business in office. This is America damn it! We don't punish immigrants. We punish financial success. :oP
yankeessuck123 Member	Wed Oct 29 22:43:37 Eikey for 'temporary' dictator? I do think not. Firstly, fuck dictators in general. And second, how many dictators actually give back their power once they have it? Yeah.
habebe Member	Thu Oct 30 05:33:05 "So most if not all of what you plan is not actually part of what the president has the power to do? " Not by himself. But he can push an agenda.Mmost of what the real candidates said by that standard is impossible. Broad street (philly) got cleared out by the fucking cops way too early.
Stone Member	Thu Oct 30 06:36:41 "9. I would end all sales taxes on oil/gas etc. Cheaper fuel/energy is a no brainer to how this benefits the economy. " This would lead to more consumption of oil and gas, which you have to import. This would mean more money for arabs and less for americans. It would hurt your economy.
Eikeys Ghost Sports Mod	Thu Oct 30 10:04:06 "Eikey for 'temporary' dictator? I do think not. Firstly, fuck dictators in general. And second, how many dictators actually give back their power once they have it? Yeah." imposing term(inating term) limits on congress, and then bringing them back after I fix the budget is hardly dictatorship. Plus I lack the ambition to be a for life president. 4 years of an invisible hand in an iron gauntlet is just what this country needs. And I'm sure you'd appreciate the almost instantaneous 7 dollar an hour raise you would/should get when buisness doesn't have to spend that on government compliance.
habebe Member	Thu Oct 30 16:18:22 "This would lead to more consumption of oil and gas, which you have to import. This would mean more money for arabs and less for americans. It would hurt your economy. " Your going to have to elaborate more on that. Just because Arabs get money does not mean that this is a bad thing for our economy. Also we import most our oil from Canada AFAIK. As for middle-eastern oil the largest US supplier is Saudi-Arabia. SA is our 2nd best ally in the region. Lower fuel prices means cheaper shipment of products. It also means more money that can be spend elsewhere in the economy.
habebe Member	Fri Oct 31 01:56:17 Something to add. I think it was foolish to label greenhouse gases made by humans as "pollution" since these very same gases are naturally made and then are not considered pollution, it either is or it isn't. Considering that 95% of greenhouse gases are formed by things like the ocean I don't see that as pollution. I understand that GW is a serious issue and should be addressed appropriatley, but things like Kyoto just seem silly/unneffective to me. We have the technology to limit global warming through science, but wreaking havoc on our economies so that we may have a tiny (probably insignifacant) change seems counterproductive.
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