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Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 19:25:52 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOF89felo0E
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 19:26:03 2016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOF89felo0E
Rugian
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Sun Feb 07 19:36:07 2016
I'm sorry...I can't. That accent is absolutely unlistenable.
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 19:39:05 2016
http://nyh...x-crimes-in-central-stockholm/


Read it then.
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 19:40:18 2016
tl:dr

STOCKHOLM The Cologne sex assault on New Year’s Eve, where groups of Arab and North African men groped more than a hundred German women, has shocked Europe this last week. But a very similar incident, with a large number of perpetrators and victims, took place in the Swedish capital last summer. That incident however was silenced by large Swedish newspapers and media companies, despite repeated attempts from police officers to contact journalists.
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 19:44:02 2016
Then one of the newspapers who helped cover it up ran the story after Cologne took place about how corrupt the police are for silencing this last summer.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 19:46:05 2016
I'm not a racist, but... this makes me want to vote for fascists and neo-nazis.
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 19:50:12 2016
58% of Swedish voters want less immigration.


THAT IS RACIST!
-Paramount
swordtail
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Sun Feb 07 19:51:08 2016
"I'm sorry...I can't. That accent is absolutely unlistenable."

it's not so bad.
helps if you have swedish friends.
Rugian
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Sun Feb 07 19:54:32 2016
I am actually suffering through the accent and listening to the video. This shit with the media is way worse than I understood it. Swedish "news" is nothing but a narrative being fed to the general masses, that should be clear in light of the recent revelations. You should be extremely outraged that the news articles that you're reading are nothing but propaganda. When your journalists are actually conspiring with each other to decide which stories are worthy of attention, and which should be buried so that the general public never learns about them, that's hugely problematic.

And of course, nothing's going to change. Nothing's ever going to change. The current regime is favorable to the Swedish establishment, so no real reforms will ever be implemented, just like surveillance in the US. You're completely screwed here, your only recourse is to primarily rely on foreign media for your news.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 19:57:39 2016
"one of the newspapers who helped cover it up"


How is it that a newspaper can "cover up" a story? lol

A newspaper is not obligated to a publish particular story. There is no law which says that a newspaper has to publish everything that happens in the world.

If this newspaper "covered up" this story, then all newspaper are guilty of covering up all kinds of incidents. And the only thing we can do now is to vote for neo-nazis who will tell us the truth.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 19:59:10 2016
"When your journalists are actually conspiring with each other to decide which stories are worthy of attention, and which should be buried so that the general public never learns about them"


It happens everyday when the media is covering up for Israel's terrorism and crimes.
Rugian
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Sun Feb 07 20:00:21 2016
"A newspaper is not obligated to a publish particular story. There is no law which says that a newspaper has to publish everything that happens in the world."

It's called journalistic responsibility. It's not a crime to not cover a story, it just makes you not creditable when it comes to providing news in an objective manner.
Rugian
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Sun Feb 07 20:01:12 2016
"It happens everyday when the media is covering up for Israel's terrorism and crimes."

Is that why it's front page news in America every time a random Palestinian is killed in Israel? Fuck off with the Jew shit, aJ4a.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 20:04:37 2016
"It's called journalistic responsibility."

Right, and at the time when there is unrest, a lot of hate and propaganda, and violence directed at immigrants - it is responsible for journalists to not publish stories that may give more fuel to racists and fascists shitheads.
Aeros
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Sun Feb 07 20:06:32 2016
This migrant crisis is the greatest boon to the European far right then the great depression. Mainly because the traditional political parties have turned a deaf ear to what their people want, and the only parties that are agitating for what they want are the Fascist parties.

It is truly a sight to behold.
Rugian
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Sun Feb 07 20:07:57 2016
...


People like you are why I am so glad that America is not more like Europe. You're honestly disgusting, aJ4a. People should have a fundamental right to have access to information; otherwise we are left at the mercy of the people in charge. Disclosure is always better than censorship, you fag.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 20:14:59 2016
"People should have a fundamental right to have access to information;"


People have access to information.

How much information is US media "covering up"? Do you know? How much do they don't tell you?
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 20:45:56 2016
>>How is it that a newspaper can "cover up" a story?<<

You don't think the fact that Muslim men are raping and groping Swedish girl in droves is news worthy? Maybe read the story?
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 21:14:24 2016
I hold my position that the media's role is not to stoke the masses, who in this case are neo-nazis and other fascists and lost souls (lone wolfs) who sits behind their computer screens and getting all aroused at the thought of going out with a sword or knife to stab children who has brown skin or black hair.

I don't know, but this may be the kind of society where Rugian and Nimatzo wants to live in. I don't.

Media has a responsibility to inform the public of important things. They do not need to inform you every time a crime has been committed and especially not when when the social climate is what it is.

At least one rape story (in germany) has been proven to be false, so don't you think it is good that we have responsible journalists in Sweden who are careful about publishing these stories out of the blue? Why not wait to publish until a perpetrator actually has been convicted in a court of law?
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 22:05:15 2016
"I hold my position that the media's role is not to stoke the masses"

So you like fascism? You think the media should self censor "sensitive" topics?

>>They do not need to inform you every time a crime has been committed<<

90 muslim migrants boys groping Swedish girls is not "every time a crime has been committed.

You need to grow a spine.
Renzo Marquez
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Sun Feb 07 22:09:09 2016
If it was Kikeowitz's instead of Muslims, Paramount would demand publication of all crimes as trivial as jaywalking.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 22:44:28 2016
What is wrong with that all of a sudden? You are the ones arguing for it :)
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 22:49:34 2016
"I hold my position that the media's role is not to stoke the masses"

So you like fascism? You think the media should self censor "sensitive" topics?"



It is not fascism. It is responsible journalism.
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 22:58:36 2016
It is fascism pretending to be manners.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 23:00:22 2016
"90 muslim migrants boys groping Swedish girls is not "every time a crime has been committed."


I agree, but at the current social climate the media should not help to give more fuel to neo-nazi mobs and other people who might be willing to kill innocent people because of their ethnicity. Therefore the responsible thing to do for a responsible editor is to not publish. It is not your god given right to know everything. How many white men beated their wifes and children this christmas, and at every friday and saturday the past 100 years? Why don't the media write about that? Are they covering up something? WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW!
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 23:02:45 2016
>>people who might be willing to kill innocent people because of their ethnicity.<<

Has nothing to do with their ethnicity, but everything to do with their culture. How about you get the problem correct first?
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 23:04:54 2016
>>It is not your god given right to know everything.<<

Spoke like a true fascist, information should be controlled, by people with the correct political view.
Nimatzo
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Sun Feb 07 23:07:26 2016
>>How many white men beated their wifes and children this christmas, and at every friday and saturday the past 100 years?<<

Do we have a problem with gangs of white men groping women currently? Because we have historically had a lot of problems that we no longer have, however they have nothing to do with this topic.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 23:07:39 2016
Yes, but the racist who arms himself with a knife and stabs a random brown people, he stabs that person because of his ethnicity. He selects his targets based on their ethnicity.
Paramount
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Sun Feb 07 23:12:03 2016
"Do we have a problem with gangs of white men groping women currently?"

There was one at Köln, who grouped a female journalist. I'm pretty sure that young and old drunk swedish men also harass women, touching their asses and breasts, and far-rightists who threatens women with brutal rapes, etc.
pillz
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Mon Feb 08 01:10:00 2016
Were you born gutless or did sucking dick make you that way?
Aeros
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Mon Feb 08 03:49:15 2016
"I agree, but at the current social climate the media should not help to give more fuel to neo-nazi mobs and other people who might be willing to kill innocent people because of their ethnicity."

I doubt people want to murder all the Muslim immigrants. They do however want their governments to stop importing them and send the ones who have arrived back where they came from.

Europe is being invaded by its historical enemy. A culture and religion that has tried for centuries to subjugate and replace the west. It seems mind boggling that the biggest outrage seems to be coming from the United States and Russia then it is from Europe itself.
Cherub Cow
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Mon Feb 08 04:15:24 2016
Europe is the oblivious frog boiling alive — casual to the change — while the great USSR and USSA notice the water bubbling — sensing the threat!
Arab
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Mon Feb 08 04:33:46 2016
Grope = light touch on the ass probablly = "sexual assault"

And we know how much western women like to make false accusations, especially after a few drinks.

Pussified european societies bent to the will of females.
Aeros
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Mon Feb 08 04:40:06 2016
So what you are sayin',

now hol up

what youze sayin is that

Muslim men dindu nuffin, rite?
Arab
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Mon Feb 08 05:03:04 2016
No, these pieces of crap most likely did do a little groping - after getting heavily intoxicated and probablly some ecstasy.

In saying that, western women are notorious for exaggerating when it comes to things like this.

They dress like whores, get drunk, mingle with drunk males, and then complain when they get frisked a little.

And pussified european men buy it.
Camaban
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Mon Feb 08 06:47:55 2016
I do love Muslim's attempts to excuse this sort of thing.

It's like the only sort of male he's used to has the self control of your average dog.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 08 07:37:44 2016
People like paramount and WtB have for years systematically eroded Swedish values with their cultural relativism. And they exist on the right and on the left, the right is waking up, but as far as the left goes, this is their bread and butter. Identity politics resting on their theories of victimhood.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 08 07:44:00 2016
Arabs view of western women is not uncommon here in Sweden, it was common when I was young and it has not gotten better, it has obviously gotten worse.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 08 07:55:34 2016
The only thing that has happened since I was young is that Swedish society and media became better at ignoring it. Everything became racist and they started seeing fascist around every corner and behind every door. Just read some of what paramount and WtB have responded with in these threads. Standing up for Swedish values is racist and clearly you see connections with Hitler.

The only good thing is that the entire shitcastle is imploding. Not without making the word racism and fascism worthless however.
Paramount
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Mon Feb 08 11:26:31 2016
"Standing up for Swedish values is racist and clearly you see connections with Hitler."

When Nazi and White Power movements such as SMR, SvP, Nordisk Ungdom, and other racist street patrols, and SD, who has its roots in these organizations and are practically acting like an umbrella organization for the overall extreme right are "standing up for Swedish values", Nimatzo DOES NOT see a connection with Hitler.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 08 12:46:50 2016
I see connection with Hitler, Mossad you name it buddy. We need more "responsible journalism". Is it my god given right to know if the government is spying on me, or extraditing people to get tortured? I will say no, we need to protect society from all the nasty parts that might hurt peoples feelings.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 08 13:39:28 2016
These are the most important issues for Swedish voters. The parentesens is the change since the last poll. 58% of Swedish voters want less immigration, not zero immigration, they want less. This makes 58% of the Swedish population into Nazis.

1.Integration and immigration, 40 procent (+20)
2.Education policies, 18 procent (-10)
3.Job and employment, 13 procent (-10)
4.Healthcare, 11 procent (-7)
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