Utopia Talk / Politics / Mom marries daughter

Peter Walsh Member	Fri Sep 16 10:03:45 http://6ab...after-getting-married/1503541/ MOM, DAUGHTER FACE CHARGES AFTER MARRYING EACH OTHER DUNCAN, OK -- Police say a mother is in hot water after she married her own daughter. Patricia Spann lost custody of her daughter Misty Spann and two other children when they were young. The children were raised by their grandmother, and Patricia allegedly told police she didn't have any contact with her kids until two years ago. But when they were reunited, Patricia claims she and Misty "hit it off." Now both women are in jail on charges of incest after getting married earlier this year. In another twist, an investigation reveals Patricia Spann married her own son in 2008. Court records show Patricia sought an annulment for their marriage two years later. Both women are being held on a $10,000 bond. The District Attorney's office says this is one of the most bizarre cases he's seen in his entire career. In Oklahoma, incest is a felony and those convicted could spend 10 years in prison.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Sep 16 15:32:27 Is it just me or has Game of Thrones made incest the "in" fetish lately?
McKobb Member	Fri Sep 16 15:38:10 She marries her son first, annuls it, then marries her daughter five years later? This is all the gays fault!
hood Member	Fri Sep 16 15:38:10 Does incest between two women really matter? The reason it's taboo is due to reproductive reasons. Two chicks don't exactly have that worry.
McKobb Member	Fri Sep 16 15:41:11 I think it is also about power.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Sep 16 15:48:24 `Does incest between two women really matter? ' The answer to this question really depends on how hot they are.
The Children Member	Fri Sep 16 15:52:23 wtf is this wtf guess the race!
Hood Member	Fri Sep 16 16:38:35 http://www...-daughter-married-look-into-it That (not) hot, CS.
John Adams Member	Fri Sep 16 16:48:03 If I recall, Trump supports incest. haha.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Sep 16 16:53:21 "She marries her son first, annuls it, then marries her daughter five years later?" Sounds like woe full woo's family. He was married to his mom wasn't he?
Forwyn Member	Fri Sep 16 17:00:59 "In Oklahoma, incest is a felony and those convicted could spend 10 years in prison." Protect and serve! Just execute everyone involved, especially the officers who felt a need to investigate this, and the prosecutor who feels a civic duty to prosecute it.
Trolly McAwesome Member	Fri Sep 16 17:03:45 Forwyn loves incest. Must be a Trump fan.
Ork Member	Fri Sep 16 17:13:41 It wouldn't be very nice of him to have such hatred of his own parents.
Rugian Member	Fri Sep 16 18:44:23 Welcome to the state of marriage now that the gays can do it. Hope you're all happy, liberals.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 18:51:46 I blame straight marriage, actually, who even came up with the idea of two people forming a union? Everything was fair game after that, for any two people, at least
Hood Member	Fri Sep 16 18:56:48 Waaaaaaaaaah, my meaningless traditions!
Asgard Member	Fri Sep 16 19:39:39 the daughter is sorta ok the mother looks like a meth hoe.
Rugian Member	Fri Sep 16 19:40:19 ^A Jew referring pejoratively to Christian traditions. What a surprise folks
Asgard Member	Fri Sep 16 19:40:57 no, just referring to their looks.
Asgard Member	Fri Sep 16 19:41:18 I couldnt care less about their incest or lack there of
Hood Member	Fri Sep 16 19:45:46 ..... Did a christian just try to claim religious traditions over a jew? Are you serious? Yes, marriage is totally a christian tradition. After they took it from jewish tradition, of course. Nutsack.
Asgard Member	Fri Sep 16 19:47:31 After jews took it from mesopotamian traditions, who took it from some moon worshiping tradition, who took it from some Neanderthal tradition.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 19:48:50 "A Jew referring pejoratively to Christian traditions. " everything christian came from that Galilean jew. he is entitled
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 19:50:17 You know, I dreamed I met a Galilean, a most amazing man. He had that look you very rarely find, the haunting, hunted kind.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 19:56:49 It's amazing that assguard just said he found a tyranny attractive and no one mentioned it.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 19:59:18 "It's amazing that assguard just said he found a tyranny attractive and no one mentioned it." I didn't mention it because i was busy. That Galilean that I was talking about, I asked him to say what had happened, how it all began. I asked again, he never said a word, as if he hadn't heard.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 20:00:36 My mistake, I had assumed the boy looking girl was the son the mother had originally married only changed her sex to somehow get the marriage to last. As the daughters name is misty and the son isn't named, I'm betting that's what's going on here. But it's too early to shit talk assguard.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 20:03:11 hey mt, do you want to hear what happened next, with that Galilean i met?
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 20:08:39 Sure pal
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 20:09:06 Sure pal
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 20:09:48 ok, I'm gonna tell you what happen next. Next, the room was full of wild and angry men, they seemed to hate this man. They fell on him, and then he disappeared again. ask me what happened next
Forwyn Member	Fri Sep 16 20:14:27 "Forwyn loves incest. Must be a Trump fan. "It wouldn't be very nice of him to have such hatred of his own parents." Hurrrr. Rather, I don't think society has a compelling interest in shelling out ~$60k a year to house two women for the awful crime of boning-while-related.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 20:14:30 mt? ask me
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Sep 16 20:20:17 Yeah, ask CR. He knows all about incest.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 16 20:46:50 Sorry cr, I got busy, I'm back now, what happened next
Renzo Marquez Member	Fri Sep 16 20:48:47 #LoveWins bigots.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 20:53:29 "Sorry cr, I got busy, I'm back now, what happened next" Next, I saw thousands of millions crying for this man. And then I heard them mentioning my name, and leaving me the blame.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Sep 16 20:56:12 Alrite Pontius, calm down with the visions.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 20:57:57 I wanted to break out my Ciaphas, but ok
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Sep 16 21:00:49 May i just add one thing here? I see bad things arising. The crowd crown him king, which the Romans would ban. I see blood and destruction, our elimination because of one man. Blood and destruction because of one man.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 14:15:21 More incest! http://www...d-sex-son-25-article-1.2789385
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 14:18:30 "The mother and son, both of Asheville, were arrested last week and face felony incest charges — which could land them in jail for up to three years." WEW LAD! I feel safer already.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 14:36:49 Drink a few beers and that mom is pretty attractive. Her son must agree.
Cloud Strife Member	Sat Sep 17 14:44:03 These people all look inbred.
McKobb Member	Sat Sep 17 15:21:07 Allowing incest weakens the walls against pedophilia. Complete creedom is not a goal of society.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 15:30:15 "Allowing incest weakens the walls against pedophilia" Surely you have evidence to back up this bullshit.
Cloud Strife Member	Sat Sep 17 15:39:56 I didn't realize we needed to lay out the good reasons against allowing incestuous relations, but I suppose I'll do this. First and foremost is just pure gene-pool quality. Even modest amounts of 'moderate' incestual reproduction (1st cousins for example) lead to greatly increased genetic issues at a very rapid rate. One need look no further than all the genetic problems in the Jewish population which has consistently been small and married with themselves. This is not inbreeding in this typical sense, but does immediately show a weakening as a result of poor genetic diversity. In remote towns, there is already a pretty sad lack of genetic diversity, and the whole thing goes to Deliverance quick if you let the sister fuckers have their way. So obviously any sort of reproduction is just right out of the fucking question. This may be quite possibly the most easily justified use of eugenics as we know with absolute certainty that no good comes of it. Of course the reproduction itself isn't the only reason. If incest is legal or socially acceptable, you end up with a sad number of fathers boning their daughters and mothers boning their sons, and siblings fucking and the whole thing reeks of abuse as the notion of 'consent' is fucked up when you depend on people to support you and raise you, and you have an innate biological inspired trust with your family that could just get abused to shit. If daddy thinks he deserves to fuck every female in the house because he paid for it, that's definitely a wrong move for society as a whole. And yes, incest as a fetish is closer to pedophilia than a surface glance would reveal as the children we are most socially allowed to be around (especially for men) are our own, and incest laws are supposed to predict these children from their own lecherous kin. Children unfortunately suffer more from incestuous relationships compared to two 30 year old siblings who just said fuck it and boned or whatever.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 15:44:33 "Children unfortunately suffer more from incestuous relationships compared to two 30 year old siblings who just said fuck it and boned or whatever." Both of the cases in this thread involve 25 year olds. The rest can be summed up as modern eugenics combined with social engineering. Fuck off with your advocation of caging consenting adults.
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 15:46:51 It's really not a surprise that Forwyn is for incestuous reproduction.
McKobb Member	Sat Sep 17 15:47:10 If a parent sees a child as a potential mate then it increases the chance of abuse and power games in a family. A child might think if mother/father is fucking an older sibling why not him/her to get the same affection? This is not unknown among incestuous families. The one thing society does need to do is protect kids who are in the immediate control of parents.
Ork Member	Sat Sep 17 15:49:29 Forywn shall henceforth receive the title of "Sister-fucker" instead of MrP07. I knew he was fucking stupid, but holy shit...
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 15:55:13 It's really not a surprise that bootlicking fucks have no problem caging people for years for fucking each other, with no question of the actual reproductive capacity of the retards fucking.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 15:55:22 "First and foremost is just pure gene-pool quality." If you're responding to Forwyn here, fair enough. Personally, I've already stated my stance here as being about same-sex incest. Obviously anything relating to reproduction should not be allowed, as per what you mentioned. "If incest is legal or socially acceptable, you end up with a sad number of fathers boning their daughters and mothers boning their sons" If the children are under age, this is already illegal. No need for incest laws when the sex is banned for other reasons. "the whole thing reeks of abuse as the notion of 'consent' is fucked up when you depend on people to support you and raise you, and you have an innate biological inspired trust with your family that could just get abused to shit" If the child is old enough to consent to regular sex, they're old enough to have gotten past innate biological trust and make an actual decision. "If daddy thinks he deserves to fuck every female in the house because he paid for it, that's definitely a wrong move for society as a whole." Again, daddy should never be fucking daughter. That gets into the reproductive issue. But if daddy wants to take it up the ass from son, who cares (as long as son is consenting and 18+). "incest as a fetish is closer to pedophilia than a surface glance would reveal as the children we are most socially allowed to be around (especially for men) are our own, and incest laws are supposed to predict these children from their own lecherous kin" Again, sex with children is not legal, whether incest is allowed or not. Your objections seem to be wholly covered by age of consent laws. If those laws aren't preventing the abuse of children, why do you think incest laws are going to do anything?
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 15:55:50 It's really not a surprise that WoO is a fan of strawmen, fucking inbred idiot that he is.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 15:57:17 Insults are not straw men...
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 15:59:56 Strawman? You're obviously for incest - if you're for that, and ranting about how denying it is just modern eugenics and social engineering that prevents consenting adults from doing what they want - then you're obviously for incestuous reproduction. So yeah, try to back out of it all you want. This should be amusing.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:01:48 "Insults are not straw men..." Claiming I'm FOR something because I'm not an advocate of caging consenting adults IS a strawman. Try reading. "you're obviously for incestuous reproduction." You're obviously blatantly fucking retarded. Please follow the highway when you cut, don't cross the street.
McKobb Member	Sat Sep 17 16:02:51 Way too many motherfuckers in this thread!
Cloud Strife Member	Sat Sep 17 16:03:14 `Your objections seem to be wholly covered by age of consent laws.' I think theoretically, this is true, but practically I'm not so sure.
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 16:03:30 Then what exactly should the penalty be? You sound as if you're advocating no penalty. And what penalty does not infringe on their "rights" as consenting adults? This is your chance to explain your way out of your apparent support of incest. Let's hear it.
Ork Member	Sat Sep 17 16:06:47 I think Forywn is more concerned about spending thousands of dollars caging people for what he perceives to be a victimless crime. How about we just kill them?
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 16:09:36 Ork, I understand what he's saying, but my questions still stand.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:13:32 If you're really just arguing against reproductive issues, then force an abortion if it becomes necessary. Putting people in a cage for years for consensual fucking is pretty damned retarded, especially when its a same-sex relationship. And if we're going there, we might as well institute it for dual-obese couples, as well as dual-low IQs.
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 16:16:43 Again, what is a suitable penalty that will discourage incest (of any kind - for the reasons already mentioned by others) that will not infringe on their rights as consenting adults?
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 16:17:30 rights should be in quotes, of course - because they are "rights" according to you.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 16:19:56 "force an abortion if it becomes necessary" Wait, so people should be able to fuck relatives because freedom, but you then advocate for forced abortion... because freedom?
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:22:54 If your only argument barring social taboo and comparisons to pedophilia are reproductive issues, then yes, addressing that issue when it arises is vastly preferrable to caging both of them. One can hope that gene therapy will soon render the latter moot.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 16:27:29 It is infinitely better to prevent someone from fucking an opposite-sex relative than it is to enact forced abortions. Control over your body should trump just about anything else.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:31:46 Control of your body? In a cage? For fucking another adult? OK
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 16:33:30 Yes, cause that's what control of your body means.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:37:24 Except it doesn't. It means control of your uterus. It doesn't mean control of your penis, or your vagina, or the desired location of your body, or your preference to not have shackles on your arms. Nope, just control of a blastula.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 16:41:02 That's just a pile of stupid. I'm seriously considering changing my stance on a pair of chicks fistfucking each other if they're related based on how awful your advocacy here is.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 16:45:45 I'm seriously considering forced abortion as a legitimate policy measure based on how fucking juvenile your idea of bodily autonomy is.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 16:49:47 The stupid keeps piling on.
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 16:50:29 Goddamn...the stupid, it burns. Ok, so let's just clarify your position on all this. What would your ideal law look like regarding this? Right now, here is what I'm seeing - offer corrections as needed. (and we're leaving minors out of this, as they're already covered by other laws) Same sex incest (also incest where there is no chance of a child being born - gotta be careful here, plenty of cases where doctors have called having a child a medical impossibility and then a year later the woman is pregnant...) - no penalty, go for it Heterosexual incest - no penalty, go for it Heterosexual incest where the woman gets pregnant - forced abortion
Trolly Member	Sat Sep 17 16:52:16 Forwyn fucks his mother, LMAO!
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 17:04:14 I'm honestly not concerned about any of it. But yes, if you're that fucking worried that some inbred retards are going to ruin muh gene pool, then I hardly see how 5 years in prison is preferable to an abortion.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 17:05:41 "We're worried about genetic disorders compounding via incest, therefore we will imprison both adults, and if the female is pregnant already, we will put the child into the state system and care for it for life." Vastly preferable!
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 17:09:32 "I'm honestly not concerned about any of it." So when I said you are for incest and for incestuous reproduction, and you flew into a butthurt rage, you were just...acting out? Or what? You've now just said you're not concerned about any of it, which I take to mean you feel there shouldn't be any laws or penalties for it.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Sep 17 17:25:16 woe full woo sounds like his secret has been exposed, So he is all for this incest shit. Hey , did you call your dad dad or grandpa. Probably ate his mothers brains and liver when she croaked from pulling a train. That sure explains why he is so fucked up. He wins the title of #1 Pervert on this forum. Probably a lot of others.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Sep 17 17:28:03 *-too.
Hot Crack Member	Sat Sep 17 17:30:14 The hate is swelling in you now. Take your rod weapon. Use it. WoO is unarmed. Strike him down with your rod. Give in to your anger.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Sep 17 17:35:22 I feel nothing but pity for the poor incestuous pervert now. The poor bastard must be going through hell. Since you are one too hot crack, perhaps you can suck his cock and make him feel better.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 17:58:50 "You've now just said you're not concerned about any of it, which I take to mean you feel there shouldn't be any laws or penalties for it." Yes, I'm more concerned about caging people based on societal taboos while simultaneously preaching bodily autonomy - what an ironic crock of shit - than the occasional inbred retard ruining society. "you were just...acting out?" I take it you don't understand the difference between not caring about incest and not appreciating being called a supporter of incest. Until barely over a decade ago several states were still throwing fags in prison for sodomy. I won't be participating anytime soon, but that doesn't mean I want them caged.
Wrath of Orion Member	Sat Sep 17 18:10:52 I never said you practiced incest. However, if it was up to you (thank fucking christ it's not), you would not have any laws against it and would thus be an enabler of incest and incestuous reproduction. So yes, you are for incest and incestuous reproduction. Thanks for playing.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 18:29:35 I'd like to point out, one of the reasons incest should remain illegal is because a 20 year old girl, though legally an adult, is very likely to be financially reliant on her family while she goes to college.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 18:32:26 "If you don't advocate caging people for it, you support it. Thanks for playing." Good to know I'm also a stout supporter of drugs and hookers
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Sat Sep 17 18:36:03 womin r takin cok all da tiem 2 pay 4 there colege degre dus it mater if itz dadiez cock or sum randum guy?
Trolly McAwesome Member	Sat Sep 17 18:38:31 Forwyn loves anal sex with his mom.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 18:51:22 It is funny, the things you end up defending when you are a libertarian.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 18:55:05 It is funny, when retards conflate minimizing our world record police state for advocating objectively harmful behavior.
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 17 19:13:13 You are having an HR level meltdown. Walk away from your computer and come back tomorrow.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 19:19:33 That's a pretty juvenile response, not surprising because its a tired but dependable strategy - what amounts to a "umad?" is used to belittle a logical argument, in favor of a logical response. What you label a meltdown I call bemused leisure.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 19:20:37 If your name isn't Aeros, you've never caused me to have a visceral reaction to the shit you're spewing.
Hood Member	Sat Sep 17 20:18:39 "what amounts to a "umad?" is used to belittle a logical argument, in favor of a logical response." I'm fairly certain I've seen you use the term cuck. The height of hypocrisy.
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 20:37:38 I'm fairly certain it is coupled with an argument beyond, "take a break".
Forwyn Member	Sat Sep 17 20:43:25 Here I called Donald Trump a cuck, after remarking on his flip-flopping. http://www...hread=77956&time=1472076412990 Here I used cuck twice as an adjective, both in a thread titled with the word "cuckold", referencing a "cuck analogy" and a "cuck bombing". http://atarchive.gotdns.org:8080/UtopiaForums/boardthread?id=politics&thread=77944&showdeleted=true In both cases, these are flavors of the day used not as a substitution.
Trolly McAwesome Member	Sat Sep 17 20:44:56 Forwyn is truly a motherfucker.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Sep 17 21:18:06 Perhaps. Maybe you should keep your mother home.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Sep 17 21:18:30 -30-
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