Utopia Talk / Politics / OJ Simpson Parole Hearing 2Day

smart dude Member	Thu Jul 20 08:56:47 UNLOOSE THE JUICE
smart dude Member	Thu Jul 20 08:58:13 Streaming live on ESPN btw Last chance for bets. I say he goes free. Just want to see assholes FREAK OUT and CRY if he goes free.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 20 09:25:37 i see no reason he wouldn't go free, with all the 'model prisoner' talk
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 09:42:26 He got caught jacking it yesterday. Also, one doesn't become an asshole because they want to see oj in jail.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 09:46:02 I never thought he was guilty of murder. I think the cops framed him.
Rugian Member	Thu Jul 20 09:50:22 Yeah, the cops framed him by chopping his ex-wife's head into pieces. Thats some dedication right there. I did think it was bullshit how the family was allowed to change his book title to imply that he confessed to killing her. That was borderline libelous IMO.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 10:06:15 The two things that convinced me that he was framed were the blood in the Bronco and the bloody socks in the bedroom. There were just a few drops of Simpson's blood in the Bronco. And the bloody socks were found on the floor of his, otherwise, pristine bedroom. Couple that with the cop who left a vial of Simpson's blood in his car's trunk overnight instead of taking it to the property room as he should have. Half of the blood from that vial was missing the next day. That and it was said for him to have killed them everything would have had to go perfectly. I cannot imagine OJ doing anything perfectly except carry a football.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 10:23:58 Everything would go perfectly? Except leave a string of obvious pieces of evidence that prove he murdered them? What the fuck man.
TJ Member	Thu Jul 20 10:53:37 I suppose he didn't commit armed robbery either. He was just a victim accused of murdering two people. One out of two ain't bad for the justice system, eh? There are two unsolved murders on the books and I'd wager no one is making the slightest attempt in finding the guilty because the guilty was acquitted. The prosecution of the OJ case was horribly executed.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 11:10:33 Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Assuming inner city blacks would trust the LAPD to not set up an elaborate plot to frame a black man from "the hood" was the prosecution's biggest mistake.
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Jul 20 11:18:07 I hope OJ never gets out, because karma. I don't have a problem with him beating the double murder charge, I thought the system worked as expected, jurors were not convinced beyond reasonable doubt. But since I think that he did commit two murders, I hope he rots in prison forever, even on unrelated conviction. If he is granted parole though, it is again system working as designed, because if he meets all the criteria for parole, he should be granted parole. But OJ will fuck up again, because karma
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Jul 20 11:50:49 Don't forget that he is black.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 12:09:27 obaminated - Thu Jul 20 10:23:58 Everything would go perfectly? Except leave a string of obvious pieces of evidence that prove he murdered them? What the fuck man. I was speaking of the timeline only.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 12:11:00 In a perfect world he would be denied and then flip his shit for all the world to see. But doesn't seem to be going that way.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 12:12:38 TJ - I suppose he didn't commit armed robbery either. I did not follow this trial as closely as the first one. However, IIRC he did not have a gun. One of his cohorts did. The parole guy just said there were of his friends carried.
Rugian Member	Thu Jul 20 12:14:56 In a perfect world Nicole Brown would still be alive thanks to miscenagation laws.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 12:17:06 Well yes. She would have been protected from the juice for all the countless physical assaults he committed on her.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 12:19:47 You know, he does seem to kind of be passing off blame. It'll be fantastic if he screws himself over by giving the board a reason to deny him parole.
Aeros Member	Thu Jul 20 12:30:55 He probably will go free. He was stupendously over charged.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 12:35:32 Yeah. But fuck him.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 20 12:47:21 he seems like a boiling cauldron of rage at this hearing... just my opinion
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 13:13:22 So this victim turned juice supporter is in the running for cuck of the year, right?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 13:18:47 No, I see a man that is truly sorry that the situation occurred.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 13:20:56 Damn, I hate Geraldo Rivera.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 13:25:08 Who is surprised that HR, who has a professional habit of being on the wrong side on every issue, is again on the wrong side of this one.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 13:45:32 So says the person who thinks OJ is guilty of murder.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 13:50:34 Yes you dumbass.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 13:54:13 Freedom.
obaminated Member	Thu Jul 20 14:41:47 I guess scumbags like you and oj have to stick together.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 18:58:30 That's not nice. I explained why I thought he was innocent.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 19:08:07 How old were you when he was tried for murder?
Pillz Member	Thu Jul 20 19:09:51 Nice to CR's disregard for facts shine through here
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Jul 20 19:49:53 I'm sorry, your mom distracted me, my boi. Will you forgive me? I insist
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 20 22:08:06 So who is going to step up and refute me? Or are you going to rely on other peoples opinion?
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Jul 20 22:28:05 I'll step up, what am I refuting?
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Thu Jul 20 23:22:44 I never thought he was guilty of murder. I think the cops framed him.' He isn't in jail for murder, and at this point its irrelevant anyways. They can't try him again. He also won parole.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 06:41:19 Cthulhu is 100% correct. But, people that insist he is guilty of murder are a pain in the ass. Most of them were teenagers or weren't even born yet when the trial occurred. If the truth were known the only reason they think he is guilty is because he is black. I bet that none of them have seen the bloody socks or where they were found. The man was framed.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 06:50:55 Here are the bloody socks. You folks that believe he did must believe he committed a near perfect crime and some how reached the bedroom without leaving a trace of blood in the house and then left his bloody socks right there in plain sight while he scoots off to Chicago to establish his alibi. http://edi.../9-27/charts/socks_nostrap.jpg
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 06:52:37 I know the man is not very bright, but he really is not that stupid.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 06:57:41 Here is his oldest son. As you can see he is big enough to have done the deed. I have always suspected he was the one who did it and that OJ, if anything, was covering for him. http://sta...ns-son-was-the-real-killer.jpg
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 07:03:58 And here is the blood traces that was found inside the Bronco. Don't you think there would be more considering the bloodbath at the scene of the killings? http://d6j...rica/bronco-blood-evidence.jpg
Forwyn Member	Fri Jul 21 08:11:45 Just gonna point out that LAPD corruption and planting of evidence still don't rule out OJ as the perp. Both can be true.
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 08:12:23 "Here is his oldest son. As you can see he is big enough to have done the deed. I have always suspected he was the one who did it and that OJ, if anything, was covering for him." Hot Rod: So OJ couldn't have committed a near perfect crime, but his kid could? Did his kid also repeatedly beat up OJs wife?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 09:13:02 Forwyn, IMHO if the cops did frame him, as seems very likely to me, then that seriously weakens their case against him. It just seems likely that the evidence just was not there. murder, once again I was speaking of OJ's time line, Just about everything would have had to go almost perfectly for him to go from his home to hers, kill them and get back to his own home, get rid of all of the evidence except for the socks and still catch his plane to Chicago. The son would not have had the same time constraints. BTW, lots of men beat their wives without killing them.
TJ Member	Fri Jul 21 09:26:08 I guess I could be a pain in your ass and refute your theory of son as the killer or being framed by the police. Simpson's blood was dripped at the murder scene; a cap with hairs matching his was found next to Ron's and Nicole's dead bodies; one of Simpson's large leather gloves was lying between them; and the matching glove, still holding strands of the victims' hair and stained with their blood and Simpson's, was found outside his house. Size-twelve shoe prints, slightly pigeon-toed, were clearly stamped in the victims' blood, at the murder scene. Simpson is among the 9 percent of the population who wears size-twelve shoes, and he is pigeon-toed. Those shoe prints made an impression that was matched to one sole in the world--a Silga sole, manufactured at the Silga factory in Civitinova Marche, Italy, for the upscale shoemaker Bruno Magli. Photographs of Simpson wearing Bruno Magli shoes with the identical sole. Simpson's white Ford Bronco, parked outside his house, contained not only Simpson's blood but Ron's and Nicole's, and a shoe impression consistent with the Bruno Magli stained the carpet on the driver's side. A trail of Simpson's blood was dripped up his driveway, into his house, and up to his bedroom and bathroom. Planting of that blood was out of the question--because, just like the blood at the murder scene, it was found long before police investigators had taken any blood from his arm. Simpson had cuts all over his hands the day after the murders but had no reasonable explanation for how he got them. (cut by breaking a glass in his hotel room phooey) His socks were lying on his bedroom floor, spattered with his blood and Nicole's. Blue black cotton fibers consistent with a dark sweatsuit were found at both the crime scene and in Simpson's home,, linking him to both locations. Rare carpet fibers of the type used in his Bronco were found at the murder scene. His blood, his cuts, his clothing, his gloves, his shoes, his car, his house, his ex-wife's blood, Ron Goldman's blood ... all pointed to O.J. Simpson--and to no one else. Framed my ass... You clearly underestimate the intelligence of OJ. The killings were chilling, vengeful, full of rage. He is a very narcissistic man who controlled everything around himself with his celebrity and when he couldn't control Nichol he would physically abuse her. The police had been called nine times to the residence for domestic disturbances. He was convicted once out of those nine instances. Drinking unmasked the dark side of his true character(no pun intended). One more thing-> You are incorrect to say that most who believe OJ was guilty are young. Everything I've said is documented. I won't even go into the items found on Cowlings and OJ when he finally decided to give up on his highway escaped, as well as, the recorded dialog in an attempt to get OJ to ditch the gun. There was a distinct pattern of behavior in OJ's character. You have been refuted as far as I'm concerned and not simply with belief but evidence. I also watched the entire trial. OJ, to this day, is the same Jekyll and Hyde he has always been.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 09:42:45 I watched the trial very closely myself. Between not hearing of much of what you list as evidence there is a distinct possibility that much of it could have been planted. Sorry, I'm still not convinced. As for blood dripping up the driveway, there was a big to do about him climbing over a fence out back and making the noise that woke up Kato. And what happened to the half vial of blood missing from the cops car when he left it in the trunk overnight?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 09:49:50 Plus the son would have had access to the articles of clothing that belonged to OJ.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 10:02:01 In addition, I believe the glove was "found" in OJ's backyard by Mark Fuhrman.
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 10:02:13 "BTW, lots of men beat their wives without killing them." Yeah, and lots of men who beat their wives eventually kill them. "The son would not have had the same time constraints." The son also wouldn't have any motive. "Plus the son would have had access to the articles of clothing that belonged to OJ." You don't know what the son had access to. "
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 10:02:57 "In addition, I believe the glove was "found" in OJ's backyard by Mark Fuhrman." So?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 10:03:10 When he was ***ALONE***.
TJ Member	Fri Jul 21 10:04:14 I didn't expect you to be convinced. I was merely refuting your conclusions. OJ committed the perfect murder and he is forever free from his crime of passion. The half vile(disputed) missing blood was a distraction and as I said(documented)as taken after the evidence was collected. Remember he fled the scene. Like you are convinced I am also. No matter what, he was charged, acquitted, and what we think really doesn't matter at this point. He best leave the juice(pun intended)out of his reach. It is what got him into his armed robbery incident that allowed his conviction. He can't control his rage when drinking.
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 10:07:06 "When he was ***ALONE***." So?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 10:09:53 murder, he could have had lots of motives. I don't know what goes on in the minds of teen that I know. I would have no idea what went through the mind of OJ's kid back then. Not sure where the son was living at the time. As I said, I suspect him, but I don't know any evidence that connects him to the killings other than supposition.
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 10:12:25 "murder, he could have had lots of motives." There's no evidence of any as far as I know. And as a general rule, people don't kill people for no reason.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 10:13:09 Have you ever seen Fuhrman being interviewed? He exudes sliminess. Besides, the procedure at the time was for two officers to search an area together.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 10:15:20 murder - There's no evidence of any as far as I know. And as a general rule, people don't kill people for no reason. "As I said, I suspect him, but I don't know any evidence that connects him to the killings other than supposition."
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 10:27:35 So you favor supposition over evidence? There is no evidence against anyone except the guy who got away with it.
obaminated Member	Fri Jul 21 10:47:44 There is zero evidence, physical evidence that the son had any involvement whatsoever, yet HR, dipshit that he is throws it out there and believes he is making a valid point. Hr, you are absolutely stupid.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 12:16:01 Do try to pay attention guys. As I stated, I think some of the evidence was planted by the cops and I believe that OJ is innocent. That being the case my guess is the son may have done it because it appears to be a crime of passion. Crimes of passion frequently take place within the family. So I am guessing that the eldest son may have done it. ***I AM GUESSING*** Why don't you guys look up the word suspect so you will know what it means?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 12:20:04 BTW, you guys do know that when OJ flew back to LA from Chicago the very first thing the cops did was handcuff him. Why? Because he was a suspect.
obaminated Member	Fri Jul 21 12:22:23 So it was both a frame job and the murder was done by the son who left zero evidence behind. You are such a fucking idiot. If you has a shred of dignity you'd acknowledge that TJ thoroughly debunked your idiotic conspiracy theory with physical evidence and timelines. You are honestly useless.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 12:30:17 obaminated, if anyone is a fucking idiot it is you. I suspect the son ***MIGHT*** be the true killer. You are the only one saying the son did, in fact, do it. "So it was both a frame job and the murder was done by the son who left zero evidence behind." Your words, not mine. One more time, look up the word suspect so you will know what it means.
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 12:39:24 Hot Rod: I'm confused. On a probability scale of 0 to 100 with 100 being absolutely did it, and 0 being absolutely didn't do it, score the two suspects ... O.J. & Jason
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 12:57:07 OJ = 0 Son = ? SUSPECT: verb (used with object) 1. to believe to be guilty, false, counterfeit, undesirable, defective, bad, etc., with little or no proof: to suspect a person of murder. 2. to doubt or mistrust: I suspect his motives. 3. to believe to be the case or to be likely or probable; surmise: I suspect his knowledge did not amount to much. 4. to have some hint or foreknowledge of: I think she suspected the surprise. verb (used without object) 5. to believe something, especially something evil or wrong, to be the case; have suspicion. noun 6. a person who is suspected, especially one suspected of a crime, offense, or the like. adjective 7. suspected; open to or under suspicion. Now do you get it?
Hot Roid Member	Fri Jul 21 13:20:49 Btw, I'm just trolling you guys. OJ didn't do it.
murder Member	Fri Jul 21 13:47:21 Why is OJ a 0 if there's at least as much evidence against him as there is against his son?
obaminated Member	Fri Jul 21 14:47:53 Because hot rod is that stupid.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 17:53:05 Yur concept is stupid. I gave you my opinion. I am not privy to the evidence and that was over 20 years ago. I know this is really hard, but try. SUSPECT = to believe to be guilty, false, counterfeit, undesirable, defective, bad, etc., *****with little or no proof*****. e.g.: to suspect a person of murder.
obaminated Member	Fri Jul 21 18:08:35 Now I know why everyone else on this board wants you to shit the bed. You are insufferably stupid.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 21 18:21:48 Perhaps, but you need to take an ESL course to catch up to me. Maybe two.
smart dude Member	Sat Jul 22 01:07:35 Wow, Rod really zinged you with that "maybe two" comment at the end. Before that I thought it was going to be a lame insult. 9.5/10
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 03:42:11 sd, don't tell me you are as big an idiot as he is? You know what the word suspect means don't you?
chuck Member	Sat Jul 22 09:50:25 Does this pretty well sum up the thread? HR: "I liked that guy a lot when he played football and he was a hoot in Naked Gun. That's all the evidence I need. Not guilty." Later: HR: "But someone did murder those people though. His son looks 'big enough' to have done it. That's all the evidence I need. Guilty." This thread brought to you by Hot "People I remember fondly are saints and above suspicion and totally police patsies and it is all just one big misunderstanding you guys and no I'm not talking about Trump I'm talking about OJ" Rod.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 12:25:44 ^^^-idiot or fool or both?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 12:55:04 chuckie boy, were you glued to your TV during the trial and did you discuss it every chance you got or are you counting on hearsay? Just Curious. chuckie boy - That's all the evidence I need. Guilty. Let me reiterate the definition of the word 'suspect'. "with little or no proof..." If you are going to post in an English speaking forum you should learn new words when they are pointed out to you. BTW, evidence and proof are basically the same. Synonyms for evidence noun proof
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 12:57:19 In other words chuckie boy, I have zero evidence or proof the son did it. I merely suspect him of doing it.
obaminated Member	Sat Jul 22 13:14:27 "I watched a lot of tv but don't remember the facts or timelines, but I know more about it than you" hot "I lost a screwdriver so it must be a ghost" rod
Cold Rod Member	Sat Jul 22 13:31:01 OJ did it
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 13:51:42 I found the screwdriver Sir. Do try to keep up. Then explain please, how the bloody socks got into the middle of his bedroom floor without leaving blood anywhere else in his house, why there were only a few drops of blood in the Bronco when the killing area was a bloodbath and why Mark Fuhrman found the glove in the backyard when procedure dictated the area be searched by two officers together. Try this for Simpson's blood found at the scne. "Evidence for A Singular lead Contrary to popular belief, the idea that OJ Simpson was framed by racist police detectives did not originate with his expensive, all-star defense team. It actually came from a whistleblower within the LAPD itself. A journalist by the name of Stephen Singular was first approached about the OJ Simpson case just a few weeks after the murders. Singular, who had previously written a book about the murder of jewish talk radio host Alan Berg by a neo-Nazi group called The Order, was contacted by an anonymous source within the LA police with a disturbing story. According to the author's own Deep Throat, a faction of extreme racist neo-Nazi police officers was operating within the LAPD. More troubling still, some of them had planted evidence in the OJ Simpson case. LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman was exposed at the trial as a racist LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman was exposed at the trial as a racist Months before the trial and subsequent media storm about racism and evidence tampering, Singular was given some very specific information. Firstly, an LA police detective by the name of Mark Fuhrman openly espoused extreme racist views, boasted about persecuting interracial couples and even painted a swastika on the locker of a colleague who had married a jewish woman. On the night of the murders Fuhrman was one of the first police officers at Nicole’s Bundy Drive home. According to Singular’s source, the detective had used a piece of strict broken off the fence to pick up a bloody glove at the crime scene and place it in a blue evidence bag. Fuhrman and another detective then made an undocumented trip to OJ Simpson's house at Rockingham in the early hours of the next morning and dropped the glove behind a fence to the side of the property. It was Fuhrman himself who then subsequently found this apparently piece of damning evidence against Simpson. Singular was also told that a vial of OJ’s blood was in the possession of another LA police detective for several hours whilst he had free reign of the crime scene. This blood sample, which Simpson volunteered to police the day after the murders, was stored in an evidence vial with a purple cap, which indicated the presence of an anti-coagulant chemical called EDTA. OJ Simpson volunteered a blood sample to the police OJ Simpson volunteered a blood sample to the police Blood from this vial was then deposited at the crime scene and the bloody socks found in Simpson’s bedroom to frame him. It sounded unbelievable, and Singular was not sure at the time what to make of the sensational information. Subsequently, almost everything Singular was first told would be validated by what unfolded in the coming months. A stick and a blue evidence bag were found on Simpson’s property and entered into evidence, Fuhrman was outed as a genocidal racist and some of the key testimony about his actions that night were shown to be false. The famous photograph of him pointing at the bloody glove was actually shown to be taken at 4:30am, rather than 7am as Fuhrman and his fellow officers stated. That Fuhrman had made undocumented visits to the Rockingham house during the night was further bolstered by Rosa Lopez, a maid at the house next door, who told Fuhrman himself she had heard two men arguing at the property at 2am. Tellingly, Fuhrman failed to include this information in his report. Singular was told that Fuhrman had moved the bloody glove and planted it at Simpson’s home Singular was told that Fuhrman had moved the bloody glove and planted it at Simpson’s home Perhaps most importantly, Singular’s information about the blood checked out. Several pieces of the most important Simpson blood evidence was found to contain EDTA, strongly indicative that that blood was planted from an evidence vial, and did not come out of a human being during the execution of the crime. This blood evidence is still hotly disputed, and the prosecution spent a great deal of time at the trial trying to show the EDTA found in the crime scene blood was due to mistakes in the testing. But if that was truly the case, how could Stephen Singular's source possibly have known EDTA would be mistakenly found in the blood months in advance?" http://theunredacted.com/oj-simpson-framed-in-america/ There is a lot more in this article. This covers the highlights of the missing blood from 'custody'.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 14:10:53 Then please explain how a 47-year-old man suffering from two forms of artheritis and really bad knees could have killed two people in sucha violent manner who were much younger than he and in their prime. I had forgotten this part, but the next day they had OJ strip to his shorts and photo grafed his bod. The only injury he had was the small cut on his hand from broken glass in Chicago when he got the news. Here is a photo of Ron Goldman's hand. http://d6j...erica/ron-goldman-knuckles.jpg There is much more so if you know more than me then kindly explain these anomalies.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 14:17:19 "The only injury he had was the small cut on his hand from broken glass in Chicago when he got the news." There was no corresponding cut in the glove that he could have bled out of.
chuck Member	Sat Jul 22 17:07:37 I'm amazed by the mental contortions you're willing to go through to reconcile Saint OJ's innocence. "Then please explain how a 47-year-old man suffering from two forms of artheritis [sic] and really bad knees could have killed two people in sucha violent manner who were much younger than he and in their prime." Sure, a 47-year-old former elite athlete, five time pro-Bowler and *still* the Heisman winner with the largest margin of victory ever. What the hell is a normie going to do against a NFL-level running back with a knife? That out of the way, I've got a few questions: - What is theunredacted.com? - Why is it so important to you that OJ Simpson be innocent? - Why are you willing to throw his son under the bus without any evidence whatsoever? You "suspect" (which you helpfully defined for us as "SUSPECT = to believe to be guilty") he might have done it...on what basis? - And sooo many questions about "a faction of extreme racist neo-Nazi police officers": == NEO-NAZI??? BONUS ROUND == - Why would a "faction of neo-Nazi police officers" go through the trouble of murdering two extra people if they just wanted to take OJ down? - Why would a "faction of neo-Nazi police officers" come up with such a cockamamie scheme to frame OJ when they could just pull him over, yell "he's got a gun!" and shoot him? - Why would a "faction of neo-Nazi police officers" pick OJ Simpson of all people? There are plenty of prominent black people they could have picked. - Why did the "faction of neo-Nazi police officers" stop framing popular black entertainers and athletes after OJ? "Phew, that was a close call. We can never again risk exposing our secret neo-Nazi cabal. From now on we'll just sit around feeling Nazi feelings and leave it at that." ...and just so many other questions. So many questions.
chuck Member	Sat Jul 22 17:22:10 Also, Imma just leave this here. It's an approximately one page gem from a book I read recently ("The Drunkard's Walk - How Randomness Rules Our Lives", highly recommend): > The renowned attorney and Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz also successfully employed the prosecutor's fallacy -- to help defend O.J. Simpson in his trial for the murder of Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and a male companion. The trial of Simpson, a former football star, was one of the biggest media events of 1994-95. The police had plenty of evidence against him. They found a bloody glove at his estate that seemed to match one found at the murder scene. Bloodstains matching Nicole's blood were found on the gloves, in his white Ford Bronco, on a pair of socks in his bedroom, and in his driveway and house. Moreover, DNA samples taken from blood at the crime scene matched O.J.'s. The defense could do little more than accuse the Los Angeles Police Department of racism -- O.J. is African American -- and criticize the integrity of their evidence. > The prosecution made a decision to focus the opening of its case on O.J.'s propensity toward violence against Nicole. Prosecutors spent the first ten days of the trial entering evidence of his history of abusing her and claimed that this alone was a good reason to suspect him of her murder. As they put it, "a slap is a prelude to homicide." The defense attorneys used this strategy as a launchpad for their accusations of duplicity, arguing that the prosecution had spent two weeks trying to mislead the jury and that the evidence that O.J. had battered Nicole on previous occasions meant nothing. Here is Dershowitz's reasoning: 4 million women are battered annually by husbands and boyfriends in the United States, yet in 1992, according to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, a total of 1,432, or 1 in 2,500, were killed by their husbands or boyfriends. Therefore, the defense retorted, few men who slap or beat their domestic partners go on to murder them. True? Yes. Convincing? Yes. Relevant? No. The relevant number is not the probability that a man who batters his wife will go on to kill her (1 in 2,500) but rather the probability that a battered wife who was murdered was murdered by her abuser. According to the Uniform Crime Reports for the United States and Its Possessions in 1993, the probability Dershowitz (or the prosecution) should have reported was this one: of all the battered women murdered in the United States in 1993, some 90 percent were killed by their abuser. That statistic was not mentioned at the trial.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 17:27:16 sigh!!!
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 22 17:44:05 I don't believe OJ is guilty of the murders based on the evidence and I suspect his son did it. That is my position, believe what you want to believe.
smart dude Member	Sat Jul 22 21:45:49 ^trump voter
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Jul 23 07:15:37 Well, at least you got that right.
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