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Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 02 17:05:33
I think Trump just pooped in his diapers:


Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's tweet on Saturday about firing Michael Flynn from his position as national security adviser is garnering a lot of attention from critics -- with some calling it a possible admission of obstruction of justice.

Trump tweeted about Flynn's Friday guilty plea, in which the former national security adviser said he lied to the FBI about conversations he had with Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak during the transition and disclosed that he is cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller's office.

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI," Trump wrote. "He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"

The tweet immediately caught the attention of critics, who questioned whether Trump knew Flynn had lied to the FBI when the President asked then-FBI Director James Comey to let the investigation into Flynn go.

California Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, tweeted, "If that is true, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to fire Flynn? Why did you fail to act until his lies were publicly exposed? And why did you pressure Director Comey to "let this go?"

Walter Shaub, a former director of the United States Office of Government Ethics, also responded on Twitter to Trump's tweet, writing: "...just couldn't resist commenting on Flynn. Are you ADMITTING you knew Flynn had lied to the FBI when you asked Comey to back off Flynn?"

Walter Shaub, a former director of the United States Office of Government Ethics, also responded on Twitter to Trump's tweet, writing: "...just couldn't resist commenting on Flynn. Are you ADMITTING you knew Flynn had lied to the FBI when you asked Comey to back off Flynn?"

Shaub later added, "Tell us, @realDonaldTrump, did you know Flynn had lied to the FBI when Counsel to the President Don McGahn snubbed Yates as she tried to warn the White House Flynn had been compromised? Did you know Flynn had lied to the FBI when you fired Yates days after her whistleblowing?"

California Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu also reacted to Trump's tweet.

"THIS IS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE," Lieu tweeted. "@POTUS now admits he KNEW Michael Flynn lied to the FBI. Yet Trump tried to influence or stop the FBI investigation on #Flynn."

Former senior adviser to President Barack Obama, Dan Pfeiffer‏, tweeted, "If Trump keeps admitting to obstructing justice, Ty Cobb might be right that the Mueller investigation may wrap up sooner than we think."

Cobb is the White House special counsel overseeing the legal and media response to the Russia investigation.

More at

http://edi...firing-fbi-reaction/index.html
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 02 17:08:48
he's definitely guilty of obstruction... but this tweet is Trump's typical careless/inaccurate/ignorant/delusional/dishonest language
Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 02 17:10:34
So if he was obstructing justice, any chance they will lock him up?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 02 17:18:25
Trump would start a civil war w/ his mindless fans before ever accepting any judgment against him
Dukhat
Member
Sat Dec 02 17:40:07
Ignorance is a defense will be the trumpers last line of defense.

"How could trump have known. He's just a businessman not a politician. It's the establishment not even giving him a chance."
Dukhat
Member
Sat Dec 02 17:41:05
Ignorance of the law is not a legitimate legal defense but the trumpkins will use it as their last argument.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 02 17:45:32
Trump certainly has massive ignorance across the board, but he wanted Comey alone when asking him to let Flynn off the hook so he knew it was wrong

...& he has seemingly asked everyone in gov't to end the Russia investigation
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 18:01:33
It should be noted that Trump's tweets count as official record and can be used in court.

It should also be noted that if trump edits or deletes them, it could be construed as tampering with evidence or obstruction.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 18:01:34
trumpnothingburger.. the only time investors were spooked by the idea of trump conceivably being in danger was when abc started false rumor

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“California Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, tweeted, "If that is true, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to fire Flynn? Why did you fail to act until his lies were publicly exposed? And why did you pressure Director Comey to "let this go?"”

a.. flynn was only advisor for 24 days so talking about waiting “so long” would be ridiculous even if trump knew flynn had lied about anything from day 1

b.. the lies were about things that wouldn’t have gotten anyone in trouble if he had told the truth.. it’s like lying about what he had for dinner or lying about if he thought melania had a big butt.. the only people who deeply care about lying on such things and want pleas or prosecution are those who want antidemocratic witch hunt
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 18:03:13
"the lies were about things that wouldn’t have gotten anyone in trouble if he had told the truth"

Lying itself is illegal. But keep on polishing them knobs, fluffer.
Forwyn
Member
Sat Dec 02 18:30:17
"It should also be noted that if trump edits or deletes them, it could be construed as tampering with evidence or obstruction."

Not without a subpoena. No one is required to maintain every social media post on the off-chance that it would one day be investigated.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 18:30:20
copyright infringement is illegal but typical people do it regularly.. i suppose in your witch hunt world you would be comfortable selectively going after flynn for that [just like lying about what he had to eat]

the only thing he could have feared to make him lie.. is selective witch hunt prosecution of logan act for first time in its 218 year history..

the other possibility is that he didnt remember conversation in detail and just “admitted” lying so he wasn’t bankrupted from legal fees on this and on dealings with turkey they were threatening him with etc

any way you look at it it is a witch hunt tho.. you lying tranny obsessed lover
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 18:54:29

Lying to the VP is grounds for being fired. I fail to see how that is obstruction of justice.

Delude
Member
Sat Dec 02 19:37:08
"Not without a subpoena. No one is required to maintain every social media post on the off-chance that it would one day be investigated"

Except to the fact that the white house acknowledge these are official presidential statements. Therefore most likely archived. Doh!
Forwyn
Member
Sat Dec 02 20:05:48
Of course everything the President tweets is archived. Ergo, deleting them from Twitter is irrelevant.
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 20:14:07
"Not without a subpoena. No one is required to maintain every social media post on the off-chance that it would one day be investigated."

Government records are required to be kept, no exceptions.

"Of course everything the President tweets is archived."

By the office of the president? Or by someone specifically delegated to keep them? Having random citizens screenshot or twitter save them isn't enough.


I'm not suggesting that Trump would ever be prosecuted for it, just that it would undoubtedly be used against him in any potential court proceedings.
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 20:17:51
"you lying tranny obsessed lover"

It was what, a month ago, when you were pretending to be offended at an insinuation of calling you gay? Or is this your attempt at branding me, similar to how you are putin's fluffer?

Go for it, little roro. Your quips are completely lacking in originality and they hardly have a sting to them.



However, I would appreciate it if you actually, with quotes, pointed to where I lied. I know you won't find anything, but I'll wait.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 20:21:17

Doesn't twitter save all of the tweets made?

werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 20:28:28
obsessed tranny lover keeps lying about my sexuality in this thread duh
Trolly
Member
Sat Dec 02 20:31:01
oh werewolf dicktaster.
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:19:51
Please quote where I made any statement about your sexuality.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:31:55
you cant read your own posts

personally ive never attacked another poster for being gay [allegedly or not] until in response to you

on the other hand you [like one of those self-hating ministers who is really into trannies] started throwing at me constant vulgar homophobic slurs.. unprovoked by anything previously similar on my part.. and which similarity to self-hating ministers seems all the more fitting given that you do obviously and truly obsess over trannies
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 21:38:20

hood's last words on his deathbed will be that he wished that he had called werewolf dictator gay just one more time.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:39:47
wd does believe the Russian government shoots down meteors with missiles. Now that shit was hilarious.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:41:33
i also think wrath of orion is a genius who understands when people are joking
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 21:42:26

Wasn't there a thread once about The United States working on a program to do just that?

Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:43:30
Oh, you weren't joking at all. But nice try. At least you've realized what a retard you were being during that incident.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 21:44:39

I don't.

I think he is just a plain old-fashioned liar.

werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:45:45
wrath of orion is good at telling when people are joking
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 21:48:08

See what I mean.

"just a plain old-fashioned liar."


Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:50:42
Yes, you were joking when you pointed out a social media post from an observatory and proceeded to argue how it was possible. SA even came in pecker slapped your absolute retardation.

But yeah, keep trying to claim you were joking. Retard.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:53:49
remember when hood and woo were too dumb to get units correct in elementary school math question about bicycle production.. and unlike some people they werent joking.. and sa came and smacked them for their retardation
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:55:08
Actually, hood and I were correct there. I posted the solution manual as evidence of what the question was asking for. That was some hilarious shit, too. Thanks for bringing that up!
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 21:57:58
you should learn to do simple math for yourself rather than getting wrong answers from book

and you were humiliated in that topic but are still too dumb to realize it
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:01:26
Mhm. Keep dreaming, meteor retard. Nothing was funnier than posting the solution manual and having everyone go, "But...but...but... Think for yourself, that's not what the question was really asking!" So fucking hilarious.

Notice how wd instantly tried to deflect as soon as he realized I actually remember his retardation so well.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:01:52
And then sd pretty much admitted to just trolling semantics. That was also great.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:07:27
wrath of orion can’t understand when people are joking and can’t understand math above kindergarten level

he should kill himself
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 02 22:10:14

"wrath of orion can’t understand when people are joking and can’t understand math above kindergarten level

he should kill himself"



I agree.

So when are you going to kill yourself woo?


hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:13:10
"you cant read your own posts"

You can't seem to produce a quote where I actually make a statement about your sexuality. It's pretty telling that you cannot stay on topic.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:18:42
hood is too dishonest to admit he has been throwing constant homophobic slurs at me in many threads including this one.. lying moron
Dukhat
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:52:25
Why call you a homosexual when fucking idiot will do?

The first isn't really an insult and is something you're born with. The other is completely willfull and a billion times worse.
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 22:56:51
I have explained the metaphor behind your nickname, fluffer. That you still cannot produce an actual quote where I have made a statement about your sexuality is just sad.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 23:20:38
i dont need to quote you when anyone skimming even this one topic can see for themselves what a continually dishonest creep you are
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 23:41:18
Such a fucking pussy.
hood
Member
Sat Dec 02 23:47:22
fluffer, I believe the phrase is "put up or shut up." It stands to reason that if you cannot put up, you don't have anything; thus, since you have nothing, stop wasting time and just shut up.

Really, it makes sense that you prefer the job of putin's fluffer. Being unable to perform on your own, it must be comfortable to latch on to someone who can. (yes, this is still metaphor well beyond your comprehension level)
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Dec 02 23:55:14
why should i quote when anyone interested can scroll through your posts and see that.. as well as you being a creep and accumulating lie after lie after lie

keep it up moron
hood
Member
Sun Dec 03 00:23:19
^ has nothing, like the little bitch he is.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 03 00:29:11
keep lying and acting like youre outwitting people

imbecile
hood
Member
Sun Dec 03 00:53:08
Let it be known that putin's fluffer backed down from a direct challenge.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 03 01:02:55
let it be said i gave hood some rope and he hung himself with transparent lie after lie after lie

but let us allow the incredibly stupid and dishonorable creep to keep it up
hood
Member
Sun Dec 03 01:09:50
Putin would be displeased of your showing here, fluffer.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 03 01:13:46
keep pretending to yourself that you’re clever and a good liar scumball
Trolly
Member
Sun Dec 03 05:44:10
Oh werewolf dicktaster.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 03 06:25:21
^now keep coming up with more and different homophobic slurs.. and combine that with an obsessive love for transexuals.. and you’ll sound about as confused and inconsistent and deranged as hood [or the orlando nightclub shooter]

of course if you want to totally emulate hood.. you’ll have to also be unable to understand basic math no matter how many times someone explains it.. err badly when reading simple tables [even when carefully trying to prove you are well capable of reading them].. and delude yourself into thinking you are a clever liar when it’s obvious how dishonest you are
Trolly
Member
Sun Dec 03 06:37:41
oh werewolf dicktaster
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Dec 03 06:59:21

troller


(fixed)

delude
Member
Sun Dec 03 07:41:25
Aww look, father and son together. Hot Rod and Hot Rod, Jr.
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