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Wed Jan 03 14:18:30
Aww Trump and Bannon friendship over?

Trump now is claiming that Bannon had only a small role in his campaign and administration. Only because Bannon was critical of his Son-in-law for being a Traitor to the country.

White supremacist vs. New.

Stay tuned.
Wrath of Orion
Wed Jan 03 14:34:53

Trump and his cronies are such an unbelievable shit show.
the wanderer
Wed Jan 03 14:50:36
maybe Trump approval will dip into the 20s with his rise in idiotic tweeting & attacking the disheveled drunk leader of his base
Limousine Liberal
Wed Jan 03 15:31:35
Bannon never had any part of the Trump presidency.
Wed Jan 03 15:52:57
Was it Bannon or John Dean who said that Trump jr will break like an egg? lol

(I read something earlier today that invloved an egg, Trump, Bannon and some guy called John Dean. But I don’t remember exactly who said what now).
the wanderer
Wed Jan 03 15:56:46
Bannon: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV”
(the investigators on Russia probe)

Don Jr, in typical Trump fashion, has been launching a childish twitter storm against Bannon today
Wed Jan 03 17:56:48
This is a vicious knife fight between Donald Trump and his former campaign chief and White House Chief strategist being played out across social media.

Other Trump family members and supporters are piling in too. Why? Because Steve Bannon has enraged Donald Trump with his description of a meeting that took place between the president's son, Don Jr, and son in law, Jared Kushner, with a Kremlin-linked, Russian lawyer as unpatriotic and treasonous.

He's talked about how clear it is what the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, is investigating - whether the Trump organisation was laundering dirty Russian money. Donald Trump has fired back in the way only he knows how. He has met fire with fire, accusing Bannon of having lost his mind, of not being that influential, of being a pretender. Lost his mind. Wow.

So much for the spat. Does it matter? Well yes it does.

To anyone who will listen, Trump and his supporters have insisted vociferously, angrily, indignantly that there is no evidence there was collusion. In one recent interview with the New York Times conducted over the New Year at Mar-a-Lago, Trump raised the subject 23 times. Twenty-three times he denied collusion.

Bannon's comments won't alter the course of the Mueller investigation - his team is quietly getting on with its investigation and following where the evidence takes them - remember there have already been three people charged in connection with this. But it matters in the war of words on social media.

The narrative of Trump fidelis is that this is a 'nothingburger', or to change my food metaphor, sour grapes from the Democrats after their shock election defeat.

Some ideological outriders have been saying that what the President should do is fire the special counsel, and bring his existentially threatening investigation to an end. But how much more difficult is that propaganda battle now to wage, when one of the principal actors from the Trump campaign, and the first six months of the Trump presidency talks openly and on the record about treasonous and unpatriotic behaviour.

The firing of Bannon last August the President did with a heavy heart. But it seems that hell hath no fury like a Bannon scorned. Or as President Johnson noted when dealing with the troublesome J Edgar Hoover in the 1960s - better to have him inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in. Bannon is outside, and taking careful aim.


Wed Jan 03 21:10:22
Is there any former employee of trumps who he has not thrown under the bus at this point?
the wanderer
Wed Jan 03 21:55:12
uh-oh, Bannon violating the non-disparagement agreement the demented child makes everyone sign:

Lawyers on behalf of President Donald Trump sent a letter Wednesday night to former White House Chief Strategist Stephen Bannon demanding he refrain from making disparaging comments against the president and his family.

Wed Jan 03 22:42:13
Christ that one is going to be fun for the courts. After all under US law the Person that is the President is a seperate legal construct to the Person that happened to be elected to be the President.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Jan 03 22:44:27

What is wrong with you people, it is a figure of speech and not worth a second thought.

Paramount said something stupid yeterday and I asked hin how he got his socks on in the mornibg.

Just a figure of speech, he certainly knows how to put his socks on. Hr is a big boy after

I just don't understand why he keeps bumping into the walls like a ball in a pinball machine.

Get it?

Wed Jan 03 23:02:00
"Hr is a big boy after all."

For you.
Average European
Wed Jan 03 23:28:30
This is a ruse. 11 dimensional chess.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jan 04 09:08:41

Sorry, I missed that. It is now corrected.

Thu Jan 04 09:11:39
We get the figure of speech. You apparently don't understand the point of the thread.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jan 04 09:51:07

I know that Bannon signed a confidentiality agreement an that it included bot dissing the Trump family.

It is like all books that spread lies about The President and his family.

They did the same thing to George IIRC.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jan 04 09:53:31


Anarchist Prime
Thu Jan 04 09:59:13
would that be George IIRC the first or George IIRC the second?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jan 04 10:06:35

Second, I'm thinking of Tenet's book. IIRC that had some lies in it too.

the wanderer
Thu Jan 04 10:45:38
this author was invited into the White House and was there for months

and the accounts about Trump not wanting to read, having no attention span, being called an idiot by everyone, having weird OCDs, speaking crudely, etc all seem consistent with his known personality
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jan 04 10:54:16

You poor fool.

the wanderer
Thu Jan 04 10:58:18
right back at ya
large member
Thu Jan 04 13:22:40
"On Thursday, the White House said it was banning personal devices, including mobile phones, from the West Wing, citing security concerns."

Closing barn door after horse has bolted?
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