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Paramount
Member
Sat Jan 06 02:32:27
lol, this is good.



The U.S. Wanted to Discuss Iran. Russia Brought Up Black Lives Matter.

UNITED NATIONS — Efforts by the Trump administration to marshal a muscular international response to Iran’s crackdown on anti-government protesters appeared to backfire on Friday, as members of the United Nations Security Council instead used a special session called by the United States to lecture the American ambassador on the proper purpose of the body and to reaffirm support for the Iran nuclear agreement.

It was an afternoon of high diplomatic theater that began with a passionate denunciation of Iran’s “oppressive government” by the American ambassador, Nikki R. Haley, and ended with the Iranian ambassador delivering a lengthy history of popular revolt in the United States — from the violent demonstrations at the Democratic National Convention in 1968 to the Occupy Wall Street protests in 2011.

In the interim, Council members did, one by one, condemn the Iranian government’s response during more than a week of protests. As of Friday, more than 20 people had been killed and hundreds had been arrested. The authorities have blocked access to social media and have blamed foreign “enemies” for instigating the unrest, a common refrain at times of upheaval that in this case the government has provided no evidence to support.

In her remarks, Ms. Haley said that the United States would remain steadfastly behind the Iranian protesters.

“Let there be no doubt whatsoever,” she said, “the United States stands unapologetically with those in Iran who seek freedom for themselves.”

But there was evidence of a mini-revolt brewing within the Security Council chamber, not only among traditional adversaries like Russia and China, but also among close allies like France and Sweden. Many seemed to fear that the outspoken criticism by the Americans was simply a pretext to undermine the Iran nuclear deal, which President Trump has long desired to scrap.

It is not precisely clear what Ms. Haley hoped to achieve by convening the session on Friday, which was not previously scheduled. Until the meeting began at 3 p.m., it was not even certain whether Ms. Haley would be able to secure the votes needed to call the session to order.

But even before the session began, France’s ambassador, François Delattre, warned against “instrumentalization” of the protests “from the outside.”

Speaking before the Council, he went further.

“We must be wary of any attempt to exploit this crisis for personal ends, which would have a diametrically opposed outcome to that which is wished,” Mr. Delattre said.

The Russian ambassador, Vasily A. Nebenzya, was more blunt. He asked rhetorically why the Security Council had not taken up the issue of Black Lives Matter protests in Ferguson, Mo., which were at times also met with a violent police response.

“The real reason for convening today’s meeting is not an attempt to protect human rights or promote the interests of the Iranian people, but rather as a veiled attempt to use the current moment to continue to undermine” the Iranian deal, Mr. Nebenzya said.

Mr. Trump has repeatedly excoriated the deal, which was a signature diplomatic achievement of his predecessor, Barack Obama. In October, he refused to recertify the deal, though he left it to Congress to legislate changes to it. (None of the other world powers that signed the deal believes that renegotiation is possible.)

Later this month, Mr. Trump will again have to choose whether to continue to waive sanctions, as the deal requires, or chart a more confrontational approach that would further antagonize European allies.

Mr. Trump himself conflated the protests with the Iran nuclear deal this week, arguing that financial benefits received by the Iranian authorities as part of the accord had fueled the corruption that the country’s people were now protesting.

At the Security Council on Friday, most members insisted that these two issues were separate.

“It needs to be crystal clear to the international community that the situation in Iran does not belong on the agenda of the Security Council,” said Sacha Sergio Llorenty Solíz, the Bolivian ambassador.

Sweden’s representative, Irina Schoulgin Nyoni, concurred: “We have our reservations on the format and timing of this session.”

Such reticence to support the American position is the latest evidence of growing international resistance to the Trump administration’s foreign policy priorities, particularly at the United Nations. Last month, a large majority of United Nations members voted for a resolution denouncing the United States’ decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and move the American Embassy there.

Ms. Haley had to use her veto to block a similar resolution in the Security Council that was supported by every other member.

On Wednesday, the United States Mission to the United Nations held a cocktail reception for the nine countries that voted against the resolution in the General Assembly, which, aside from Israel, were Guatemala, Honduras, Togo, the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru and Palau.

In a video message played at the reception, Mr. Trump thanked the attendees for “standing with the United States.”

He said that the vote would “go down as a very important date,” and that their support was “noted and greatly appreciated.”

http://www...t/un-iran-protests-debate.html
Paramount
Member
Sat Jan 06 02:35:01
Man, lol. Did you read the last three paragraphs also? This is fking comedy:


"On Wednesday, the United States Mission to the United Nations held a cocktail reception for the nine countries that voted against the resolution in the General Assembly, which, aside from Israel, were Guatemala, Honduras, Togo, the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru and Palau.

In a video message played at the reception, Mr. Trump thanked the attendees for “standing with the United States.”

He said that the vote would “go down as a very important date,” and that their support was “noted and greatly appreciated.”


^Trump did not even bother to show up in person! LOL

All they got to see was a fking video tape! Bwhwhahahahaa
Forwyn
Member
Sat Jan 06 02:41:08
Ferguson riots: almost 4 total weeks

Deaths: 1

Totally comparable
Paramount
Member
Sat Jan 06 04:45:44
So let's see if Nikki Haley will gather the Security Council for an emergency briefings and tell Saudi Barbaria that people has a right to protest and that the world is watching. Somehow I don't think she will.

Saudi Authorities Detain 11 Princes Over Anti-austerity Protest
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.833314

http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.833314
jergul
large member
Sat Jan 06 06:47:36
Forwyn
The 20 killed include at least 4 killed by demostrators and another 6 killed trying to storm a police station arsenal.

Some 90-100 people are killed by law enforcement elements of US security forces alone every month in the USA.

Something is horribly wrong with your regime.
obaminated
Member
Sat Jan 06 11:16:13
Rofl at russians thinking they can lecture anyone on any issue.
jergul
large member
Sat Jan 06 11:38:08
Obam
What % of Russia's population is currently subject to its criminal justice system?

How many people were executed last year in Russia?

How many people are killed domestically each month by its security forces?

The question is not if Russia is in a position to lecture the US, but rather what countries are not in a position to lecture the US?

I can think of a few, but there are not terribly many of them.
Paramount
Member
Sat Jan 06 11:48:10
"The question is not if Russia is in a position to lecture the US, but rather what countries are not in a position to lecture the US?"


lol

*makes drum roll*

*hits the cymbal*
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