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obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 09 21:26:11
Was cool to watch. If he keeps this sort of thing up his presidency might be more than a total troll after all. Not sure if he can control himself from having twitter rants but definitely a step in the right direction.

Also, LOL, that it all springs from that book claiming he is out of touch, senile and unaware of basic policy issues.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 09 21:51:49
he didn't understand what a clean bill is

he also got his base pissed off with his DACA love... see Ann Coulter tweets

and Mr. 'Drain the Swamp' advocated for more earmarks
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 09 21:55:21
and in his typical dipshittery, after fucking up the meeting he's tweeting total bullshit after hearing all the complaints:

"As I made very clear today, our country needs the security of the Wall on the Southern Border, which must be part of any DACA approval."

he didn't demand a wall as part of DACA at all... plus he has said multiple times he supports DACA which is totally stupid if he wants concessions for agreeing to it
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 09 21:57:30
he specifically said he'd sign whatever congress came up with even if it didn't have what he wanted... most likely an easy clip to find video of... so now time to back pedal as usual

his words are worthless, proven constantly
kargen
Member
Tue Jan 09 22:20:11
Ann Coulter isn't a part of his base. The people way out there where she is at didn't want President Trump in the white house. President Trump is more centrist than anyone want so admit. Before he announced running his politics were not that much different than main stream Democrats.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 09 22:24:47
saying every mexican has to go is what won him the primaries (a promise he's totally abandoned)

it set him apart while the rest of the pack split votes amongst themselves
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jan 09 22:39:58
Only he's not a centrist as proven by his shitty far-right policies.

http://fiv...-trump-has-moved-to-the-right/

"A new YouGov survey released this week found that 5 percent of registered voters think President Trump is liberal, 19 percent think he’s moderate and 51 percent think he’s conservative. So, a majority of voters think the Republican president is a conservative. Typically, that wouldn’t be news. With Trump, however, it is.

...

"Trump’s stances led voters to believe he was relatively moderate for a Republican — or at least that he was ideologically idiosyncratic. More voters viewed Trump as liberal than any incoming GOP president since at least Ronald Reagan, and fewer voters viewed him as conservative than any Republican since at least Reagan. That stood in stark contrast to Clinton, whom the clear majority of voters saw as liberal. Trump’s ideological positioning relative to Clinton’s may have been one of the reasons he was able to pull off a slim Electoral College victory against her.

"Upon entering the White House, however, Trump has taken up a primarily conservative agenda. He’s become hawkish on foreign policy, he stocked the federal courts with conservative judges, and he urged Congressional Republicans to push through a massive tax cut that was seen as mostly helping the well-to-do. He also tried to stop transgender Americans from serving in the military. The national infrastructure project seems to be going nowhere.

"Therefore, it’s not surprising that Trump’s White House policies have pushed his OnTheIssues score toward the conservative end of the spectrum. Trump’s score is now a +60, compared to a +42.5 before the election. OnTheIssues now classifies him a “hard-core conservative” and places him just behind Reagan in the pursuit of the title of the most conservative president."
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Jan 09 23:05:11

Obaminated, That is what he has been doing all along.

Don't you remember his sit downs with the industrialists and bankers in his first few months.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 09 23:23:15
FEINSTEIN: we should have a clean DACA bill
TRUMP: that's fine, i think everyone's ok with that
MCCARTHY: whoa, hold up you fucking idiot... we need border security
TRUMP: yeah, DACA & border security... that's what she's saying
MCCARTHY: no it wasn't you damned moron


his negotiating style is telling everyone they're getting what they want then leaving... plus being an idiot
American Democrat
Member
Wed Jan 10 05:07:08
" Before he announced running his politics were not that much different than main stream Democrats. "

Yes, because he was a democrat. He then altered and changed his perspective and took a more hardline approach and stuck with it as appeasement. He is far from being a centrist.

American Democrat
Member
Wed Jan 10 05:08:02
"Obaminated, That is what he has been doing all along. "

Far from correct.
obaminated
Member
Wed Jan 10 09:42:48
Lol, tw doesnt even complain about what Trump is doing, now he complains that trump isnt doing what his base wants.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Jan 10 09:56:59
@Tumbleweed - LoL. 100% Trump. Obaminated missed it because he's a fucking idiot without the ability to discern granularity and subtext.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 10 10:45:32
"tw doesnt even complain about what Trump is doing"

a) i've stated my problems with him are in his horrible character & personality & knowledge deficiency & complete unfitness for office, so 'his' policies don't even need to factor in

b) but if you want one: i disagree w/ his anti-environment stance (he always is against environmental protection despite telling the rubes he wants protection... find one example otherwise)

c) most of what he wants doesn't happen as the adults stop him... we'd be partnered w/ Russia on cyber security & have nuked NK by now if he was in control. Mostly what's been done is what the republicans in general wanted already (it's not like that tax cut bill was Trump's plan from the campaign - and not like he came up with that plan then either... and EVERY republican candidate promised tax cuts, and that SC pick wasn't Trump's, he was told to pick the guy from a conservative think tank)
obaminated
Member
Wed Jan 10 11:31:20
Nah, you and cuckhat have this weird fucking phobia of trump, like he (or someone he reminds you of) fucked your mom and you just shut down whenever he does something positive
Mexicantardnado
Member
Wed Jan 10 11:43:32
Duuur versus my duuur slurping of his duuur trumpian cock duuuuur
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 10 11:44:14
"Since taking office I have been very strict on Commercial Aviation. Good news - it was just reported that there were Zero deaths in 2017, the best and safest year on record!" ~unfit idiot

defend the idiocy of ^this tweet... i guarantee he read a headline or bullet point, thought it was a positive article about the US and took credit (even though doubtful any Trump changes have been made to US commercial aviation)

and before you make a fool of yourself:
US Commercial Aviation total deaths 2010+2011+2012+2013+2014+2015+2016 = 0
it was a notable achievement as the report was world-wide


and feel free to defend some of his classics (WITHOUT changing his words/meaning into something completely different):

"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!"
~unfit idiot

"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally"
~unfit idiot

"Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!"
~unfit idiot

"I hope the boycott of @Macys continues forever. So many people are cutting up their cards. Macy's stores suck and they are bad for U.S.A."
~unfit idiot
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 10 11:47:11
...and for context, Macy's didn't attack him merely dropped his line as a business decision after he brought negative attention to himself w/ his 'most mexicans are rapists' speech

so did they suck & were they bad for the USA before dropping his line? ...petty liar idiot child proven (and so many times)
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