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Paramount
Member
Wed Jan 10 12:26:00
It looks like that the USA (or Israel?) is once again helping Al-Qaida and ISIS jihadists in Syria. This time by attacking Russian military bases with drones.

Looks like that the USA and Israel are still butt hurt over that Russia, Iran and Syria defeated ISIS and Al-Qaida, right?



Russia takes aim at US over series of Syria drone attacks

MOSCOW — Russia said Tuesday that a recent series of drone attacks on its military bases in Syria would have required assistance from a country possessing satellite navigation technology — a statement that appeared to be aimed at the United States.

Russia’s Defense Ministry said its forces repelled a series of drone attacks Saturday on the Hemeimeem air base and a naval facility in Tartus, adding that out of the 13 drones involved, seven were shot down and six were forced to land without inflicting any damage.

Without blaming any specific country, the ministry said data for the attacks could only have been obtained “from one of the countries that possesses know-how in satellite navigation.”

In Tuesday’s statement, it noted a “strange coincidence” of a U.S. military intelligence plane flying over the Mediterranean near the two Russian bases at the moment of the attack.

The Pentagon denied any involvement.

“Any suggestion that U.S. or coalition forces played a role in an attack on a Russian base is without any basis in fact and is utterly irresponsible,” said Marine Maj. Adrian Rankine-Galloway, a Pentagon spokesman.

The U.S. and Russia support opposing sides of the Syrian civil war.

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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Jan 10 13:17:42

So, you are saying that Russia and Iran helped bring down the WTC.

That makes as much sense as your claim.

Forwyn
Member
Wed Jan 10 13:24:25
"moderate opposition fighters"

WashPo confirmed shills
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Jan 10 13:26:54

LMFAO @ WashPo.

Paramount
Member
Wed Jan 10 13:34:41
Idlib province is almost entirely controlled by anti-government forces that are dominated by a jihadist outfit known as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham.

http://afp.omni.se/6f63ddd3-45c2-4d25-aba2-e244044c5826


commonly referred to as Tahrir al-Sham and abbreviated HTS, also known as al-Qaeda[26] in Syria[27], is an active Salafist jihadist militant group involved in the Syrian Civil War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrir_al-Sham


USA and Israel are allied with Al-Qaida – helping them to attack Russia, and to kill and murder Syrian civilians.
Seb
Member
Wed Jan 10 16:39:43
Why would it need GPS systems beyond what is available commercially?

Russia bullshitting again.
Hrothgar
Member
Thu Jan 11 02:37:53
Only 1 reason I can think of that would even play into the conspiracy is that USA might be helping to "remind" the Russians of their drone attacks in Ukraine on Ukrainian military supply depots there won't go un-punished.

I suppose that could fit the conspiracy. But seriously. Drons are a dime a dozen and even a bunch of Islamic fundy mud hutters could have observed the base with a small one, planned out an attack, and carried out a half ass one. Just as this was.
jergul
large member
Thu Jan 11 03:51:37
Hardly half-assed.

Russia has not actually been making much noise about this. So mostly washington post being spectacular.

I will post the update when Russia is done analysing the captured drones (It took control over 7 and landed them intact).
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 14 10:36:45
MOSCOW, January 11. /TASS/. The analysis of terrorists’ drones captured in Syria has shown that they cannot be made in an improvised manner, head of the Russian General Staff's department for the development of unmanned aerial vehicles Maj. Gen. Alexander Novikov said.

"The creation of drones of this class is impossible in an improvised manner. Their development and usage involved specialists, who had undergone special training in the countries manufacturing and using systems with unmanned aerial vehicles," the general said.

The assembly and usage of unmanned aerial vehicles is a difficult engineering task that demands "special training, know-how in various scientific areas and practical experience in creating these devices," he said.

Special software is also needed to use these drones, the general noted. For efficient usage of ammunition information on exact target location and such parameters as altitude, flight and wind speed is required. This information cannot be obtained from the Internet, Novikov stressed.
The explosives from the bombs

Moreover, the explosives from the bombs carried by drones that attacked Hmeymim and Tartus bases in Syria cannot be made in makeshift conditions. There are several places where this substance is manufactured and one of them is Ukraine, according to Novikov.

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"Preliminary analysis has shown that the main explosive used in the bombs was pentaerythritol tetranitrate (also known as PENT, PENTA or TEN), which has a far higher yield than hexogen. This explosive is manufactured in a number of countries, including Ukraine’s Shostka chemical agents plant. It cannot be made in makeshift conditions or extracted from other ammunition," he said.

Novikov said special tests were being made with the aim to find out the country of origin.

Drones used by terrorists carried explosives stuffed with ball bearings, according to Novikov.

"Drones’ weapons deserve attention. These are improvised explosive devices weighing about 400 grams, and stuffed with striking elements - ball bearings with a striking radius of up to 50 meters," the general said.
Route of the drones

Russia’s military has deciphered route data from the drones that attacked Russian bases in Hmeymim and Tartus in Syria, confirming that they had been launched from one place.

"The slide shows deciphered data from the captured drones on their programmed and real flight routes and points of dropping munitions. One drones was equipped with a video camera and designed for controlling and adjusting the strikes if needed," the general said.



Militants in Syria earlier used drones only for air reconnaissance, but isolated incidents were seen when they were used for attacks, Novikov stated.

"Up until recently, gunmen used drones mainly for air reconnaissance. Only isolated incidents were fixed when they were used for attacks," he said.

According to the major general, those were mainly improvised drones, made of components sold on the open market.

The militants started using foreign-made quadrotor helicopters to conduct air reconnaissance and carry out strikes in mid-2016.

"In mid-2016, foreign-made quadcopters were launched to conduct air reconnaissance and carry out strikes. It should be noted here that we registered the appearance of new types and versions of drones operated by militants in Syria a few days after they had gone on free sale in various countries," he said.
Protection of Russian military facilities

Novikov noted that Russia had created multi-layered defenses at its Hmeymim and Tartus bases in Syria to detect and destroy the entire range of terrorists’ weapons by firepower and electronic warfare measures.

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"It is necessary to note that the Defense Ministry of Russia is constantly monitoring the use of all types of armaments and military hardware by terrorists on the territory of Syria and is developing the required counter-measures," the general said.

"This fully applies to unmanned aerial vehicles. For the purpose of countering their use by terrorists, in-depth systems have been created at the Hmeymim airbase and the Tartus naval facility with the detection, firepower and electronic warfare destruction and suppression capabilities," he said.

These measures helped reliably thwart a terrorists’ drone attack on the Russian military facilities in Syria overnight to January 6, he said.
Global threat

There is real threat that terrorists may use drones in any place in the world and measures should be taken to neutralize it, according to Novikov.

The analysis of drones captured in Syria draws conclusions that "there is a real threat of using drones for terrorist aims in any place in the world that demands certain measures on its neutralization," he said.
Cooperation on international level

Combating the threat of terror attacks involving unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) requires all the interested parties to cooperate on the international level, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said following the General Staff’s briefing on Thursday.

"All the interested parties need to pay attention to such threats and cooperate on the international level to combat them," he said.

At the same time, Konashenkov pointed out that "the fact that militants received technologies to assemble and program combat unmanned aerial vehicles from abroad proves that the threat is not limited to Syria." "Terrorists may use similar deadly drones in other countries, too, and not only against military facilities," he added.
Drone attack on Russian bases

The Russian Defense Ministry earlier reported that on January 6 militants in Syria massively used UAVs for the first time when attacking Russia’s Hmeymim airbase and the fleet supply base in Tartus. The attack was successfully repelled. Seven vehicles were shot down, and six were taken under control with the help of electronic warfare devices.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on December 6, 2017 declared the complete defeat of the Islamic State on both banks of the Euphrates in Syria and on December 11 he issued orders to start the pullout of Russian forces from Syria. On December 22 Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said the pullout of Russian forces from Syria had been completed. Three military police battalions, the reconciliation center and the bases at Hmeymim and Tartus remain.
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