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FoxNEWS Member	Mon Feb 19 11:52:34 The victim count following a Sunday night shooting outside a popular Texas steakhouse increased to five Monday morning, according to San Antonio police. On Sunday night, police said four victims, including a 6-year-old boy, had been shot outside Texas Roadhouse, in the 2800 block of Cinema Ridge. Two victims were in critical condition Sunday night but the boy was not seriously injured, authorities said. Later that night, police discovered a fifth victim, a 27-years-old, drove himself to the hospital for treatment. The five victims were all part of the same group at the restaurant, according to a preliminary police report. They were sitting on a bench in front of the restaurant as they waited to be seated, when, shortly after 8:30 p.m, someone fired a handgun at them multiple times before fleeing, police said. The suspect remains at large, despite police deploying canines and a helicopter to search for him. "We do not believe that this shooting was random," San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said Sunday. "There's details I'm not gonna give out because it's part of the investigation. But, we do not believe it's random." -mysanantonio.com Trumpicantards rejoice as they claim if only the victims had guns and the staff. This wouldn't have happened. Trumpicantards rejoice as they claim FBI is at fault for this shooting as they were too focused on Russia.
Paramount Member	Mon Feb 19 11:55:25 Yup, if the FBI wasn’t so focused on Russia then this would not have happened!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Feb 19 12:01:31 RIP Patrick Swayze
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Feb 19 12:07:00 "Later that night, police discovered a fifth victim, a 27-years-old, drove himself to the hospital for treatment. The five victims were all part of the same group at the restaurant, according to a preliminary police report." this seems suspicious... why is he abandoning his other wounded group members to drive himself to the hospital... did he flee as he didn't want to be found there by ambulance/police? are they illegals... maybe a Trump fan was shooting mexicans
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Tue Feb 20 10:09:17 Trumpicantards rejoice as they claim if only the victims had guns and the staff. This wouldn't have happened. Trumpicantards rejoice as they claim FBI is at fault for this shooting as they were too focused on Russia.' I love how people who have never been in a gun fight think a surprise attack with a semi or fully auto won't happen if the people shot at have guns. Sure, the death toll could be lower, but the attack will still happen, especially if the killer plans to die anyways
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 11:27:09 Speaking of the FBI... ---- According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America – It’s Not Even Close February 19th, 2018 http://dai...es-gun-control-fbi-statistics/
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 20 11:32:55 leftards rejoice, renewing calls for nationwide regulations in response to isolated incidents in nation of 320+ million people
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 20 12:24:21 are we going to claim knives are just as lethal? or more so? kills per incident seems more relevant... there's a reason AR-15 seems weapon of choice given it's designed to kill people perhaps... or because it makes you feel like a big man is probably related
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 12:50:59 "there's a reason AR-15 seems weapon of choice" Because theres tens of millions of them out there? Its only one of the best-selling civilian rifles of all time. But sure, its popularity has nothing to so with it. "kills per incident seems more relevant" It's not.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 12:55:18 "leftards rejoice, renewing calls for nationwide regulations in response to isolated incidents in nation of 320+ million people" Like saying all police officers kill innocent people systematically and violated their constitutional rights due to isolated incidents. #forsebbed
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 12:55:45 *in isolated incidents.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 12:56:36 And to be frank, it's not like you need an AR-15 to kill a bunch of people. If I show up at a kindergarten with a Garand, you think I won't be making the headline news that day? AWB is one of the biggest wastes of time in politics.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 12:57:06 The only way now dumbshits to make an argument that another tool is more dangerous than this is to isolated the item. Lol
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 12:58:22 Fast food kills more people than guns!
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 13:00:41 Yes it does, actually.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 20 13:02:57 "Because theres tens of millions of them out there?" are you suggesting he found it lying around? they're expensive & he bought it himself legally so he had plenty of cheaper options but this is what suited his needs best and yes, kills per incident is more relevant... no sane person will conclude knives are more dangerous than rifles
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:03:24 Indeed! A foodman is going to rush a school with hamburgers in hand tossing then to all the kids.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 13:07:47 "are you suggesting he found it lying around? they're expensive & he bought it himself legally so he had plenty of cheaper options but this is what suited his needs best" Are you suggesting that fiscal restraint is a high priority for school shooters? " no sane person will conclude knives are more dangerous than rifles" More people are killed by knives, ergo knives should be a higher concern when setting policy (if any). " Tue Feb 20 13:03:24 Indeed! A foodman is going to rush a school with hamburgers in hand tossing then to all the kids." Millions of parents do this with their kids every day, so yes.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:11:16 There will be hamburgers everywhere!!!
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:13:05 Double cheeseburgers!! Leaving a trail of dead. Active hamburgers classes need to be implemented and drills.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:14:36 "More people are killed by knives, ergo knives should be a higher concern when setting policy (if any)." Untrue! fast food is! You stupid fuck.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 13:15:52 ^laughing at the victims of heart disease and diabetes
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:17:28 I'm weeping at the trail of those lost to random foodman at various locations of mass killings by burgers!
RugianLovesTheCock Member	Tue Feb 20 13:17:37
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 13:21:52 I know you think it makes you look clever to mock the fact that 2.8 million die from fast food every year and write them off as unimportant because their demise wasn't dramatic enough to warrant a story on CNN...but it doesnt.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:25:36 I can see it now. Rugian at the black panther movie an then a foodman eases in unsuspectingly with hand hamburgers tossing them everywhere. Hitting people in the faces causing temporary blindness as then those who are really hungry eating them then dying. Bodies everywhere!
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:26:08 "Here lies Rugian, he went out the way mama cass did."
RugianLovesTheCock Member	Tue Feb 20 13:27:08 Oh be truthful Rugian will go out choking on cock.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 13:27:53 Lol you're right! Aids, aids everywhere!
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 13:28:16 I sincerely doubt that, but anything's possible I guess.
RugianLovesTheCock Member	Tue Feb 20 13:28:32 Not what I meant but sure
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 20 13:51:10 why not advocate only knives for our military and save a lot of money
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:01:31 Oh btw: Http://www.snopes.com/four-times-more-stabbed-than-rifles-any-kind/ But, but, knives yall!
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:01:41 tumbleweed the wanderer Tue Feb 20 13:51:10 why not advocate only knives for our military and save a lot of money Guns are more useful for suppressive fire to hinder an enemy's movement.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:02:48 But knives are more effective killing machines. Why suppress when you can kill? Stupid fuck rugian.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:02:50 "404 Error: Page not found"
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:04:45 http://www...-stabbed-than-rifles-any-kind/
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:05:11 Must be you, works fine for me. Stupid fuck rugian.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:06:54 Whoa, I never thought of that idea. Military tactics will be revolutionized forever. But anyway, knives are deadly because they're easy to conceal, don't make a lot of noise, and many violent crimes take place where the assailant and victim are close to each other. I can't believe I have to explain this, but there you go.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:07:56 As well as handguns and more effective than knives. However! Hamburgers when hands down!
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:10:35 So Rugian uses breitbart argument and now the next will be gun deaths vs. Baseball bat deaths. But weapon of choice should be hamburgers!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 20 14:13:13 having to get close is a negative... a big one
Delude Member	Tue Feb 20 14:13:29 Doctors kill more than anyone.** ** this is untrue but I can't help spread the hysteria of statistics being used that obviously is devoid of contextual support.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:13:30 First of all, Snopes? ROFL Second, "unproven." Third, I do like how you are making my points for me. But just to pose a question, if you were to start banning weapons on the grounds that they are used in violent crimes, why is an AR-15 a higher priority for you than handguns?
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:17:43 Fun fact: snopes has been more correct than Rugian. Yes unproven. Because you've taken data from a specific perspective and was used by breitbart(lulz on that one) and repeated it. What you proved was only taking a specific item to show that this is more deadlier than the other. As you ignore other specific conditions. No, stupid fuck rugian. I am not proving your point in your delusions. I am totally mocking the shit out of you for using such a stupid fucking logic that has been used before and panned.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:19:10 Also, I never said anything specifically about ar15s, but I do have an issue with guns in general and the acquisition of them.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:21:02 Rugian thinks flawed data ends the gun argument. Lol!
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:21:24 Right, so you just hate guns. Stay out of our politics, Eurofag.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:23:54 Rugian cant read either. Do you see me anywhere stating "I hate guns?" Rugian is a stupid fuck. I said, "acquisition of guns." If that is a problem, then you better tell every other American and politician that are looking currently at gun laws to "stay out." Wow, you are a big pussy.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:24:00 Also, I'd really like to know where this "panning" occurred, since I've never seen it. Whenever it's pointed out that there are much bigger threats to public health, they just get ignored. That's not being panned.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:25:02 "I do have an issue with guns in general" You're right, I can't read.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 20 14:26:29 AR-15s serve no practical purpose, if they are legal why aren't grenades as easily accessible? easy to argue a handgun is useful for self defense
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:26:32 "...and the acquisition of them." If I said or then you would be right. Rugian cant read.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:30:08 So big pussy stupid fuck rugian can't read. And panned, just because you tend to stay on breitbart with your other dumbass losers crying about libertarianism is dead isnt my fault. But as for it the arguments have been used ad hominem every time there is a shooting as much as the crowd for "ban all guns."
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:34:29 Are you really this argumentative for no reason? Do you need me to lecture you on the meaning of the word "and?"
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:36:36 I think Trolly is stupid and I am not. See how those two clauses are separable? That's how "and" works.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:45:27 Rugian is trying to teach English. But apparently, doesn't understand it still. The context you said it makes the difference. "And" Rugian the stupid fuck probably need a to go back to English class so he can english. "And" can be used to connect as part of the same speech. For example "bread and butter." The key element is jointly. I stated "I have a problem with guns and the acquisition of them." Which means that I have a problem with the acquisition of guns. However stupid fuck rugian can't read, comprehend, nor english.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:47:21 I could have substituted "and" for "with." However, I gave the benefit of the doubt that you had brain cells, but apparently you do not.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 14:54:40 "bread and butter." Exactly. The implication is that they're two SEPARATE but equal items. Thanks for proving my point for me, again.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:57:13 Rugian still in denial lol
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 14:58:24 Rugian is still stupid even after clarifying what was inferred. He wants to play semantics because he has failed his dumbass logical display.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 15:00:32 Whats to be in denial over? You have an issue with guns, and you have an issue with the acquisition of guns. At least stand up for what you truly believe in, coward.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:04:53 Negative dingleberry. The key element is jointly. I stated "I have a problem with guns and the acquisition of them." Which means that I have a problem with the acquisition of guns. Rugian sounding mad now.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 15:06:42 Not mad, just disappointed at your cowardly lack of conviction.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:09:06 Lol rugian is so dumb as he can't understand that how and can be used as a function to join one finite verb. So Rugian will now argue that "come and see me." Doesn't mean to go see that person.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:11:15 No, you mad bro. You're mad because you used a flawed logic with flawed data. Even though it isn't exclusive to breitbart, but they did recently use it as an argument in an attempt to cloud the fact that guns are less dangerous. Or more specifically rifles. Lol
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 15:13:23 So apparently "and" doesn't connect two or more items in a sentence. Interesting! It doesn't even make sense in the context of the items in auestion. You have a problem with the acquisition of guns, but not guns themselves? Makes sense. Anyway, sad to see you failing to stand up for what you believe in. Coward.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:15:42 Apparently Rugian doesnt understand that "and can serve various functions. I blame him and hot rod exchanging bodily fluids.
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 20 15:16:35 "Like saying all police officers kill innocent people systematically and violated their constitutional rights due to isolated incidents." If you can find a quote of me saying that, I'll be rather impressed, because I never said anything close to that. More like you can't even acknowledge the problems with the isolated incidents, and jump on board with the thin blue liners circling the wagons around bad cops.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:16:56 So Rugian admits he is confused by words. Interesting.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:18:45 There is not specific quote. It's your series of anti police rhetoric.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 15:19:47 Apparently Trolly "Coward" McDick doesn't understand how to use the word "and" at all. I blame his inferior Euro education.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 15:22:40 "Like saying all police officers kill innocent people systematically and violated their constitutional rights due to isolated incidents." inb4 Trolly "Coward" McDick tries to explain how the meaning of "kill innocent people systematically" is changed by "violated their constitutional rights" because of the "and."
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:25:19 Not my fault that you can understand the various uses of the word and
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 20 15:26:57 "It's your series of anti police rhetoric." i.e. my series of calling out bad shoots. That qualifies as anti-police now, and saying "all police officers kill innocent people systematically". #trolled
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:30:43 No it's a play off of your isolated incident comment regarding the shooting about for gun control advocacy. #forsebbed
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 15:32:24 Can't*
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 20 16:27:53 Difference being, I'm not asking for federal mandates curtailing Constitutionally-guaranteed rights. #trolled
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 16:33:54 Neither are they. #forsebbed.
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 20 18:15:45 "Model bans aren't federal mandates restricting gun ownership." -Trolly #trolled
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 20 18:18:01 "We just disseminate every shooting with multiple victims for the lulz, we don't want to influence public opinion in favor of "sensible" firearm legislation." lulz
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 19:45:42 "They turk our gerns!" -Forsebbed Yet, you're still able to buy guys.
Trolly McDick Member	Tue Feb 20 19:46:16 Excuse me, sorry, I was trying to be nice to you. I know about you and Rugian. "guns."
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 20:12:36 "'And' doesn't mean 'and'" Trolly "Coward" McDick, 2018
Trolly McSerious Member	Wed Feb 21 05:38:15 Or maybe you don't understand logical equivalences.
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