Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump is going to take awy your freedom

Paramount Member	Tue Feb 20 16:43:01 Not even Obama did this but Dishonest Trump will. No more bump stocks for you! Trump orders regulations drawn up to ban bump stocks WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he had signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to draw up regulations banning devices that turn firearms into machine guns, like the bump stock used in October’s mass shooting in Las Vegas. Trump told a ceremony at the White House for first responders that he expected the new regulations would be finalized “very soon.” http://www...ourt-for-hearing-idUSKCN1G320F
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 16:48:29 Lawsuit time.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 17:03:01 As long as we're discussing bump stocks though, allow me to post this wonderful little example of leftwing gun haters honoring their promise that they don't want to seize your guns: "Massachusetts Just Banned Bump Stocks A first-in-the-nation law addresses a device tied to the Las Vegas shooting. by SPENCER BUELL · 11/3/2017, 11:01 a.m. The ban would take effect after 90 days, to give bump stock owners time to get rid of them. It would also ban devices called “trigger cranks.” No one—including police trainers and collectors—is exempt. The Gun Owners Action League of Massachusetts opposes the move, citing “excessive punishment” for violators, the fact that it leaves “no pathway to legal ownership” of the devices and that it would prohibit gun owners from selling them. " http://www...ump-stock-ban-massachusetts-2/ Democrats can be trusted to protect your Constitutional rights about as much as Dukhat can be trusted to say something correct.
Dukhat Member	Tue Feb 20 17:10:46 Nobody cares except red-pillers that get "betrayed" and then have to stay at their shitty McDonald's jobs. We get it, you need your peashooters to deal with the psychological trauma of being fundamentally helpless in things that actually matter: like attracting women or being able to move on to a better job.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 20 17:13:34 Can you give us your official prediction for the 2018 midterms? Betting on the opposite outcome will be the easiest money I'll ever make.
hood Member	Tue Feb 20 17:54:59 ^ this.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 20 18:09:10 Rugian - Democrats can be trusted to protect your Constitutional rights about as much as Dukhat can be trusted to say something correct. That is even worse than I thought. :(
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 20 18:17:44 paramounted is the only person I know that hunts quail using a bump stock.
Dukhat Member	Tue Feb 20 18:26:51 Democrats will win the house by over 20 seats. Maybe 40. Put all your money into it the opposite Rugian. It'll be the easiest $21.43 your Bookie ever made.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 20 18:37:11 How about you duk brin. How much of your personal money are you going to offer us? Please state the offs you offer for 20 seats and 40 seats.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 20 18:39:08 *-brain *-odds
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 20 19:06:33 @Rugian aren't bump stocks detachable? how is this about seizing guns it's bonehead obvious that if full auto isn't legal, a device simulating it shouldn't be legal " it leaves “no pathway to legal ownership” " boo hoo
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 00:38:03 Imagine being so fucking clueless on firearms that you think that you need a bumpstock to bump fire. Let Democrats have this one. It'll sate their thirst for bans for the next...month or so.
hood Member	Wed Feb 21 07:37:56 Trump is a Democrat? The reality distortion field is strong...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Feb 21 08:21:21 obviously people found them to be helpful or they wouldn't have been buying them and if so meaningless, i guess no one should care
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 11:10:47 Democrats are the ones who will be pleased by a ban that "turns semi-automatic firearms into machine guns". "obviously people found them to be helpful or they wouldn't have been buying them" People buy fucking shamwows bro
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Feb 21 11:13:56 "People buy fucking shamwows bro" only cause putin told them to.
hood Member	Wed Feb 21 11:57:17 "Democrats are the ones who will be pleased by a ban that "turns semi-automatic firearms into machine guns"." Cool. It's still Trump who is pushing this. It ain't Democrats coming for your guns, it's the Republican president.
TJ Member	Wed Feb 21 12:01:00 Itsy Bitsy Spider lulz
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Feb 21 12:02:39 Donald - "Although the Obama Administration repeatedly concluded that particular bump stock type devices were lawful to purchase and possess, I sought further clarification of the law restricting fully automatic machineguns. ..Today, I am directing the Department of Justice to dedicate all available resources to complete the review of the comments received, and, as expeditiously as possible, to propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns." http://www...p-fire-stocks-similar-devices/ I like the dig at the famously pro-gun obama administration
TJ Member	Wed Feb 21 12:07:03 Yes, there is a mutual disgust between the two pees in a pod. Siblings of vindictiveness.
Paramount Member	Wed Feb 21 12:09:22 ”banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.” Is he going to ban 3D-printers too?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 21 13:19:15 They are just starting to look at the options.
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 13:41:29 "Cool. It's still Trump who is pushing this. It ain't Democrats coming for your guns, it's the Republican president." Okay? Don't be Seb, I didn't say anything except that it would sate Democrats' desire for gun control...for a while. "banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns." Well, that doesn't cover bump stocks.
hood Member	Wed Feb 21 15:22:18 ??? You keep bringing up Democrats in a thread about a republican pushing gun control. If Democrats are somehow responsible for Trump's actions, or even related, feel free to post the relevance. Otherwise you're getting retarded obtuse and such stupidity requires correction. Dems aren't doing this. Dems may support gun control, but there hasn't been any real movement on that at the national level. Until Trump. A republican.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Feb 21 16:08:56 “You keep bringing up Democrats in a thread about a republican pushing gun control.” That’s how you do it. Forwyn supports some Trump policies and opposes some Trump policies. So, when Trump proposes something Forwyn supports, Forwyn trashes Democrats for opposing it. And when Trump proposes something Forwyn opposes, Forwyn trashes Democrats for presumably supporting it. What’s not to understand?
Trolly McDick Member	Wed Feb 21 16:39:08 #forsebbed
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 16:43:16 "If Democrats are somehow responsible" Okay Seb. Once again, no one said anything about responsibility. "Dems may support gun control" Far more than support. Staging sit-ins like kindergarteners. Again, perhaps this will satisfy them for a short while.
Trolly McDick Member	Wed Feb 21 16:47:56 So forseb is against the 1st amendment. As he throws a fit when the 2nd amendment gets discussed.
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 16:53:24 Trolly confuses derision with a call for a ban. #trolled
Trolly McDick Member	Wed Feb 21 16:54:40 Forseb thinks all guns are going to be banned. Lol #forsebbed.
Trolly McDick Member	Wed Feb 21 16:55:49 Like all gun sales went up because the paranoia of Obama becoming President. Forseb was part of the mob. Lol #forsebbed
hood Member	Wed Feb 21 17:04:12 "Once again, no one said anything about responsibility." Uh, you led off with "Let Democrats have this one." It isn't the Democrats "one" to have. It is Trump's.
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 17:26:20 Trolly thinks the media campaign against the AR-15 is just fluff. lol "It isn't the Democrats "one" to have. It is Trump's." And Democrats will be the ones pleased by the move. Yes, I'm not at all surprised by Trump hopping on the bandwagon. Especially with retardation like, "devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns."
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 21 19:20:35 Trolly McDick Member Wed Feb 21 16:55:49 Like all gun sales went up because the paranoia of Obama becoming President. Forseb was part of the mob. Lol Yeah, that's all it is, paranoia. That's why S.150 of the 113th Congress doesn't exist, and why the 2016 Democratic Party platform didn't have a provision regarding assault weapons. Too say nothing about the mountain of rhetoric issued by Democratic politicians in speeches, television interviews and newspaper columns. Just paranoia at work.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 21 19:34:05 They mean they are throwing the dog a bone.
patom Member	Wed Feb 21 19:44:07 Actually this time it may be teenagers who are leading the parade. It sure as hell won't be the Twitterman or the Democrats. The Pols in DC have danced around long enough that finally we have the survivors who have had enough BS thrown their way. They have a voice and are not tied down to a mortgage or a job and are willing to say fuck it. Let's go do something the adults aren't prepared to do. I wonder how many newly turned 18 year old voters will turn up at the polls in November and what their mood will be.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 21 19:55:24 When the military coup happens, that AR-15 is definitely going to make the difference. That and the silver buried in your sekrit spot, of course.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 21 20:01:18 The kids taking to Trump earlier were pretty damned impressive.
Dukhat Member	Wed Feb 21 20:20:59 I can just see it. A bunch of cuckservatives gathered together firing their ar-15's in the air to fight against the "guvmint" only to be instantly killed by a tomahawk missile launched by a drone. Not like militias even matter anymore even 70 years ago. Ask the people who fought in the Warsaw uprising how good their guns did against tanks. The gun obsession is a delusion of economically disempowered white men.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 21 20:21:42 Pretty much anyone looks impressive next to Trump, so I'm not sure how much that actually means. It's just not a very reliable comparison.
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 21 21:15:56 Imagine thinking that small arms are irrelevant in the modern world. Why do we even have infantry? Can't we just fly drones everywhere?
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 21 21:32:30 Imagine thinking that a bunch of wannabe militants are going to do better against the inevitable military coup with AR-15's than with their handguns and shotguns.
Trolly McDick Member	Wed Feb 21 21:35:23 "Yeah, that's all it is, paranoia. That's why S.150 of the 113th Congress doesn't exist, and why the 2016 Democratic Party platform didn't have a provision regarding assault weapons. Too say nothing about the mountain of rhetoric issued by Democratic politicians in speeches, television interviews and newspaper columns. Just paranoia at work." Yes. It is paranoia and hysterics. It was discussed and multiple posts brought up some being serious and some being facetious how Obama increased gun sales due to paranoia and hysterics. Yes, it was paranoia. "Obama is going to take your guns." The propaganda that was repeated during the election campaign. And here we are again. You do have the fringe left that wants to ban most of all guns. But, at the same time, you ignore the reasonable request or perspective why not increase restrictions and ensure enforcement of other stipulations. But now, you seem to be incapable of filtering, other than blame the democrats for this. Yet, Trump is now pushing forward the agenda. But still the democrats fault. You are probably part of the crew that is pushing the conspiracy that the kids were actors. Just like the conspiracy that Sandy Hook didn't happen. Rugian, you're full of shit, stupid fuck.
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