Utopia Talk / Politics / Should I move to South Africa?

BigDickNegro Member	Sun Mar 04 07:43:17 Would I get my own farm complete with whitey working for me? http://www...a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc February 28, 2018 ‘The time for reconciliation is over’: South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned land without compensation “THE time for reconciliation is over.” South Africa’s parliament has backed a motion to confiscate land owned by white people. SOUTH Africa’s parliament has voted in favour of a motion that will begin the process of amending the country’s Constitution to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation. The motion was brought by Julius Malema, leader of the radical Marxist opposition party the Economic Freedom Fighters, and passed overwhelmingly by 241 votes to 83 against. The only parties who did not support the motion were the Democratic Alliance, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the African Christian Democratic Party. It was amended but supported by the ruling African National Congress and new president Cyril Ramaphosa, who made land expropriation a key pillar of his policy platform after taking over from ousted PM Jacob Zuma earlier this month. “The time for reconciliation is over. Now is the time for justice,” Mr Malema was quoted by News24 as telling parliament. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.” According to Bloomberg, a 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of farmland in South Africa. ANC deputy chief whip Dorries Eunice Dlakude said the party “recognises that the current policy instruments, including the willing-buyer willing-seller policy and other provisions of Section 25 of the Constitution may be hindering effective land reform”. ANC rural affairs minister Gugile Nkwinti added, “The ANC unequivocally supports the principle of land expropriation without compensation. There is no doubt about it, land shall be expropriated without compensation.” Thandeka Mbabama from the Democatic Alliance party, which opposed the motion, said there was a need to right the wrongs of the past but expropriation “cannot be part of the solution”. “By arguing for expropriation without compensation, the ANC has been gifted the perfect scapegoat to explain away its own failure,” she said in a statement. “Making this argument lets the ANC off the hook on the real impediments — corruption, bad policy and chronic underfunding. Expropriation without compensation would severely undermine the national economy, only hurting poor black people even further.” Pieter Groenewald, leader of the Freedom Front Plus party representing the white Afrikaner minority, asked what would happen to the land once it was expropriated. “If you continue on this course, I can assure you there is going to be unforeseen consequences that is not in the interest of South Africa,” he said. Cope leader Mosiuoa Lekota said there was a “danger that those who think equality in our lifetime equates that we must dominate whites”, News24 reported. Mr Malema has been leading calls for land confiscation, forcing the ANC to follow suit out of fear of losing the support of poorer black voters. In 2016, he told supporters he was “not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now”. Civil rights groups have accused the EFF and ANC of inciting an ongoing spate of attacks on white farmers characterised by extreme brutality, rape and torture — last year, more than 70 people were killed in more than 340 such attacks. Ernst Roets, deputy chief executive of civil rights group Afriforum, said the parliamentary motion was a violation of the 1994 agreement in which the ANC promised minority interests would be protected post-apartheid. “This motion is based on a distorted image of the past,” Mr Roets said in a statement. “The term ‘expropriation without compensation’ is a form of semantic fraud. It is nothing more than racist theft.” He earlier hit out at “simply deceitful” claims that “white people who own land necessarily obtained it by means of oppression, violence or forced removals”. “The EFF’s view on redistribution is merely a racist process to chase white people off their land and establish it within the state,” he said. “This is not only deceiving, but also a duplication of the economic policies that the world’s worst economies put in place.” Afriforum said it would take its fight to the United Nations if necessary. The matter has been referred to the parliament’s Constitutional Review Committee, which must report back by August 30. Earlier this month, Louis Meintjes, president of the farmers’ group the Transvaal Agricultural Union, warned the country risked going down the same route as Zimbabwe, which plunged into famine after a government-sanctioned purge of white farmers in the 2000s. “Where in the world has expropriation without compensation coupled to the waste of agricultural land, resulted in foreign confidence, economic growth and increased food production?” Mr Meintjes said. “If Mr Ramaphosa is set on creating an untenable situation, he should actively create circumstances which will promote famine. His promise to expropriate land without compensation, sows the seed for revolution. Expropriation without compensation is theft”.
BigDickNegro Member	Sun Mar 04 07:50:52 Don't sign this, don't let them come to the USA! I need them as cheap workers on my farm! http://www...le-south-africa-migrate-826126 Updated | More than 12,000 people have signed a petition asking President Donald Trump to let white people in South Africa emigrate to the U.S. amid a vote by the country's parliament favoring a motion that could see South Africa's constitution amended to allow for land to be stripped from owners without any compensation.
obaminated Member	Sun Mar 04 09:25:17 hahahaa, implosion imminent.
Forwyn Member	Sun Mar 04 11:28:08 For those too young to witness the collapse of Rhodesia, we have a sequel here. Inb4 they name it Wakanda
Sam Adams Member	Sun Mar 04 11:35:21 The free world should reinvade and reconquer those retards. For their own good.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Mar 04 12:38:10 I have no idea why you people are so negative. Look at how great this worked out for Zimbabwe.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Sun Mar 04 14:31:31 How is it that South Africa gets worse and worse? The best being the guy that spent 30 years in prison.
Paramount Member	Sun Mar 04 16:02:15 ”The motion was brought by Julius Malema, leader of the radical Marxist opposition party the Economic Freedom Fighters, and passed overwhelmingly by 241 votes to 83 against.” So the South African parliament are dominated by Marxists? ”“We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.” There is a point in that. What country would reward criminals?
Paramount Member	Sun Mar 04 16:06:50 ”More than 12,000 people have signed a petition asking President Donald Trump to let white people in South Africa emigrate to the U.S.” Maybe Trump will offer a trade deal. He’ll trade african-americans with white south-africans? :P
obaminated Member	Sun Mar 04 16:54:34 We are about to watch blacks massacring whites on tv... assuming the news reports it.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Mar 05 05:04:42 Obaminated, do you really believe that?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Mar 05 05:09:44 Provided you do, how certain are you? Like I think Mitt Romney will win certain? Or as we call it on UP "Obaminated certain". Yea that is a thing now, I just invented it. Are you sure? Yea I am positive! How certain are you of this?? O..Obaminated certain! *Gasp* Noh!
Aeros Member	Mon Mar 05 09:46:29 What's funny is their black asses are not native to South Africa either. Their ancestors immigrated there after Whitey settled it.
obaminated Member	Mon Mar 05 15:20:34 @nim, do you mean if the news will report it? Dunno about you but thus far cable news hasnt really spoken about this. If you are asking about blacks killing whites in south africa then you should look up recent history. It is pretty bad there.
obaminated Member	Mon Mar 05 15:20:34 @nim, do you mean if the news will report it? Dunno about you but thus far cable news hasnt really spoken about this. If you are asking about blacks killing whites in south africa then you should look up recent history. It is pretty bad there.
American Democrat Member	Mon Mar 05 15:26:56 The irony is thick in here.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Mar 06 04:56:10 Obaminated, has Foxnews gone bankrupt? Aeros 170 000 years, that is how long modern humans have lived in South Africa. When the Europeans came there were Bantu speaking people who had migrated there 1000 years earlier.
obaminated Member	Tue Mar 06 10:00:26 What a passive aggressive response.
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