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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Mar 13 08:08:42

Mike Pompeo is the new SecState. It seems he knows a great deal about North Korea.

A woman will be the new Super Sleuth, I didn't catch her name.


I guess Tillerson will file for unemployment.



Aeros
Member
Tue Mar 13 08:15:04
Funny how this happened immediately after Rex condemned russia for the salisbury attack.
hood
Member
Tue Mar 13 08:25:47
With all this turnover, when are we going to finally get "the best people"?
yankeessuck123
Member
Tue Mar 13 08:28:23
One might be forgiven for thinking that Trump isn't very good at hiring.
Aeros
Member
Tue Mar 13 08:28:43
When its just himself and his pet teddy bear mister cuddles in the white house all alone.
FUCK YOU FAG
Member
Tue Mar 13 08:35:31
New CIA boss Haspel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel
Haspel ran a "black site" CIA prison located in Thailand in 2002.[5][6] The site was codenamed "Cat’s Eye" and held suspected al Qaeda members Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri and Abu Zubaydah for a time. The Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture specifies that during their detention at the site they were waterboarded and interrogated using no longer authorized methods.[7][8] Declassified CIA cables specify that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a month, was sleep deprived, kept in a "large box", had his head slammed against a wall and he lost his left eye. Zubaydah was deemed, by the CIA interrogators, to not be in possession of any useful intelligence (Interrogation of Abu Zubaydah).[9]

Haspel later was the chief of staff to Jose Rodriguez, who headed the CIA's Counterterrorism Center. In his memoir, Rodriguez wrote that Haspel had "drafted a cable" in 2005 ordering the destruction of dozens of videotapes made at the black site in Thailand.
yankeessuck123
Member
Tue Mar 13 08:40:45
So she orchestrated the brutal torture of a guy who had nothing to tell?
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Mar 13 09:07:16
yeah,but is she hot!
Daemon
Member
Tue Mar 13 10:40:13
Note the date:
http://www...ef-u-s-officials-idUSKBN1DU23F

November 30, 2017 / 4:02 PM / 3 months ago
Trump considers plan to replace Tillerson with CIA chief: U.S. officials
obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 13 10:53:31
Guys, swordtail lied, she is not hot.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 13 10:57:52
i guess they had to wait a couple months since they called that fake news
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 13 11:01:18
bringing back torture (& "a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding") was a campaign promise, so i guess Trump's going for that checkbox

...even though since he lost the popular vote massively, the people don't actually want his ideas
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 13 11:08:28
Tillerson learned of his firing via tweet

Comey learned of his via seeing it on TV

let's hope Trump learns of his via agents busting down his door during 'executive [play]time'
murder
Member
Tue Mar 13 11:14:39

Russia just ordered Trump to fire Rex Tillerson, and he did.

This is normal.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 13 11:41:42
Tillerson's aide has been fired for telling the world Tillerson learned of the firing from a tweet (which was probably true... we know it's how Trump has announced things in the past)


also Trump personal aide John McEntee fired & escorted out of the White House because he's under investigation for financial crimes (but already re-hired to Trump's re-election campaign to continue his life of crime)
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Mar 13 12:01:17
Well he is living up to his The Apprentice persona.
Someone must have already made a sketch of Trump firing people as a president. I mean from back this was all obviously sketch material and not real life.
Paramount
Member
Tue Mar 13 12:40:47
Is there anyone left from Trump’s original team?

I thought his team was the best team ever. But now he has fired everyone? Which means that his team must have been really bad. Like, really bad.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Mar 13 12:42:49
Germany: CIA deputy Gina Haspel must face arrest on travelling to Europe

http://www...-s-accountability/germany.html
Dukhat
Member
Tue Mar 13 12:46:39
Trump can't even find good people to replace those he lost. He replaces a retard with an even bigger retard.

Time to get impeached.
Daemon
Member
Tue Mar 13 12:51:04
I like that idea:

http://twitter.com/Snowden/status/973555894540783617

06:46 - 13. März 2018

Edward Snowden

Are these really the values the US should be promoting? The CIA might as well start issuing uniforms decorated with skulls and lightning bolts.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 13 13:08:11
Trump still has
Kellyanne Conway: guilty of violating Hatch act at least twice, and now discovered to have taken part in expensive private flights

Stephen Miller: weasely guy who looks like a Russian spy
jergul
large member
Tue Mar 13 13:49:23
Daemon
Hugo boss designs are certainly timeless.
murder
Member
Tue Mar 13 14:21:46

As far as Trump is concerned, Hitler was just a charismatic guy who got high ratings (the best!) and acquired a lot of power.

You have to respect that.

Forwyn
Member
Tue Mar 13 14:26:16
"Germany: CIA deputy Gina Haspel must face arrest on travelling to Europe"

An excellent opportunity to save Europe from encroaching Islamization. GEOTUS will seize the casus belli and birth the Imperium Americanus via recolonization of the EU.

Deus Vult!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 13 16:10:07
poor Rex was on the verge of tears in his farewell statement

no thanks (or any mention) for Trump

instead reminded everyone their oath is to the constitution
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Mar 14 09:37:25
"I was the CEO of Exxon goddamned Moble! How did I end up in this shit?"
smart dude
Member
Wed Mar 14 09:49:08
When Trump promised to hire "the best people" who knew they would all disappear so quickly. Seems like Trump doesn't know who "the best people" are.
hood
Member
Wed Mar 14 09:51:47
I mean, the guy became a household name by firing people. What else would you expect from him?
murder
Member
Wed Mar 14 10:24:04

Trump was a household name long before The Apprentice. The tabloids, talk shows, and his own shameless self promotion, made him a household name.

People constantly reference "The Art of the Deal" despite not being able to point to a single successful Trump business venture besides Trump Tower.

With the help of the tabloids and talk shows, he basically brainwashed the public into accepting that he's a brilliant businessman ... all while filing for bankruptcy left and right, and failing miserably at most every venture.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 14 12:49:20
Trump considering firing McCabe right before his retirement to screw over his pension
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Mar 14 13:09:47

It would probably be easier to reinstate his benefits if he is found to be not guilty of anything than it would be to take them back once he is proven guilty.

That's my guess anyway.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Mar 14 13:12:13

BTW, it is the A/G making that decision.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 14 13:17:27
"FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is racing the clock to retire with full benefits. 90 days to go?!!!"
~Trump (Dec 23, 2017)

he is quite aware & quite petty & quite a dictator
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Mar 14 13:27:28

That is his thinking, not his orders. He is not going to order McCabe fired,

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 14 15:33:43
he certainly would... but even if he didn't then it would be an appeasement gift from Sessions to protect his job after Tillerson was booted & Trump saying he doesn't quite yet have the people he wants
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 14 15:44:32
Soon...

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Want to see how we can instantly save $2 million on government spending? Hey Andrew "Loser" McCabe...YOU'RE FIRED!
11:47 PM · Mar 17, 2018
210,321 Retweets
948,817 Likes

TJ
Member
Wed Mar 14 17:50:01
"When the higher officers are angry and insubordinate, and on meeting the enemy give battle on their own account from a feeling of resentment, before the commander-in-chief can tell whether or not he is in a position to fight, the result is ruin.">Sun Tzu

chuckle...
Y2A
Member
Wed Mar 14 23:15:13
With so many guys coming in and going out in such a short time they should call it the whore house.
Y2A
Member
Thu Mar 15 21:42:16
Another guy just left the whore house.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 15 21:57:23
McMaster on deck

& Sessions in a spider hole
Aeros
Member
Fri Mar 16 00:57:28
Trump really is going to end up holding a little girls tea party in the Cabinet room with all his stuffed dolls.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 16 01:41:50
If Sessions get fired, the GOP will stonewall for as long as they can and roll over and let dems take congress in 2018 before joining with them to impeach Trump. So many of them are afraid of being primaried. They want the excuse of having the dems in power.

But it will be a deeply chaotic time until then and there's no guarantee Dems win though I think anyone not licking Breitbart's long-dead chode can reasonably expect Dem gains this fall to be even bigger this fall.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Mar 16 04:57:39

Trump knew very little about the job when he was elected or what kind of person would be best for each position.

He had to do some trial and error.


What the hell do expect? The demonrats are still holding up some of his appointments even Cabinet positions.

Almost 14 months and he still does not yet have a full Cabinet. If the Republicans did that to a demonrat you guys would be marching on Washington.


delude
Member
Fri Mar 16 05:15:56
"Trump knew very little about the job when he was elected or what kind of person would be best for each position. "

Employers expect you to know to some degree of how to do your job or have some knowledge of it as you pro-actively research the position.

Thus far, Trump has displayed that he still doesn't understand it nor took much time to even research it before or while current. He definitely failed understanding how the U.S. Constitution works as he can't grasp onto the fundamentals of that.

"What the hell do expect? The demonrats are still holding up some of his appointments even Cabinet positions."

Just democrats only, yeah? Interesting when it's shown that some republicans are doing the same thing considering the controversial nominees that have either withdrew due to questionable backgrounds, those confirmed are in the midst of controversy abusing their positions, and others that are in similar situations. Damn the Senate for being skeptics based up the current track record of the highest turnover of any President in the last 30 or maybe 40 years.

"If the Republicans did that to a demonrat you guys would be marching on Washington. "

Republicans did do that. Funny how you block that portion of your memory.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Mar 16 07:19:09

Fuck Off Fool.

hood
Member
Fri Mar 16 07:29:21
"Trump knew very little about the job when he was elected or what kind of person would be best for each position."

One might dare to say he was unqualified?


"He had to do some trial and error."

Shouldn't take over a year to figure it out.


"Almost 14 months and he still does not yet have a full Cabinet."

Then he should shoulder a little responsibility and deal with it (either by filling empty positions or nutting up and not using it as an excuse).


"What the hell do expect?"

Competence. Which is apparently too much.
Delude
Member
Fri Mar 16 08:10:33
"Fuck Off Fool."

My apologies for interjecting reality.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Mar 16 09:22:34

Where, exactly, does one go to school to learn everything there is to know about running The United States as President?

Hell even JFK admitted to learning the job on a daily basis.

hood
Member
Fri Mar 16 09:26:59
"Where, exactly, does one go to school to learn everything there is to know about running The United States as President?"

Who said everything? You said, very directly, that Trump knew very little. One doesn't need to know everything, but knowing more than very little is a low bar and one we should best.


"Hell even JFK admitted to learning the job on a daily basis."

Whereas Trump thinks he already knows everything, despite knowing very little?
Aeros
Member
Fri Mar 16 09:45:49
All the people who ran for President up until Trump are, in general, people who have spent all their lives focused on that singular goal, and only entered politics as a way of achieving it.


There are a few exceptions of course. Ulysses Grant got the war hero bump, and he was absolutely terrible at the job too.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Mar 16 10:00:51

When you consider the depth and breadth being The President of The United States 'very little' is a tremendous amount.

You guys boast a knowledge of what it takes to be a member of that elite club. So who are they>

Exactly who would you choose to fill your cabinet posts?



Just Curious.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 16 10:04:31
Moron Rod can't even think for himself anymore.

And it's patently obvious to everyone that Trump is not firing people because they are incompetent; quite the opposite. He hates independent thinkers and can't stand up to them being cut from the same Fox-News-watching cloth as Hot Rod.

So he fires them and sticks cotton in his ear and screams about how the world is unfair instead of himself.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 16 10:04:43
blaming* himself.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Mar 16 10:05:29

Another exception might be George Washington.

He knew very little about the job but he received a 100% unanimous vote from the electoral college both times.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Mar 16 10:10:44

dukbrain, I do believe you are mixing up Trump with Hilarity. She is the one that blames everyone but herself. Deny that if you dare.

Why do you post? Every time you do you prove your stupidity.

TJ
Member
Fri Mar 16 10:53:08
President Trump knows his objective and his approach is different or one could even say eccentric in politics. Every individual can't overcome challenges without an optimistic attitude; it projects confidence and arrogance.

If a person is going to change the paradigm, they need to step out of the box. Politics has been methodical with fundamentally patented approaches for decades, and that is and inevitably has been the resistance. The eyes of the world are on Trump. I personally prefer those who are elastic thinkers.

The separation of powers, nevertheless, remains and when or if he commits a major misstep he will fail his objective.
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