Utopia Talk / Politics / Calling out the Sebster....

KreeL Special Member	Fri Mar 16 21:39:15 Checkers, chess, scrabble...you name it. I will try to give you a good game! Itsyourturn.com --I'll give you several days per move. You can't lose, little dude...can you?
KreeL Special Member	Fri Mar 16 21:54:12 BTW don't challenge me in something you're not good at, like reversi or something. Pick what you are confident you can kick my ass in. Or not. You can bail if you want. It all counts.
KreeL Special Member	Fri Mar 16 22:00:47 I am reaching here, but you seem quite the intelligent kinda guy. (I mean that as a compliment). So I figured something like chess or checkers which take a little brains. However there are other games like battleship or gomoku, etc.
KreeL Special Member	Fri Mar 16 22:09:19 I'll wait. I know,like me, you don't have time. However with itsyourturn.com you can make your moves at your leisure. No problemo. I have played several posters here, so don't be shy, Seb, be brave like they were.
KreeL Special Member	Fri Mar 16 23:18:38 FTW
Seb Member	Sat Mar 17 07:29:37 What are you trying to prove? You can beat me in a game? Isn't that rather a boring alternative to debate? I haven't played chess in years and it's 90% memory and experience. Checkers is boring. I'm not interested in playing a game for anything more than fun. A name blind game of diplomacy could be fun though. We need five other players. Turns weekly though. https://www.playdiplomacy.com
Seb Member	Sat Mar 17 07:32:36 Or Stars! But that's a right faff and would probably last three years.
Seb Member	Sat Mar 17 07:33:28 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars! God that was fun. Total time sponge though.
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 17 12:39:13 Debates are nice -but it's just opinions and arguments on posture, etc. Totally different from actually using your brain to wage war on a finite battlefield in a display of superior intellect. Ask Kasparov.
hood Member	Sat Mar 17 12:43:15 It's always depressing to see people gauge intellect on only the things they're good at. In this instance, you're only smart if you've spent enough time learning how to play chess or checkers.
TJ Member	Sat Mar 17 12:53:47 "superior intellect" lmao
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 17 13:00:44 More to it than that to be sure. Sitting across the board from champions from various countries or even the world opens up gut emotions you never knew you had. It's life and death personified frozen in a time frame of an hour or two. Do you play, hood?
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 17 13:01:14 TJ are you a player?
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 17 13:07:00 I didn't think so.
patom Member	Sat Mar 17 13:28:19 Give me a few weeks to practice and I'll play you some darts. But you will have to come here ;) I used to be about mediocre in the Bar Room League I played in 40 years ago.
TJ Member	Sat Mar 17 13:30:33 I know the basics in chess and checkers from my more adolescent years. I'll forfeit and conserve my time, but thanks for extending the offer.
hood Member	Sat Mar 17 15:00:23 "Sitting across the board from champions from various countries or even the world opens up gut emotions you never knew you had." Gut emotions make you intelligent? That's a new one.
Seb Member	Sat Mar 17 15:03:30 KreeL: Ok, so the same applies to diplomacy - you need the positional mechanics and conditional analysis of Chess, combined with the ability to use logic and argument to pursaude 6 other competing players. I really don't think Chess is a mark of intellect, given even the best human player can be outplayed by a computer simply doing finite path calculations. And MRI scans tend to indicate grandmasters are merely comparing board positions and moves against memories of the best performing move in that situation (whether they realise it or not). If we were going to play, I'd suggest Go as something that involves more intellect, but I've played that game precisely twice, and ten years ago and I didn't find it particularly fun. So, I'd say Diplomacy: it's fun and combines the stuff we do here with the kind of positional thinking of Chess.
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 17 21:56:21 Book moves have been in published form for over a century. Where intelligence comes into play is making calculated moves 'out of book' to entice a poor move from your opponent. No human mind can recall every book move. The strategy is simple: Always make the second to the last mistake.
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 17 21:58:07 GO is okay. Scrabble might be a funner cup of tea.
Seb Member	Sun Mar 18 07:50:00 If you mean diplomacy book moves, people who play that way get fucked. I'm dyslexic. No thanks.
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Mar 18 08:28:56 KreeL, Seb would prefer playing a game involving you fucking his wife while he watches from the corner of the room. Seb has only uttered it name in Arabic to Abu, Muhammad, and Jamal but Google's machine translator indicates it may be called "Cuckopoly". If you decide to play, make sure you use protection.
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Mar 18 17:33:25 ..or each could play/read a “Choose Your Own Adventure” on the honor system, and whoever has the best ending wins! It’s got like.. diplomacy, debate,.. and like.. problem-solving. Super intelligent stuff for super intelligent people. A true metric for comparing megalomania (or read as comparing “intelligence”). Retro adventurism is like the post-IQ IQ Test. ... Anyways, you can never trust that online chess opponents won’t just feed your moves into a computer and do what the computer did as their move. It’s like those posters who cheat at UP by feeding responses into CleverBot.
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 24 00:13:43 CleverBot? Cuckopoly? Hehehe - even in my old age I see new stuff.
KreeL Special Member	Sat Mar 24 00:26:18 If you're dyslexic, Seb - how come your name isn't Bes(s)?...or maybe it is.
Seb Member	Sat Mar 24 18:11:10 You've gone downhill mate. Your skit about nuclear volcanos at the wtc was funnier.
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