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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Mar 27 05:34:09

She is a pro-Trump, pro-Real News kind of gal this time around.



Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Mar 27 06:30:55

It premieres *****TONIGHT***** 7:00 PM Central.

Tonight's episode is one hour long.

hood
Member
Tue Mar 27 07:42:15
And people should care why? She's about as relevant as Rosie O'Donnell.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 27 10:45:52
the news isn't fake

Trump delayed his pathetic 'fake news awards' and it was still awful... his top winner was an opinion piece... opinions can't be fake
TJ
Member
Tue Mar 27 11:42:17
Do you want a fake opinion piece?

Reading this place is an exercise program. hahaha
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 27 13:00:52
What the hell is ABC? Is that like one of those legacy channels that your TV antennas can pick up?
jergul
large member
Tue Mar 27 13:46:57
What is a TV antenna?
TJ
Member
Tue Mar 27 13:56:39
Mostly nostalgia... Captures mostly local television signals.

LOL with Rugian.

http://tva.../7/4/0/6740214/2369331.jpg?920

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Mar 27 16:07:00

And that guy dutifully listens when his wife yells, *Don't move honey the picture is perfect*.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Mar 27 16:11:48

hood - And people should care why? She's about as relevant as Rosie O'Donnell.


Actually no. Roseanne is very relevant because what she did is take her old show and bring the same characters up to today's current decade.

Even today's politics has a role in the program.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 27 16:14:35
so maybe it will add more people for Trump to hire from

he has to see you on TV to notice or care about your opinions
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 27 16:47:32
apparently Roseanne is (& will play) a Trump supporter w/ all the garbage propaganda that ignores the real Trump

...but she will have a 'gender-fluid' grandkid, so something for everyone to hate
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Mar 27 16:56:46

Her sister gives her a run for her money.

Give it a try. You might get a kick out of dissing the show if nothing else.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 29 15:42:12
Trump brought up Roseanne's good ratings in his 'speech' on infrastructure

...such an idiot
TJ
Member
Thu Mar 29 15:54:06
Beware of the Roseanne character slight of hand and what is being projected. The public gullibility is astounding even though future viewership will be my final determination.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 29 16:05:42
i watched some of the first episode, i doubt her ratings will hold

was like a sledgehammer of political/culture issues
- DJ is a veteran back from Syria
- ...and has a black daughter (so probably black wife)
- the 'gender fluid' kid (boy dressing like a girl)
- Roseanne/Jackie fighting over Trump/Hillary
- Becky considering selling an egg & being a surrogate mother
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 29 17:40:21
i like that TW's obsession of Trump is so deeply rooted that he will spend time watching a shitty sitcom reboot he has no interest in, solely because the show will address trump in a positive way.

also, rofl at the ratings.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 29 19:06:10
rofl at mt who admires Trump (also i had seen the original show, so seeing the new one was out of curiosity... something Trump does not experience)

Trump sucks! :P
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Mar 29 22:01:07

Roseanne and Trump have been friends for many, many years. He has helped her through some hard times.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 30 18:06:29
Probably by grabbing her by the pussy.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 30 18:46:30
Roseanne's tweets about Pizzagate & Seth Rich conspiracies are gone...

what a sell-out
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 30 21:34:31
"President Trump has freed so many children held in bondage to pimps all over this world. Hundreds each month. He has broken up trafficking rings in high places everywhere. notice that. I disagree on some things, but give him benefit of doubt-4 now."
~Roseanne (tonight)

anyone know wtf she's talking about?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 30 22:10:39
i figured perhaps she was giving Trump personal credit for what the FBI does (& did long before Trump) but since Trump gives himself personal credit for stuff done before him as well, it would fit...

however possibly a more fucked up rationale noted in this article if anyone cares
http://www...th-from-sex-trafficking-rings/
she may have gone the way of Cousin Eddie
obaminated
Member
Sat Mar 31 08:29:52
TW obsession in full swing.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 09:18:30

The Washington Post just printed an article revealing that unemployment in the rust belt is diminishing faster than any other part of the country.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 31 11:05:10
from drug overdoses?
Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:13:26
People in the rust belt are either dying or moving.

Yup, seems like I and Tumbleweed are correct.

MEN DISAPPEAR FROM RUST BELT AS UNEMPLOYMENT AND ADDICTION RISE

“They’re all on dope or they’re dying up here,” one Ohio woman says of men in a recent Atlantic piece, investigating the burden of male demise in the Rust Belt region (theatlantic.com).

http://gob...t-unemployment-addiction-rise/
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 11:15:33

For what it's worth: Posted on May 31, 2017 by molsen4.

Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:16:24
“I say, ‘Can you tell me one promise that [Trump has] kept you, one thing he’s promised during his campaign that he’s kept and that’s the reason you’re voting for him?’” he said. “And they’ll tell me, ‘Honestly, I can’t.’ It’s a buyer’s remorse. People are waking up.”

http://www...-rust-belt-unemployment-751475

lol
Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:18:13
So where is da link to your WP article, Hot Rod? Or were you just making it up?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 31 11:18:26
i'm not even against the Roseanne show if she keeps her insanity to herself... (which apparently she isn't doing)

could make the idiots who believe Trump loves the bible start accepting other lifestyles & selling your children

& technically could make Trump haters understand Trump supporters better but not sure that's an important thing to happen... Trump is objectively awful, no real need to risk contamination from the people who are deceived by him
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 11:24:25

By Nicole Goodkind On 12/18/17 at 1:00 PM


Since I am retired there is little he can do for me.

However, I do admire him for getting rid of thousands of screwball regulations and the tax reform.


There are so many promises that he has kept that I would not know where to start.

Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:26:09
^ That’s a good excuse to not being able to name any.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 11:27:23

I named two fool. You only asked for one.

Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:29:46
Two? Wow that was many.

So you knew where to start after all, which means you were lying when you just told us you don’t know where to start :P
Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:30:53
”You only asked for one.”

All I asked for was a link to the Washington Post article.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 31 11:38:09
what does this reference?
"Posted on May 31, 2017 by molsen4"

and Nicole Goodkind saying "I do admire him for getting rid of thousands of screwball regulations" sounds like she's quoting Trump like you do... i bet Nicole & Trump can't name any


and i see no obvious Washington Post article on rust belt unemployment
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 11:53:57

I can't find it either.

I suggest you contact FOX NEWS and them where it is.

Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:56:01
I googled but there is nothing on that unemployment in the rust belt is diminishing. If this was true then surely it must be big news and everyone would be writing about it. But there is nothing. Are you sure it wasn’t just a wishful dream that you had, Hot Rod?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 31 11:56:09
so someone on Fox News told you the Washington Post had an article about rust belt unemployment?

was it completely unreliable Fox & Friends?
Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 31 11:58:14
Yeah, mayne if we contact Fox News they can make up an article about it :)
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Mar 31 19:03:03
"‘Roseanne’ Returns"
[Onion: American Voices]
"More than 30 years after its debut, Roseanne has returned to ABC to depict the working-class struggles of the titular character and her husband, Dan. What do you think?"
http://www.theonion.com/roseanne-returns-1824140144
"“Finally, I can watch a worse version of my third-favorite show from 30 years ago.”
Craig O’Malley • Tambourine Embroiderer"
"“Smart of them to capitalize on Roseannemania while it’s white-hot.”
Frederick Sanders • Toblerone Carver"
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 19:20:41

I liked it.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Mar 31 21:54:14

Paramount, I found the article.
There are too many graphs to post it. Here is the link.


There’s a surprising rebound in Trump country – and it could be short-lived

by Andrew Van Dam March 29 Email the author


http://www...ighest/?utm_term=.18b874a1dfc4

Paramount
Member
Sun Apr 01 02:36:41
Thanks.



Now the early returns are in: In the first year of the Trump presidency, places that voted for Trump are doing better economically than at the end of the Obama administration. But that is not totally surprising, because the overall economy has continued to add jobs.

What may be more surprising is that not only are these counties adding jobs, but also job growth has accelerated the most in counties where Trump earned the most votes, according to a Washington Post analysis of Labor Department data.

It’s too soon to declare victory, however, and the current set of gains may well be short-lived.



[...]

Why the shift

Economists broadly agree a politician’s ability to create jobs in the short term is overblown. (The exception is a large spending bill, such as the 2009 fiscal stimulus, but that did not occur in 2017.) And Trump hasn't yet had time to fully see the effects of long-term policy that might bring sustained growth to rural America. He initiated a process of regulatory overhaul and passed tax cuts at the end of the year, but any gains from those policies probably won't show up in any meaningful way in the 2017 figures. It's nonetheless possible Trump's victory has contributed at least in part to the faster improvement in regions where residents voted for him most.

Those higher expectations alone might nudge growth rates upward as people are more willing to spend and invest, said Jed Kolko, chief economist at the job-search site Indeed.com.

[..]

Oil and commodity prices crawled up off the floor in 2017 as global economic growth picked up pace and, more importantly, production started to recover. Companies became more efficient and shifted their efforts to more cost-effective wells and regions. As Brown explains, production, not price growth, leads most directly to jobs in the industry.

[...]

So while 2017 was relatively strong, the rural areas that supported Trump most lack the underlying economic structure to overcome the ever-present head winds of an aging population and receding industries.


[...]

Remember that Trump’s apparent success is relative to a particularly anemic baseline. His strongest supporters ARE STILL SEEING THE COUNTRY'S SLOWEST JOB GROWTH, even if it’s faster than what they had become accustomed to by the end of the Obama years.

And if they’re growing slower than the rest of the country, then not only are they not making up lost ground, but also they’re falling further and further behind.



--



Okay... so:

The economic expectations of Republicans turned drastically more positive after Trump's election.

The global economy picked up pace. (Maybe because Merkel was elected in Germany again, and the world turned more positive? :)
Paramount
Member
Sun Apr 01 02:44:29
I think here is the core of the problem:

"So while 2017 was relatively strong, the rural areas that supported Trump most lack the underlying economic structure to overcome the ever-present head winds of an aging population and receding industries."


People needs to find new jobs in new/differents areas/business. Which means that people needs to re-educate themselves. Although, someone who is 50+ may not like it to go to school again. But people has to adapt or perish.

So Trump should invest in education in these areas. Offer free education to people who are losing their jobs. It's an investment.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 05:13:33

If it grows enough maybe it will draw back the young that have left.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Apr 01 10:24:28
lol, Trump has no interest in actual education for people. His only "education" interest is in educating his daughter and other young women on what it feels like for him to grab them by the pussy.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 10:36:14

You must be very young if you consider your mom to be a 'young woman'.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Apr 01 10:40:08
Trump only promotes Fox & Friends & Hannity... plus biased books that praise him

education is his enemy
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Apr 01 10:47:54
"Democrats hate our President more than they love our country."
~ RNC chairwoman

"I hate our President BECAUSE I love our country."
~ Mark Hamill response

http://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/980213294433689600

get her Luke! (258,536 Likes atm)
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Apr 01 10:51:49
It looks like CR broke Retard Rod. He's only capable of babbling about people's moms now.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 12:05:55

If you would take the time to notice that I left him repeating himself.


Tell me, does your mom rub her teat with candy so it will taste better for you?

Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Apr 01 12:07:39
More evidence that Retard Rod was defeated and broken... Sad.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 12:13:04

LOL, you wish.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 18:55:08

In addition to the 18 million that watched the show, they said that an additional seven million had it recorded or tracked it down and streamed it.

So that makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 22 million that watched it.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 18:56:37

It will be interesting to see the numbers for tonight.

Of course, I will be watching.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 19:33:00

It was very funny and no politics.

It dealt with how Darlene should raise her daughter and how it was done way back when.


It will be a smash.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 03 21:14:55
last weeks ratings were hyped in the media so likely will have done well again... won't last if they give up on being about the train wreck of Trump
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 22:12:57

It was quality tonight and funny.


Trump was hardly a train wreck last week. That is probably why you turned it off.

obaminated
Member
Thu Apr 12 09:01:03
So it was 4 in the morning and i was coming down from a bender, i started this show. Its actually pretty funny. And not in an awkward "right wing jokes" way. It is genuinely funny.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Apr 12 09:49:24

No politics to speak of in the last couple of episodes.

But, the cast is so diverse and they do not care about PC it is, Indeed, funny.

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