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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 08:11:27

They are about 1200 strong so far.


An Army of Illegal Immigrants is Marching on the United States

03/31/2018 Source: Buzzfeed News by: Adolfo Flores


Taking a drag from her cigarette, a Mexican immigration agent looked out toward a caravan of migrants that grew larger with each step they took on the two-lane highway.

When the agent, who'd covered her uniform with an orange and white shawl, learned that the Central American migrants heading her way numbered more than 1,000, she took off for the restaurant across the street.

“I'm going to have a relaxing Coke,” she told BuzzFeed News.

For five days now hundreds of Central Americans — children, women, and men, most of them from Honduras — have boldly crossed immigration checkpoints, military bases, and police in a desperate, sometimes chaotic march toward the United States. Despite their being in Mexico without authorization, no one has made any effort to stop them.

Keep reading at Buzzfeed News.
Source: Buzzfeed News


http://ame...-marching-on-the-united-states

Cold Rod
Member
Sun Apr 01 08:16:07
"americanactionnews"

Also "Army."

LOL! Get the fuck out.
Rugian
Member
Sun Apr 01 08:16:40
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Apr 01 10:34:48
perhaps they are headed to the arctic
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 10:39:17

Or just to Canada.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Apr 01 10:52:16
He just needs to get down there and grab them by the pussy.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Apr 01 10:54:40
Fox & Friends must've covered this or something, as Trump freaking out:

"
Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. “Caravans” coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!

Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S. They laugh at our dumb immigration laws. They must stop the big drug and people flows, or I will stop their cash cow, NAFTA. NEED WALL!

These big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of DACA. They want in on the act!
"


for the record, they obviously aren't trying to take advantage of DACA as it wouldn't apply... typical Trump making up the reason for something to support his cause
(like how the Russia investigation is "an excuse by the Democrats...yadda yadda" that he has said a billion times despite the investigation starting many months before election so clearly NOT true)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Apr 01 10:59:31
there's basically no chance Trump heard about this via any normal presidential news methods... we know he gets all his info from TV watching

& both HR & Trump brought it up at the same time

we basically have Hot Rod as president...
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Apr 01 12:09:08

Great minds think alike when it comes to great movements.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 02 10:26:41

They are still coming. I can't believe no one cares about this.


Paramount
Member
Mon Apr 02 10:40:37
Maybe you can have the UN to reallocate them to Canada?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Apr 02 11:30:27
Trump still throwing a childish twitter tantrum about it... and tossing in all his talking points

"
Mexico has the absolute power not to let these large “Caravans” of people enter their country. They must stop them at their Northern Border, which they can do because their border laws work, not allow them to pass through into our country, which has no effective border laws.....

...Congress must immediately pass Border Legislation, use Nuclear Option if necessary, to stop the massive inflow of Drugs and People. Border Patrol Agents (and ICE) are GREAT, but the weak Dem laws don’t allow them to do their job. Act now Congress, our country is being stolen!

DACA is dead because the Democrats didn’t care or act, and now everyone wants to get onto the DACA bandwagon... No longer works. Must build Wall and secure our borders with proper Border legislation. Democrats want No Borders, hence drugs and crime!

Mexico is making a fortune on NAFTA...They have very strong border laws - ours are pathetic. With all of the money they make from the U.S., hopefully they will stop people from coming through their country and into ours, at least until Congress changes our immigration laws!
"
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Apr 02 11:31:43
Racist Rod pisses himself in terror when he thinks about caravans of brown people.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Apr 02 11:35:32
even the filthy migrants know DACA doesn't apply... our president is less informed than shithole people


“I asked some of the migrants on the caravan what they thought about Trump saying they were going to the US for DACA. Some laughed and others said they thought (correctly) they wouldn’t qualify,” wrote Adolfo Flores, the BuzzFeed reporter traveling with the caravan, on Twitter.

“For whatever reason Trump is conflating two different issues, DACA and reasons these people are on the caravan. I’ve spoken with dozens of people who cite violence, instability, and poverty as reasons for leaving. Not one has mentioned DACA.”

http://thi...avan-daca-tweets-1936315f6fc7/
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 02 11:41:59
Just deploy the Army to the border with live ammunition and liberal engagement requirements.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Apr 02 12:00:52
perhaps do what we did last year as apparently it's an annual pilgrimage... which is probably process them via our current laws


rather than hearing the story on Fox & Friends & freaking out for 2 days without bothering to learn any additional info... so presidential
obaminated
Member
Mon Apr 02 12:33:16
Kill them! Kill them all!
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 02 12:51:34

Can't use the army because of posse comitatus.

All the illegals have to do is just get one foot on American soil and we have to let them in if they are claiming fugitive status.

We then process them and give them a court date that they don't show up for.


I think we should set up a tent city in the middle of the desert and make them wait there for their court date.

Paramount
Member
Mon Apr 02 13:11:56
It is mostly women and children, Hot Rod. I thought you liked children? Don’t you want them to have a better life?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 02 13:35:08

Did you get that filthy mouth from polishing your father's knob?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Apr 02 14:24:17
Trump's guests this weekend included Hannity, Judge Jeanine (female Hannity), and Don King

so he got packed w/ solid info i'm sure
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Apr 02 14:25:14
...and also the 'my pillow' guy whose ads are all over the place

beware the pillow
Paramount
Member
Mon Apr 02 16:07:44
Lol, I didn’t mean that you like children sexually, Hot Rod. I suspected that you might think that that was what I meant. But you have said yourself that you like children, you know in the normal way. So I thought that maybe if you like children then you would care about these children and wants to help them to a better life?
patom
Member
Mon Apr 02 18:56:46
I wonder if the Twitterman, after seeing how Israel lit up them Palestinians, will order the Border Patrol to do the dame.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 02 22:04:28

Paramount, I was just reacting to your past posts. There has been a number of them that was not so innocent.

Naturally, I feel sorry for the kids but there are millions in the world that are in the same boat or worse. We can't take care of all of them though I wish we could.

Most of this crowd that is coming are adults and have no right to enter this country. If Mexico were to do the right thing they would turn them around before they got anywhere near us.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 02 22:07:04

patom, Israel has a different problem than we do.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Apr 03 00:14:15
Racist Rod is losing sleep because of his fear of brown people.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 03 10:35:41
"
The big Caravan of People from Honduras, now coming across Mexico and heading to our “Weak Laws” Border, had better be stopped before it gets there. Cash cow NAFTA is in play, as is foreign aid to Honduras and the countries that allow this to happen. Congress MUST ACT NOW!
"

1,000 migrants have brought Trump to full panic

Canada might be thinking 'wtf?' about NAFTA... as well as all the Trump fans who benefit from NAFTA
Paramount
Member
Tue Apr 03 11:19:28
Hot Rod,

So if most them are adults, then maybe there is 10 children among them? Surely, the US is able to help 10 children?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 11:28:30

Since you are not a citizen my suggestion is that you contact President Trump directly. I have no idea what he will do.

One thing he will ***NOT*** do is strafe them with fighter jets.



Paramount
Member
Tue Apr 03 11:36:36
Why should I contact Trump? As you said I’m nota citizen and I didn’t even ask the question ”What Will President Trump Do About This”. It was you! So I suggest that you contact your president.
Paramount
Member
Tue Apr 03 11:49:50
”One thing he will ***NOT*** do is strafe them with fighter jets.”

Why not?

”our country is being stolen!” - Twitterman


Surely, the USA has the right to self defense if their country is about to be stolen?
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Apr 03 11:56:00
Hack Rod is so far up Trump's ass that if they did mow them down with guns, he'd find a way to defend it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 03 12:41:33
Trump says the military will be guarding the border

...then later the military will guard the cities against those vile democrats... and then the republicans who are paying attention

Rugian
Member
Tue Apr 03 13:14:58
It's clear what must be done...send Samuel L. Jackson to the border.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KPGyt3ZDv2Y
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 03 13:39:57
apparently the military is not allowed to intercept immigrants... damn you, Rutherford B. Hayes!

also Mexico is asking 'wtf he talkin about?' (paraphrase)

a good thing Trump consults people before spouting his mental flickers
Rugian
Member
Tue Apr 03 13:42:45
Posse comitatus only applies to the United States. It says nothing about deploying troops on the Mexican side of the border.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 03 13:46:43
Mexico might have a problem with us invading them

i suspect Trump wants to make this a military issue to push his idea of making military funding pay for his 'my precious' wall
Rugian
Member
Tue Apr 03 14:41:08
"Mexico might have a problem with us invading them"

By all means, let them try and stop it.
TJ
Member
Tue Apr 03 14:41:34
It seems you are saying Mexico would have a problem with 1k?_Americans on their border soil, but 1k? Hondurans isn't a problem when they cross the entire country?

What would Mexico do about it?
Rugian
Member
Tue Apr 03 14:44:30
http://upl...llaUncleSamBerrymanCartoon.png

We've done it before...we can and must do it again!
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 18:34:47

A case can be made that posse comitatus may not apply. Protecting the border just might be legal to use active-duty troops.

Also, Ike used active-duty troops to implement a segregation law back in the 50's. He sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock to force Gov. Orval Faubus to allow integration of a public high school.

But, Trump didn't make it clear if he intended active-duty, Reserves or National Guard.

However he does it, I believe it will be legal.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 03 18:54:26
i think the adults in the White House are once again covering for Trump and suggesting he meant just assistance from the National Guard

although they still won't be doing what Trump wants
TJ
Member
Tue Apr 03 18:56:21
See what the retired Colonel has to say.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a494995.pdf
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 03 19:45:34

Thanks, TJ. That answers the question I always had about how IKE got away with using the 101st to enforce a law.

smart dude
Member
Wed Apr 04 06:51:02
"What Will President Trump Do About This"

play golf?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 04 14:11:47

He has already solved the problem by calling up the National Guard. He is going to keep them on duty until he gets the money to finish the wall.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 04 14:33:00
the adults again covering for Trump claiming he only meant military would pay for walls on military land along border (said during press briefing at the moment)

...even though CRYSTAL CLEAR he meant military should pay for the whole thing
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 04 14:39:32
and she's lying that the sudden urgency by Trump wasn't about him hearing about the "army" of migrants on Fox & Friends (which is the word they used)

she claims immigration modeling suggests crossings go up in April yadda yadda... yeah, Trump seems like a guy who looks at reports

constant covering for the TV-obsessed idiot child
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 04 21:04:51

They just announced that National Guard Troops are on the way to the border as I type this.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 04 21:29:43
with no clear mission

a rushed incompetent roll-out as is typical with idiot child Trump
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 04 21:38:58

They will o what they always do when Presidents use them on the border.

They will be extra eyes on the border. If they see something suspicious they will contact the border patrol to come and investigate.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 04 21:44:22
*-do
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 04 22:58:56
the DHS spokeswoman couldn't say how many troops or where they were going in today's briefing... hadn't even gotten Governor's permissions

clearly a rushed rollout for the lil child so he would stop throwing a tantrum
Aeros
Member
Thu Apr 05 00:41:55
Posse Comitatus prohibits the US to use the military for domestic law enforcement. Border enforcement is not considered domestic as it applies internationally. Its why you can see armed US troops in American Airports during states of emergency like after 9-11.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Apr 05 05:33:50

Aeros. please read TJ,s post.

Tue Apr 03 18:56:21

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 05 11:57:51
The Mexican foreign ministry says U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen has told Mexico's top diplomat that U.S. National Guard troops being deployed to the border "will not carry arms or carry out migration or customs control activities."

Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray is in Washington on a visit. A foreign ministry statement issued Wednesday night says Nielsen told Videgaray that the troops will only be providing support for Department of Homeland Security work.

It says the deployment will be similar to ones in 2006 under President George Bush and in 2010 with President Barack Obama.

http://www...on-world/article207890329.html

just more theatrics from our reality show child prez


recall Trump said he was deploying the military... and no one had done anything like it before... obviously he wanted active duty troops enforcing the laws & he got smacked down by reality (maybe he should discuss things with adults who have knowledge first)
obaminated
Member
Thu Apr 05 14:08:57
So war with Mexico, whose in?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 05 14:18:24
“And yesterday it came out where this journey coming up, women are raped at levels that nobody has ever seen before”
~trumpenheimer


that's some serious raping, anyone know which Fox show he heard this on?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 05 14:47:40
he also restated that 'millions and millions' of people are voting illegally

having a total delusion liar child dictator, who only watches entertainment shows for his information, as president is fantastic! #MAGA!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Apr 06 11:10:55
it would seem Trump just made up the rampant rape claim... how unlike him

so we have, in just the past couple days:

---------------

Trump: "i'm sending the military to the border, no one has ever done anything like this before"

adults: "oh, he meant National Guard (even though no one ever says 'the military' when they mean National Guard... and that has been done before so again obviously not what he meant)

---------------

Trump: "And yesterday it came out where this journey coming up, women are raped at levels that nobody has ever seen before"

adults: "oh, he meant the reports that women do occasionally get raped by the coyotes (let's ignore the point of the large caravan was security, & no evidence of increased rape)

...plus they are claiming he's concerned about the womens' safety, when he's obviously just trying to say rapists are coming in as he did before "somebody's doing the raping, who's doing the raping?"

--------------------

Trump: "millions & millions" of fraud voters

adults: "oh, he meant we should make sure we do all we can to prevent fraud voting... (by stating a total lie, because he wants to pretend he won the popular vote)"

=====================

a total embarrassment... people always having to cover for his statements
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Apr 06 11:13:44
and it actually was more than that

his pulling out of Syria comments not sitting well w/ his advisors, so no way to rely on them

& his trade war comments being contradicted by his economic advisor


he's a one-man wrecking ball, a total moron president deciding to tell the entire world every thought before consulting people who have knowledge on the issues
Forwyn
Member
Fri Apr 06 16:24:57
Poor advisors want to stay in another quagmire and drag out our proxy war
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