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Paramount Member	Mon Apr 02 03:06:50 China Slaps Tariffs on U.S. Products China will impose a 25 percent tariff on American pork, an important moneymaker, especially in farming regions in states that voted for President Trump. BEIJING — The Chinese government hit back Monday at President Trump’s tariffs on steel and aluminum by acting on a threat to put tariffs as high as 25 percent on imports of 128 American-made products, including pork and seamless steel pipes. The Chinese Ministry of Commerce indicated that the tariffs, which it first publicly suggested almost two weeks ago, were intended to pressure the Trump administration to back down from a simmering trade war. In addition to imposing additional tariffs on steel and aluminum from China and other countries, President Trump has threatened to put protective duties on other Chinese-made products worth $60 billion. “We hope that the United States will rescind its measures that violate World Trade Organization rules as quickly as possible,” the ministry said in an online statement about China’s retaliatory tariffs. “China and the United States are the world’s two biggest economies, and cooperation is the only correct choice. Both sides should use dialogue and consultation to resolve their mutual concerns.” The Chinese retaliation was no surprise. But Beijing appeared to go a step beyond its initial threat last month to counter the United States’ tariffs on steel and aluminum. The Ministry of Commerce said then that it could impose tariffs in two stages: first, a 15 percent duty on 120 products, including fruit and wine, and then, after further assessing the impact of the United States’ tariffs, a 25 percent tariff on eight other products, including pork, an important moneymaker, especially in farming regions in states that voted for Mr. Trump. But the latest announcement said the tariffs that will take effect on Monday covered all 128 products, including the 25 percent charge on pork. The ministry said it had Chinese public opinion on its side after asking for views about the trade measures. Over recent weeks, China’s state-run news media has condemned the Trump administration’s protectionist steps and presented China as the innocent defender of open trade. In fact, China imposes relatively high barriers on many imports and on foreign investment in many sectors. “Many members of the public voiced their support for the measures and the product list through telephone calls, emails and other means,” the ministry said. “After an assessment, it was decided to implement the measures described on 128 products imported from the United States.” Mr. Trump’s threatened tariffs on $60 billion worth of other Chinese-made products are likely to prompt more retaliation from China, which could single out more valuable American exports such as soybeans and hurt Apple and other companies that rely heavily on Chinese consumers. Liu He, a Chinese vice premier and economic adviser to President Xi Jinping, told Steven Mnuchin, the American Treasury secretary, in a phone call just more than a week ago that the two countries should “stay rational and work together to maintain the overall stability of their economic and trade relations.” But Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, who has been visiting Beijing, said on Saturday that Chinese officials she met, including Mr. Liu, “have not deviated from their talking points” about the Trump administration’s tariffs. “America is waking up to the loss of its technological advantage through China’s restrictions on access to its internal markets,” she told reporters. “That is now a place where policy is beginning to change.” http://www...egion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news I heard wine and fruits was among the products there will be a tariff on. And pork of course. And 125 other products.
delude Member	Mon Apr 02 04:45:44 Ha, make America great again.
Allahuakbar Member	Mon Apr 02 07:16:02 "China will impose a 25 percent tariff on American pork" Good move, nobody should eat pork anyway.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Apr 02 07:45:50 Trump levels the playing field and China upsets the table. I would expect no less from the lying thieving snakes. Arab terrorists should be buried in pork.
patom Member	Mon Apr 02 09:08:42 China is the country with over a billion mouths to feed. Maybe they should be raising their own.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Apr 02 09:14:37 Good Question.
Paramount Member	Mon Apr 02 09:34:05 I think they are. They have the biggest pork production in the world.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 02 10:26:33 with our villainous EPA chief soon our pork may be as toxic as theirs
patom Member	Mon Apr 02 18:52:58 It's about time that we start loading all the toxic and poisonous products, that China has foisted on us, back into the empty containers that they came in. put them back on the ships and let China dump them in their own landfills.
Dukhat Member	Mon Apr 02 23:31:39 China's holding back. Biggest danger is if EU and China team up. Then US is fucked.
smart dude Member	Tue Apr 03 01:02:09 China raises about 10x more pigs than than the U.S. What kind of silly person would assume that China doesn't raise their own?
patom Member	Tue Apr 03 13:06:59 Obviously they don't raise enough or they wouldn't be importing any.
jergul large member	Tue Apr 03 13:54:41 Patom Seems trump finally did something you like. China is also a huge exporter of pork. Globalization.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 03 15:36:53 they probably take our pork and cut it with their 'pork' to export "pork"
jergul large member	Wed Apr 04 01:53:49 TW China has the best and the worst food safety on the planet. Some of their production chains are far better than European equivalents (I know people who check those things out).
Dukhat Member	Wed Apr 04 10:55:54 "far better" ... maybe from an efficiency standpoint. I'd rather eat things from EU in general because of safety and animal welfare concerns. I am not a Vegan but I become one whenever I visit east asian countries because of how horrible their treatment of animals is.
Hrothgar Member	Wed Apr 04 11:54:15 This was so obviously going to happen it's laughable if it's actually taking any of the Trump admin by surprise.
The Children Member	Wed Apr 04 11:58:33 boom balabam chikawawa owned u got owned, owned owned owned!
Paramount Member	Wed Apr 04 12:11:50 There’s more tariffs now. Soya beans, boeings, american cars, etc. China bought Volvo so they can produce their own cars now + they can buy european and japanese cars instead. France, Germany and Japan is gonna be happy. China can also buy Airbus from France instead of Boeing from USA. France is going to be very happy. China can also buy soya beans from Latin America and elsewhere. Latin America and Elsewhere is gonna be very happy.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Apr 04 16:36:24 Actually, they really are not tariffs yet. What the have is a collection of future tarries that they may impose if their talks fall through.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 05 01:37:12 Dukhat Animal well-being may not have been considered. So a point to you.
The Children Member	Sat Apr 07 09:36:21 damn u roundeyez. we will strike back HARD and totally cripple ur useless asses.
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