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Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Mon Apr 09 13:17:55
Good grief bad enough he died but the shame of living in the shithole that is Trump Tower.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43702404
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 09 13:26:03
It's great of the BBC to report the important stories, like the one about how the Trump Tower victim disliked living there. Those license fee revenues are definitely well spent.
Paramount
Member
Mon Apr 09 13:29:28
Fire don't kill people. People do. The police now needs find the one who is responsible letting the fire start. Who owns the tower for an example? The owner is ultimately responsible.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 09 13:40:20

No. The person who rents the apartment is at fault.

TJ
Member
Mon Apr 09 14:03:27
Depends, is the cause of the fire known?

Just saying.
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Mon Apr 09 15:06:47
Trump was too cheap for auto sprinkers
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 09 15:12:29
He's a property owner who wasn't legally obligated to install them. Is this surprising?
hood
Member
Mon Apr 09 15:19:10
No, just scummy. The focus on the dude not wanting to live in Trump tower was unnecessary. Justin point out that Trump is a shitty slum lord and be done with it.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 09 15:29:43
Is it actually scummy though? I mean, it probably knocks him out of the running for Landlord of the Year, but I'd expect it to be common that property owners wouldn't want to install new sprinklers until they legally had to.

Although then again, you are the resident expert on landlords.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Apr 09 18:29:06

Sprinklers were not required when the building was built back in the early 80's.

hood
Member
Mon Apr 09 19:29:24
"I'd expect it to be common that property owners wouldn't want to install new sprinklers until they legally had to."

Yeah, and those ones are scummy too.
hood
Member
Mon Apr 09 19:35:40
To expand:

I'm not calling Trump singularly scummy. All the people who didn't require buildings to be up to code within a reasonable time frame are scum.
Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Mon Apr 09 19:52:28
No. The person who rents the apartment is at fault.'

Assuming the fire started in their apartment, and was not due to wiring not being up to code or anything like that. What if was a faulty appliance and the fire was caused by a manufacturing defect? Now whoever manufactured the appliance is at fault.


Liability issues are not always as simple as your mind is Hot Rod.
Y2A
Member
Tue Apr 10 23:19:09
Slumlord
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 11 06:13:14

Or he fell asleep while smoking.


Sometimes they are.

murder
Member
Wed Apr 11 08:49:05

Or maybe he committed suicide because he couldn't take living in that shithole anymore.
Paramount
Member
Wed Apr 11 08:57:24
Or maybe Trump wanted him evicted so he had one of his goons to set the fire.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 11 09:05:28

I've said it before. I can't believe how silly you people are.

patom
Member
Thu Apr 12 15:13:55
Trump used this opportunity to brag about how well built his building is.
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