Utopia Talk / Politics / A new era of warfare

Paramount Member	Thu Apr 19 09:03:13 You Won’t Believe What Obama Says In This Video! We're entering an era in which our enemies can make anyone say anything at any point in time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ54GDm1eL0
smart dude Member	Thu Apr 19 09:13:24 I could tell immediately that either a) Obama has had a stroke or something or b) it's fake.
Seb Member	Thu Apr 19 09:28:09 smart dude: Yup, but consider that's using desktop tech.
Seb Member	Thu Apr 19 09:28:41 And that people will happily believe things that chime with what they would like to be true. E.g. "pope endorses trump".
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 19 09:30:44 There are also many people who will not notice any differences at all because they are gullible. This video is probably good enough for these people.
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 19 09:31:17 Yeah, what Seb said.
smart dude Member	Thu Apr 19 09:31:22 "Yup, but consider that's using desktop tech." Good point. It makes me wonder if "Trump" is the same thing on better Russian hardware and that the real Trump is dead or locked in a closet somewhere.
hood Member	Thu Apr 19 09:41:31 So now the entertainment industry is adapting the deepfake tech?
smart dude Member	Thu Apr 19 09:46:48 It's like that episode of BoJack Horseman, when they completely replace BoJack's movie scenes with a computer generated copy of him, or something.
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 19 10:08:07 "It makes me wonder if "Trump" is the same thing on better Russian hardware and that the real Trump is dead or locked in a closet somewhere." Has anyone here actually seen Trump in person? I can't tell what's real anymore.
Hrothgar Member	Thu Apr 19 10:36:28 The need for tying pics/video to a block chain type tech proof is becoming more and more needed. Basically a way to quickly check any media and see proof it's an original.
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 19 10:37:34 I think they have a doppleganger of Trump just like they had one on Obama. The real Obama was kept in a bunker under the White House, for safety reasons.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 19 10:42:34 People where getting fooled long before it got this good and it will just get better. We are so fucked.
smart dude Member	Thu Apr 19 10:47:42 My opinion is that "president" Obama was a digital doppelgänger from the very start and that the real Obama never even left his homeland Kenya.
smart dude Member	Thu Apr 19 10:48:22 My other opinion is that the only reason Trump grabs women by the pussy it to confirm that they are not, in fact, holograms.
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 19 10:48:36 Until we have a way of verifying what is real we can no longer trust what we see on tv and on the internet. I’m just going to call everything fake from now on. I’m not gullible.
Asgard Member	Thu Apr 19 12:47:24 ^Fake swede
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 19 12:57:44 He has gotten pretentious ever since his film was made. He is making fun of one of the most accomplished surgeons, ever, by implying a white man is controlling him.
hood Member	Thu Apr 19 13:56:59 "one of the most accomplished surgeons, ever" Try again. "My other opinion is that the only reason Trump grabs women by the pussy it to confirm that they are not, in fact, holograms." I am using that excuse. "Oh sorry, miss, I just needed to verify that you aren't a hologram. Technology is crazy these days."
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 19 14:25:23 Carson's surgery career is legit impressive. Though I suppose you could always argue that he's just an affirmative action beneficiary.
hood Member	Thu Apr 19 14:36:21 You could call just about any specialized surgeon impressive. The reality of a surgeon, however, is that they're a lot closer to the jocks of medicine, not the nerds. They bring the flash and the money, but at the end of the day they're just a pretty face representing the backbone of healthcare.
Seb Member	Thu Apr 19 14:40:38 Hrothgar: So I've thought about that kind of signature. The problem is that it only works for things where both the following are true: a. you implicitly trust the broadcaster and you are getting it direct from the broadcaster b. the individual in question wants to be on record. So if I'm Russia and I want to show a fake clip of Donald trump cracking one off over prostitutes doing golden showers on a bed, the fact it comes from some random camera, shown on youtube, and Donald isn't wearing his badge flashing his public key crypto... well that doesn't really matter because obviously it's not been covered by the MSM conspiracy, and Trump is going to want deniability. Basically, we are a bit screwed here. And this is not an accident by the way. The entire Russia info war strategy is to convince everyone that there is no such thing as a truth - not one that anyone can get to - so you might as well believe the Government line. "Anything is possible, nothing is the truth".
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 19 15:22:02 Seb, I'm sorry, are you seriously suggesting that it was the Russians who invented skeptism of government and media?
Seb Member	Thu Apr 19 15:23:55 Rugian: No. And I don't think, if you read my post very carefully, that is what I said or that that is something one could reasonably conclude from what I wrote. Would you like to try again?
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 19 15:46:22 Seb, My bad, this is what I get for skimming. Allow time to rephrase. I'm sorry, are you seriously suggesting that Russian strategy is to make Westerners believe their governments?
Seb Member	Thu Apr 19 15:59:15 No, but then a great deal of their information warfare is aimed at their own population. In the west, because we don't punish you for not believing your government, we just end up believing nothing. Which is great, because you have Jergul etc. believing the Russians don't do targeted assassinations with nerve agents.
Asgard Member	Thu Apr 19 16:38:07 He also thinks killing teenagers are a disco is an acceptable military target becayse they will be conscripted when they turn 18.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 19 18:22:42 Hood, he is the first surgeon in the world to successfully seperate conjointed twins. Not sure how or why you are shitting on his accomplishment beyond being a partisan prick.
hood Member	Thu Apr 19 19:08:47 I know English is difficult for you, but did you not just see me shit on all surgeons? Try again.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 19 19:38:36 Are you a medical person who had a hot surgeon steal your girl and thunder?
hood Member	Thu Apr 19 20:43:04 No, I'm just familiar with what makes the health system tick. It's kinda my job.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 19 22:45:48 hood, I have some really, really bad news for you. I shit on your sturgeon.
hood Member	Thu Apr 19 22:47:19 You should know that jewish people are very particular about their fish. Sturgeon are not in our diet.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 19 22:52:28 It was disguised as halibut.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 20 02:17:39 Seb: "Jergul etc. believing the Russians don't do targeted assassinations" I have no opinion on who did the poisoning. I do however find UKs evidence to be non-compelling and largely debunked.
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