Utopia Talk / Politics / Comey memos

tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 19 22:11:02 can read them here if interested, some redactions: http://www.../comey-memo-release/index.html total liar Trump has claimed they are all fake (& hasn't even read them of course... & never will as it's 15 pages, so at least 12 too many) they don't sound fake at all, nor would it make any sense for Comey to have written these out falsely at the time nothing super shocking, describes the standard self-absorbed, rambling Trump w/ not much we haven't heard already he seems particularly obsessed about McCabe since he had criticized McCabe so much, apparently assuming everyone is as petty & childish as himself... as a child would
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 19 22:14:37 ...and obsessed w/ the hookers
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 19 22:47:50 "James Comey Memos just out and show clearly that there was NO COLLUSION and NO OBSTRUCTION. Also, he leaked classified information. WOW! Will the Witch Hunt continue?" ~America's shame http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/987173366401585155 4 falsehoods... 1) show clearly that there was NO COLLUSION : <<FALSE, not even a topic>> 2) ...and NO OBSTRUCTION : <<FALSE>> 3) he leaked classified information : <<FALSE>> 4) Witch Hunt : <<FALSE>>
Dukhat Member	Fri Apr 20 00:30:44 Trump only gets away with this shit as long as Republicans control congress. Watch him shut up and get silent really quickly when Dems retake even the Senate this fall.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 20 00:31:50 a quality opinion piece tweeted out by Fox News " OPINION: Without a Comey prosecution, there’s no hope for healing America " http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/987177830218981376
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 20 22:57:11 here's Trump still not trying to fire Mueller as the totally reliable White House claims: (& misspelling counsel twice) " James Comey illegally leaked classified documents to the press in order to generate a Special Council? Therefore, the Special Council was established based on an illegal act? Really, does everybody know what that means? " http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/987529636656697345
TJ Member	Sat Apr 21 00:57:48 "(& misspelling counsel twice)" You are to eager with your propaganda.
TJ Member	Sat Apr 21 01:11:05 *I was too eager to hit the sack.
hood Member	Sat Apr 21 03:04:13 Truth isn't propaganda.
jergul large member	Sat Apr 21 08:31:56 I seldom do this: "information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions" Cambridge dictionary. The intent determines it seems. I am not being contrarian on principle. I was curious to see if the truth can be propaganda. I think it can by definition. We could likely think up all kinds of true things we could employ. The UK coined the term "Concentration Camp" for its treatment of civilians during the Boer war [True] Raising Concentration camp pedigree is whataboutism! [True] Yay.
TJ Member	Sat Apr 21 08:53:00 "here's Trump still not trying to fire Mueller as the totally reliable White House claims:" I'm fairly certain I understood the intention of that remark. As you wish, but not sure of all the talk about legislation to be presented so that it would be impossible for Trump to Fire Mueller. Trump is an agitator and enjoys triggering the left for entertainment. I hope everyone who deserves an ass kicking receives a ten on the scale, even if it is Trump. The world spins and I won't be holding my breath though.
TJ Member	Sat Apr 21 08:59:21 Edward, thanks for the counsel on propaganda. :)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 21 10:43:12 it is completely clear to me Trump is trying to fire Mueller (& has wanted to do it in the past as reports suggest, even though the continuous liar denies it)... plus he seems to be feeling freer to ignore advice from the adults lately so even more concerning it is extremely annoying when Republicans or the White House claim he's not doing so... 'he's just venting'... yeah, just 'venting' w/ total lies & smears broadcast to the world as the sitting President... very acceptable there was zero reason to attack both Rosenstein & Sessions when he went off on his tirade against the "attack on our country" raid of his lawyer's office other than laying reason to fire them news keeps saying 'Rosenstein can't fire Mueller without cause'... so that's why he keeps inventing 'causes', like this new bullshit one he is not joking w/ the left, he is doing what he always does & making his desires known to the globe hoping to drive up support & get Fox News to push that message (which they do every time)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 21 11:17:39 and consider all the damage done to the reputation of the FBI/Justice Dept with the campaign by Trump/Fox against the 'fake' dossier linking it to the devil Hillary who probably never knew a thing about it well, in the Comey memos: "I explained that the analysts from all three agencies agreed it was relevant and that portions of the material were corroborated by other intelligence" plus Nunes' own memo says Steele was a trusted source so COMPLETELY reasonable for the FBI to use that dossier info (which was never presented as 100% factual to begin with, just as raw intel & would've been used as such) so much disgusting behavior by this admin & that network
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