Utopia Talk / Politics / (OT) Poll: Civ 5 or EU IV

Paramount Member	Mon Apr 23 08:43:57 Which game would you rather play? Civilization 5 or Europa Universalis 4?
Sam Adams Member	Mon Apr 23 09:47:40 Civ 4
Paramount Member	Mon Apr 23 09:58:41 Is Civ 4 better than Civ 5?
Daemon Member	Mon Apr 23 10:18:53 I save my time until the Donald Trump simulator 1.0 is released.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 23 10:48:16 Civ 5 is only 1 military unit per tile (no more stacks), there's a hex map, cities have a built-in defense, cities expand 1 tile at a time rather than a radius increase, units have health levels so don't tend to die from a single lost battle (not sure which Civ that changed in actually), some economy changes that i don't recall i never played EU IV
Paramount Member	Mon Apr 23 10:54:30 So I made a quick google and Civ 4 seems to be the most popular Civ. Civ 5 seems to be popular too. People doesn’t seem to like Civ 6 too much yet.
Nekran Member	Mon Apr 23 10:56:31 Civ 4 was a great civ in its day, but I do like the end of the huge unit-stacks since Civ 5. Civ 6 is better than Civ 5 imo.
yankeessuck123 Member	Mon Apr 23 11:33:41 EU4 is fantastic and clearly the best choice here
Delude Member	Mon Apr 23 11:49:51 Use the workshop. Makes your civ games whole new experiences.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Apr 23 11:58:58 Doing away with huge stacks by game rule is pretty stupid, as "huge stacks" was the rule in military history until ww1, and still exists at sea. Let the user decide whether or not to use huge stacks on their own, based on their interpretation of collateral damage. Civ 4 rocks.
Asgard Member	Mon Apr 23 12:06:23 Master of Orion 2 forever
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 23 12:07:30 I just used Prussian space marines for the first time. EUIV is the shit.
Aeros Member	Mon Apr 23 13:21:32 I logged waaaaay more hours in EU IV then Civ V, so...
Sam Adams Member	Mon Apr 23 13:35:45 Master of orion 1 and 2 are also awesome.
Paramount Member	Mon Apr 23 14:07:47 EU IV Empire Founder Pack cost €85,46 on Steam. That’s a lot of money for a game. Maybe if they drop the price by -50% then I’ll get it.
Dukhat Member	Mon Apr 23 15:56:02 EU IV, like all Paradox games, takes like 20 hours to really learn in the beginning. I like Empire Total War with Darth Mod because it focuses mostly on the battles and less on the other minutae.
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 23 15:56:44 Waaaaah learning curves waaaaah
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Apr 23 20:30:31 I never played CIV 4 or eu iv. But, I'm hooked on CIV 5.
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