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superdude
Member
Tue Apr 24 12:31:52
creating ISIS

weaponizing the intelligence agencies as political tools

gutted the military

imploded healthcare system

8 years of stagnant economy

decimated the Democrat party at the local level

$20 trillion defeciet
Paramount
Member
Tue Apr 24 12:34:06
”creating ISIS”

That was Saudi Barbaria on Israel’s initiative.
Superdud
Member
Tue Apr 24 12:35:03
Hot rod and I love facts.
hood
Member
Tue Apr 24 12:36:46
Someone must be feeling inadequate if they're making this thread.

You ok? Home life treating you well? Anyone die? Feeling angsty over the current disaster of an administration? What's up? Let's talk.
superdude
Member
Tue Apr 24 13:03:03
You ok? yes
Home life treating you well?yes
Anyone die? no one I know uses obamacare
Feeling angsty over the current disaster of an administration? to be honest I'm worried that Dems are planning a coup but Trump is strong and has balls of steel.

Superdud
Member
Tue Apr 24 13:22:23
Totally delusional
hood
Member
Tue Apr 24 13:49:29
Ah, that's the problem. Paranoid delusions. There are medications that might help, but the reality here is that you're just going to have to work through your issues. Talking to someone helps, but they'll need to be willing to set you straight and be firm with you.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 24 17:50:46
Obama has a mediocre legacy... did some dumb things... didnt do anything too out of control. Not many important issues came up... he had bin laden killed in pakistan... that was cool.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 24 18:52:22

It took him 12 hours to decide whether or not to kill OBL. IIRC.



hood
Member
Tue Apr 24 19:13:26
"Obama has a mediocre legacy... did some dumb things... didnt do anything too out of control."

I feel like this could have gone very differently if republitards weren't so feral over dumb shit like birther or Benghazi shit. Obama's dumb shit could go real bad if abused. But so much was obsessed over that it gave cover to the bad (domestic surveillance). And, of course, some of the good he did is greatly minimized by those same feral tards.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Apr 24 20:00:00

What d you mean by, "some of the good?"

Obamacare?

Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 24 23:48:32
"It took him 12 hours to decide whether or not to kill OBL. IIRC. "

If true, thats warp fucking speed for dc. It takes those retarded bureaucrats 12 hours to decide to change the timing on a streetlight, normally.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 00:01:53

Yes.

But killing OBL was a no-brainer for one man to just say, go.

hood
Member
Wed Apr 25 00:16:48
Yeah, it's a complete no brainer to invade an allied country with a spec ops team. It certainly doesn't take time for a president to digest a proposed op and weigh pros/cons.

There's a difference between being deliberate and just wasting time. There's no indication that Obama wasted time with his decision to kill OBL. Dunno why you care about the specific number of hours (which incidentally supports my comments about republitards focusing too much on bullshit).
patom
Member
Wed Apr 25 05:54:16
What no Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Truman, bashing? Benghazi!!!! E-Mails!!!!! Tehran!!!!! Vietnam!!!!! Korea!!!!!!

Forget the man behind the screen.
Superdud
Member
Wed Apr 25 06:31:29
My Trump administration is so abysmal that I have to cling to my Obama's and Clinton's that pale in comparison to the travesty that exists as we fall in ranks compared to other countries.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 07:32:05

hood, we have special ops people in other countries all of the time spying on their actions.

What? Do you think that Navy Seals and Force Recon just sit around the barracks all of the time waiting to go into a country that invites them?

I don't think so.

If I were to guess I would guess they are involved in a half dozen Ops, or more, as I type this.

But, that is just a guess.


In Hawaii, I had a Marine Corps friend that told me once that a Force Recon member that lived up the street from him would disappear every once in awhile for weeks or even months at a time. No one knew where he went or what he was doing.

Cold Rod
Member
Wed Apr 25 07:49:05
And this does not apply to the point that hood was making.

You are so unbelievably stupid.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 08:01:56

It applies directly to his 'opinion'. It is right there in his first sentence.


"Yeah, it's a complete no brainer to invade an allied country with a spec ops team."


Hood, appears to be saying that sending a unit into Pakistan is a big deal. It is not because we do it all of the time.


But then, Obama doesn't know the difference Marine Corps and Marine corpse.

I'm sure we all remember that little faux pas.

hood
Member
Wed Apr 25 08:06:33
Your opinions are worthless. You are worthless. Please be a role model for Trump and stroke out.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 08:14:25

Your post was wrong.

I corrected you because you have no idea what you are talking about.


BTW, mine was not an opinion, it was fact.

Of course, we all know that you liberals care nothing for facts.

hood
Member
Wed Apr 25 08:24:58
Your delusions may feel real, but that doesn't make it so. You have a known track record for being wrong, nearly as often as dukhat. You are best left in a smashed urn, crisped into dust after the end of a useless life. Break free of your decisions and make your future a reality.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Apr 25 09:19:43
Obama's legacy, if measured in the usual ways that modern US presidencies are measured is remarkable. Meaning, compare the state of country that he was given by GWB to the country he passed to Donald. Unemployment rate, economic growth, yearly budget deficit, number of ppl without health insurance, stock market, corporate profits, consumer confidence, etc, I don't know what other president in modern history beats obama's numbers, how all of those indicators improved over the eight years. If he was a republican, they'd be renaming Reagan airport for him today
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Apr 25 09:20:54
"decimated the Democrat party at the local level "

every modern US president had the same affect on his party down ballot, at least as far back as reagan
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 10:24:04

hood, you are full of crap.

You know I am right so you cannot dispute me with facts so you resort to tawdry name calling like some teenager with pimples.

In our little corner of the world that is the liberal equivalent of trotting out whores and porn stars to be used against a conservative when they have no argument.

Just look at the crap the liberals have been throwing at President Trump ever since he was legally nominated to be President.


You liberals really do suck. You are about to be wiped off the face of the earth.

hood
Member
Wed Apr 25 10:34:16
"You know I am right so you cannot dispute me with facts so you resort to tawdry name calling like some teenager with pimples."

Inaccurate. I am familiar with you and recognize the futility of attempting to correct your erroneous though processed. I realize that you have a difficult time grasping simple words and concepts. Thus, I deem it a complete waste of time to attempt to have debate with you a very high percent of the time. Thus, I just point out how fucking useless you are.


"In our little corner of the world that is the liberal equivalent of trotting out whores and porn stars to be used against a conservative when they have no argument."

See? Completely fucking irrelevant. And completely fucking inaccurate. But you are old and stupid, so it is understandable from just about any other perspective as to why you don't comprehend this basic stuff.


"Just look at the crap the liberals have been throwing at President Trump ever since he was legally nominated to be President."

Facts? You mean provable facts? Yeah, the horror of pointing out facts.


"You liberals really do suck. You are about to be wiped off the face of the earth."

And you're a genocidal racist. Your kind was already wiped off the face of the Earth (for all practical purposes). Your irrelevancy here does not go unnoticed as a contribution to your general worthlessness and the attitude/perspective you adopted.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 10:50:31

hood, "Inaccurate. I am familiar with you and recognize the futility of attempting to correct your erroneous though processed."



That is a very clear example of your childishness. I have been wrong in the past so you proclaim I can never ever be right.

Not even once ever.

You are even more stupid than dukhat, or at least tied with him for rank stupidity.


I bet you never even heard of Force Recon or anything about their mission. Did you know if they fire a shot most of their missions would be declared a failure?


Your stupidity is unbearable.

Keep on ranting with your name calling, all it does is prove you are indeed a far left liberal that supports Black Lives Matter and Antifa and those types of organizations designed to keep the people under their thumbs.


-30-

hood
Member
Wed Apr 25 10:57:02
"That is a very clear example of your childishness. I have been wrong in the past so you proclaim I can never ever be right.

Not even once ever."

A very clear example of your repugnant stupidity. Every conclusion you made in this quote is laughably wrong.

Go fucking die already. You are a waste.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 11:04:19

Then why don't you debate my comments instead of ranting without knowing anything about what you are ranting about?


Can't do it, can you?

Rugian
Member
Wed Apr 25 11:06:34
Obama's primary legacy is turning the GOP into a party of deficit hawks for six years. Too bad it didn't last after he left office.
hood
Member
Wed Apr 25 11:24:02
"Then why don't you debate my comments"

Evidence that hot rod cannot internalize anything he reads.

I'll repeat: it is not worthwhile to debate you because you are fucking stupid, completely illogical, do not understand words, and make completely fucking irrelevant comments that you stupidly think are relevant.

But it's really amusing to insult you and see you get angry. Hopefully one day, a blood vessel will pop.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Apr 25 11:24:15
Dont confuse terms, rugian. GOP has never been hawkish on deficits. At least since Reagan. Any budget deficit is perfectly fine, as long as it caused by revenue plunge due to tax cuts. Spending for deficit, now that's no no, with the honorable exception for the military.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 11:32:40

"I'll repeat: it is not worthwhile to debate you because you are fucking stupid, completely illogical, do not understand words, and make completely fucking irrelevant comments that you stupidly think are relevant."


TRANSLATION =


hood knows absolutely nothing about the subject and does not even know where to start a rebuttal.

I accept your admission of defeat.

Have a nice day.




Memory Lane
Member
Wed Apr 25 11:38:39
I remember when hot rod claims to know any subject matter. But is always shown how deficient he is on it.

I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 11:40:48

^^^Forum Drunk known for remembering things that never happened.

Memory Lane
Member
Wed Apr 25 11:55:15
I remember when hot claimed this but UP archivists shows up or I take the time to exploit hot rod's greatest hits.

I drink an remember things.
Cold Rod
Member
Wed Apr 25 11:56:13
Hot "Mr. 1000% discount" Rod.

LOL
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Apr 25 18:03:13

LOL, so none of you can offer a decent rebut.

Cool.

Cold Rod
Member
Wed Apr 25 19:23:18
Is that what it is, hot rod?
murder
Member
Fri Apr 27 14:04:15

"gutted the military"

This one always kills me. We have the best everything in the world and soldiers stationed all over the planet ... but our military is "gutted".

I believe the word you were looking for is "bloated".


Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Apr 27 22:13:36

HR - You liberals really do suck. You are about to be wiped off the face of the earth.

An even more accurate prediction now that Candace Owens is gaining popularity.




murder, an adequate military for us is to be capable of fighting two ground wars on different parts of the Globe.

A gutted military is to be able to fight only one ground war at a time, perhaps not even one very well.

Plus our equipment is badly in need of repair or replacement. Then there are the near future new weapons our people will be using.

murder
Member
Sun Apr 29 10:30:44

"murder, an adequate military for us is to be capable of fighting two ground wars on different parts of the Globe."

No, an adequate military for us is one that can keep the US safe. We could slash our defense budget in half and still be grossly overspending on defense.

There is zero need for the US to fight a ground war anywhere except North America if that ever became necessary.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Apr 29 12:26:08
Racist Rod wants to make sure we can maximize our brown person kill numbers.
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