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Paramount
Member
Wed May 02 11:22:43
Is Trump the most fake president in history?


Exclusive: Bornstein claims Trump dictated the glowing health letter

CNN) — When Dr. Harold Bornstein described in hyperbolic prose then-candidate Donald Trump's health in 2015, the language he used was eerily similar to the style preferred by his patient.

It turns out the patient himself wrote it, according to Bornstein.

"He dictated that whole letter. I didn't write that letter," Bornstein told CNN on Tuesday. "I just made it up as I went along."

The admission is an about face from his answer more than two years when the letter was released and answers one of the lingering questions about the last presidential election. The letter thrust the eccentric Bornstein, with his shoulder-length hair and round eyeglasses, into public view.

"His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary," he crowed in the letter, which was released by Trump's campaign in December 2015. "If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency."

The missive didn't offer much medical evidence for those claims beyond citing a blood pressure of 110/65, described by Bornstein as "astonishingly excellent." It claimed Trump had lost 15 pounds over the preceding year. And it described his cardiovascular health as "excellent."

The White House didn't respond to a request for comment about Bornstein's claim.

Later, as questions mounted over the health both of Trump and his rival Hillary Clinton, Bornstein offered a more businesslike assessment, listing things such as Trump's height, weight and prescription medications.

He later told CNN's Drew Griffin he'd dashed off the first letter as he was seeing patients.

"I was just rushed for time," he said in September 2016. "I had people to see."

He insisted then that the words were his own.

"Did I really write that letter? Yeah," he said.

Now, as Bornstein re-enters the spotlight claiming Trump's ex-bodyguard Keith Schiller robbed his office when Schiller retrieved Trump's medical records, the story behind the letter is becoming clearer.

"That's black humor, that letter. That's my sense of humor," he said. "It's like the movie 'Fargo': It takes the truth and moves it in a different direction."

He said Trump read out the language as Bornstein and his wife were driving across Central Park.

"(Trump) dictated the letter and I would tell him what he couldn't put in there," he said. "They came to pick up their letter at 4 o'clock or something."

http://edi...nstein-trump-letter/index.html
murder
Member
Wed May 02 13:40:07

"Is Trump the most fake president in history?"

He's certainly the most shameless liar ever.



Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Wed May 02 13:54:10
Finally a President bold enough to lie about his health records.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 02 14:33:18
fraud gonna fraud
patom
Member
Wed May 02 14:44:09
Well if he knows more about war than all the Generals. Who wouldn't think that he knows more about medicine that all the Doctors.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed May 02 14:49:06

PRESIDENT Trump has already done more for The American People than the last four Presidents combined.

Cold Rod
Member
Wed May 02 15:15:31
As in?
Paramount
Member
Wed May 02 15:24:27
I think Hot Rod means that he has lied more to the people than the last four presidents combined.
kargen
Member
Wed May 02 18:47:14
Nah he didn't fake his own health. he helped choose the words to describe his health. His annual physical at the White House supports the claims he was in good health during the campaign.
American Democrat
Member
Wed May 02 18:50:26
Oh is that it? Interesting, so the White House physical supports: "If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency."

and

"has "extraordinary" stamina and physical strength "

Fascinating, all that is supported....

How is that now faked?
American Democrat
Member
Wed May 02 18:50:38
Pardon... *not faked.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 02 19:03:49
it would fit the theory many people are talking about that he is in league w/ Satan... who apparently has imbued him with supernatural strength & stamina
kargen
Member
Wed May 02 21:22:59
No no no I was very clear in stating that he didn't fake the health and the words to describe his health were his own.

Fake would be if his blood pressure were 133/90 and he claimed 110/65.

How the 110/65 was described has nothing at all to do with whether the health was fake or not.
murder
Member
Fri May 04 07:08:14

" His annual physical at the White House supports the claims he was in good health during the campaign."

You believe that Trump weighs 239 pounds?

It's pretty clear that Ronny Jackson traded his integrity for an appointment as head of the VA.

So in other words, for nothing. lol :o)



murder
Member
Fri May 04 07:28:46

Hell, do you believe that Trump is 6'3? lol :o)



patom
Member
Fri May 04 10:27:12
Murder, I think that is why Comey was fired. Trump hates looking up to people.
murder
Member
Fri May 04 13:33:56

I guess Trump couldn't find 8 inch lifts. :o)

Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun May 06 05:16:53
Trump is the first POTUS elected based on a post modern epistimiology. If he is the last, remains to be seen, but clearly there is potential in not having a limite scope for what is ”true”.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 05:24:53

"...Bornstein offered a more businesslike assessment, listing things such as Trump's height, weight, and prescription medications."


I cannot see where PRESIDENT Trump lied.

Yes, he juiced it up for political reasons where his doctor would have written a boring list of facts.

So, where is the lie if you think there is one?

Paramount
Member
Sun May 06 06:48:31
”His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary,"

^ a lie. Compared to the vast majority his strength and stamina are not extraodrinary.

"If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency."

^ a lie. Clinton, Obama, and many others, had better health, strength and stamina.

He just made up everything without having any proof. It is called lying.
Delude
Member
Sun May 06 09:35:53
Its like making a DnD character sheet based upon the language used.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 12:28:13

And I should just roll over and take your word fur it why?

Why?



BTW, did "Clinton, Obama, and many others" get by on 3 or 3 hours of sleep a nih=ght?

Delude
Member
Sun May 06 12:45:56
So funny that you still believe so many lies. His pecker is literally up your ass isn't it?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 14:09:10

So, where is your proof?


Where?

Delude
Member
Sun May 06 14:11:55
You're not even making sense. Lol
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 14:24:09

That is not proof.

I am making perfect sense. Maybe you should find out what we are talking about.


Delude
Member
Sun May 06 15:48:47
Provide proof that he is superhuman, rod.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 16:14:26

You guys made the claim, prove he isn't.

Delude
Member
Sun May 06 16:24:08
Its proven everyday he walks the earth an as we see him on TV.
hood
Member
Sun May 06 18:08:45
"You guys made the claim, prove he isn't."

1. "prove a negative". You're stupid.

2. Trump made the health related claims. Burden of proof lies on him (or in this case: you, as you support his claims). You're stupid.

3. The guy is over 70. There's no way he is going to ever be considered "the healthiest president ever" against the likes of a JFK or an Obama, who were perfectly healthy < 50 year olds. Even a mint condition 70 year old just doesn't compare to an in-good-health 45 year old. You're stupid.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 18:20:55

JFK had a really bad back that required him to use a wheelchair.

Oslima's was mental plus he smoked.

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