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FoxNEWS
Member
Thu May 03 15:23:45
Trump has had a change of heart about be truthful.

Months passes by that Trump has declared he had no knowledge that a payment of hush money was paid to Stormy Daniels.

But then the newly acquired attorney Ex. Mayor Rudy Giuliani stated differently that he knew about the payment.

The White House with "lazy eye" Sarah Huckabee Sanders declared that Trump had no knowledge. But now the truth shall set you free. "I gave the best information I had at the time."

This is the new defense. The WH also continued to say that Trump "eventually learned" that he had paid the hush money. The truth shall set you free.

Trumpicantards rejoice about truth!
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu May 03 16:19:55

PRESIDENT Trump keeps Cohen on retainer to take care of legal expenses and stuff that he hasn't time to keep track of.

Cohen reimbursed himself from the monthly payments for the retainer. No need for Trump to know what he was paying with the retainer.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu May 03 16:20:47

But you keep on lying, the truth means nothing to you anyway.

FoxNEWS
Member
Thu May 03 17:04:38
Mr. Hot Rod,

We appreciate you taking the time to respond to another edition of and editorial at UFN. Let us take the time to respond to you accordingly of the points you chose to bring up.

"PRESIDENT Trump keeps Cohen on retainer to take care of legal expenses and stuff that he hasn't time to keep track of. "

This was not the focus of that and is completely irrelevant to what is the focus of the investigation. Which is actually on record is that Comrade Trump specifically stated that he did not pay the money nor did his lawyer Cohen. As he also deferred in statements for him to be asked.

Comrade Trump also directed the White House to give the official response of him denying he had any knowledge of what transpired and that he did not pay any "hush" money.

Which leads to the next point you brought up:

"Cohen reimbursed himself from the monthly payments for the retainer. No need for Trump to know what he was paying with the retainer. "

Then explain Mr. Hot Rod as to why Trump is having his current lawyer Rudy Giuliani give interviews stating that Trump new exactly what the money was used for and reimbursed Cohen?

"But you keep on lying, the truth means nothing to you anyway. "

Would you like to point out what is untruthful and support it with sources since you are claiming you have a better grasp. We are all about facts and encourage opinions supported by facts.

Regards!

-UFN Staff
murder
Member
Thu May 03 17:09:47

Hot Rod: Just stop.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu May 03 17:10:32

That's a good job of lying there.

Keep it up and you will catch up with cold rod before you know it.

FoxNEWS
Member
Thu May 03 17:12:47
Mr. Hot Rod,

We invited you to address any particulars that find inaccurate. Still waiting, thanks!

-UFN Staff
Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Thu May 03 19:47:50
'his is the new defense. The WH also continued to say that Trump "eventually learned" that he had paid the hush money. The truth shall set you free.'


It's possible that he didn't know about the payment at the time it was made. Trump is used to having very high legal costs, so he probably just signs off on lawyer bills without question.

Really rich people don't care what things cost, they don't need to worry about it. Trump cares more about appearance than anything else, so he wouldn't want to act poor by actually going over the bill!
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu May 03 21:21:19

I don't think I said that your post contains lies, even though it does.

I was just filling some of the gaps you left out.

For whatever reason.

smart dude
Member
Thu May 03 22:01:55
"That's a good job of lying there."

"I don't think I said that your post contains lies"

rofl
hood
Member
Thu May 03 22:15:23
"It's possible that he didn't know about the payment at the time it was made."

No it isn't. Rich people know what they're spending their money on. They might not care what the total comes out to be, but they absolutely know where it's going. The more likely scenario is that Cohen told Trump he needed money for legal matters and informed Trump that he shouldn't share more for plausible deniability. But Trump knew money was being spent.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri May 04 01:47:17

hood - Rich people know what they're spending their money on.


Cohen was on a retainer. PRESIDENT Trump gives him X-number of dollars on a regular basis to take care of his legal matters. The matters are not always itemized.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri May 04 02:01:08

Your lie is your implication that Sarah purposely told a lie.

There is your lie.

Unless, of course, you have positive proof that she purposely lied to the WH News Corps.

FoxNEWS
Member
Fri May 04 04:48:30
Mr. Hot Rod,

You've stated;
"Thu May 03 21:21:19
I don't think I said that your post contains lies, even though it does."

This appears to be contradictory considering what you said to disqualify your declaration previously;

"Thu May 03 17:10:32
That's a good job of lying there."

We understand that some readers and participants in our threads have learning disabilities or limited comprehension skills. We take into account and considerations on how we address or present articles or editorials with people like you in mind. But sometimes we do meet our match.

Regardless, it seems again you are emphatically stating our post has lies and you specifically cited this;

Fri May 04 02:01:08
"Your lie is your implication that Sarah purposely told a lie.

There is your lie.

Unless, of course, you have positive proof that she purposely lied to the WH News Corps."

Mr. Hot Rod,

How is anything we said inaccurate, is it or is it not true that the WHPS 1) represents the United States Government and 2) The President, senior executives, and policies.

Is what we said inaccurate as WHPS Sarah Huckbee Sanders stated officially back in March 2018 that Trump did not pay any hush money to Stormy Daniels?

Then we stated in our OP the following;
"The White House with "lazy eye" Sarah Huckabee Sanders declared that Trump had no knowledge...and "eventually learned" that he paid the hush money."

And continued to state; "I gave the best information I had at the time."

Please point out any lie we posted and what sources do you have to support your accusations?

Regards,

-UFN Staff

jergul
large member
Fri May 04 06:04:07
HR
Do you have positive proof hood is lying when he says Sarah is lying?

Hood seems to be sharing what he believes to be true, so would not be lying by the standards you choose to use for such things.
hood
Member
Fri May 04 06:33:34
"Cohen was on a retainer."

Retainer doesn't cover extra expenses like hush money.
murder
Member
Fri May 04 07:11:46

Seriously. If it did, it wouldn't have needed to be repaid.

Of course, this story is still bullshit. But eventually the truth will come out.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri May 04 11:23:05
"It's possible that he didn't know about the payment at the time it was made."

No it isn't. Rich people know what they're spending their money on. They might not care what the total comes out to be, but they absolutely know where it's going. The more likely scenario is that Cohen told Trump he needed money for legal matters and informed Trump that he shouldn't share more for plausible deniability. But Trump knew money was being spent.'

Yes, you are correct. I did fuck up there. He knew he spent the money. It's hard to prove at which point he knew who it went too though.
murder
Member
Fri May 04 13:32:40

No it's not. Trump keeps close track of his enemies and anyone trying to squeeze a nickle out of him.

Cold Rod
Member
Sun May 06 14:13:13
Hot rod sure did run away from this.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 14:38:05

jergul - Hood seems to be sharing what he believes to be true, so would not be lying by the standards you choose to use for such things.


That is exactly what I am doing. I believe that Sarah did not lie and the OP implies she did and I don't believe the poster was speaking of Sarah's Amblyopia when he referred to "lazy eye."

I assume I am entitled to an opinion. My opinion is he is lying.


Aren't I?


FoxNEWS
Member
Sun May 06 15:42:18
Mr. Hot Rod,

You were addressed and requested to provide any sources to support since you are claiming we are lying. Again, where are our inaccuracies to what was presented?

Regards,

-UFN Staff
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 16:09:01

I have no evidence, just an opinion.

Which is all I need.


BTW, I already explained how I reached my opinion. Perhaps you should read my posts sometime.

FoxNEWS
Member
Sun May 06 16:22:55
Mr. Hot Rod,

In regards to your opinion, you have nothing to support it. You've made a claim. We provided an editorial as well as actual quotes that presents itself as she was untruthful and that extends itself to Trump who has been shown to be a liar and has lied. Then it was again corroborated by Trump's new attorney, Rudy Giuliani.

Nonetheless, you have admitted your error that you have no evidence and that what we said is entirely accurate.

Appreciate your patronage.

-UFN Staff
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 18:12:09


I'm sure glad the Democrats never ever lie.

Politics would sure be a big mess if they did.



I cannot imagine any spokesperson, democrat or republican, giving a White House Press Conference and stand up there and purposely tell lies to The White House Press Corps.

Furthermore, anyone who thinks different is certifiably insane and should have their tongue cut out and the hands cut off so they could never express such a stupid concept again.

You are even much more fucked up than I thought before.

FoxNEWS
Member
Sun May 06 18:19:54
Mr. Hot Rod,

"I'm sure glad the Democrats never ever lie.

Politics would sure be a big mess if they did. "

No relevance and this is a "whataboutism" that you are using to divert from the matter at hand.

"I cannot imagine any spokesperson, democrat or republican, giving a White House Press Conference and stand up there and purposely tell lies to The White House Press Corps. "

Mr. Hot Rod, there are plenty of examples of her spreading misinformation.

"Furthermore, anyone who thinks different is certifiably insane and should have their tongue cut out and the hands cut off so they could never express such a stupid concept again.

You are even much more fucked up than I thought before. "

Mr. Hot Rod, we understand that it can be detrimental for those with learning disabilities and shown their mistakes repeatedly. It may cause people to become irrational. Luckily at UFN we understand those difficulties and try not to pass judgement.

Regards,
-UFN Staff

One more thing, thank you for admitting your error once again.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 06 18:23:43

"Mr. Hot Rod, there are plenty of examples of her spreading misinformation."

Purposely?


You are wasting my time...


FoxNEWS
Member
Wed May 16 02:11:31
Mr. Hot Rod,

It has been established what her role is and thus responsibilities that come in tow. This was also explained to you earlier in the post. Once again we do care for those with learning disabilities and if you need us to repeat it for you in some sort of format for you to understand all you need to do is to ask.

As for the intention, one could argue while the parameters and conditions established due to her role that it is most likely a given that it would be purposely. Again, there is plenty of examples of her doing it.

Regards,

-UFN Staff
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