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Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 05:45:13
I am better than you.

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/696860

Many scholars argue that people who attribute human characteristics to genetic causes also tend to hold politically and socially problematic attitudes. More specifically, public acceptance of genetic influences is believed to be associated with intolerance, prejudice, and the legitimation of social inequities and laissez-faire policies. We test these expectations with original data from two nationally representative samples that allow us to identify the American public’s attributional patterns across 18 diverse traits. Key findings are (1) genetic attributions are actually more likely to be made by liberals, not conservatives; (2) genetic attributions are associated with higher, not lower, levels of tolerance of vulnerable individuals; and (3) genetic attributions do not correlate with unseemly racial attitudes.
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Once you accept evolutionary theory and that it applies to human behavior. That you do not choose your genes and that "free will" is an illusion. From there it is pretty straight path to increased tolerance towards others. There are the odd cases of eugenics, but hey! I said I am better than you, not perfect!

Regional differences in IQ in 22 countries and their economic, social and demographic correlates: A review.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016028961730212X
Fat Fag
Member
Tue May 15 06:26:27
"then"
Sam Adams
Member
Tue May 15 06:58:23
"politically and socially problematic attitudes."

Lol. How very unbiased.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue May 15 07:00:29
Although i do agree of course that genes actually exist. Lol@seb.
hood
Member
Tue May 15 07:47:59
All this does is point to the correlation of racists et al and their attempts to validate their misused opinions through "science."

Yes, it's a pretty real correlation. We've literally known about this forever. We had an entire world war because of it. But I can see how some of you will interpret this beyond the obvious and feel prosecuted by the results.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 08:16:43
Hood
The Nazis are not representative for the modern understanding of genetics. I don’t understand you post and how it relates to the study, that people like me, advocates of evolutionary psychology and behavioral genetics, are likely to be liberals and tolerant towards others.
hood
Member
Tue May 15 08:18:56
....

-slowly backs away-

I read the first half, skimmed the rest. My apologies.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 08:20:30
Also,

Then = time, than = comparison.

Epic fail grammar nazi fag.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 08:21:33
Hood
Fair enough.
Rugian
Member
Tue May 15 08:31:24
Stupid nimatzo, it's "then."


Anyway, this thread is almost certainly going to turn into a shitstorm soon enough, but before it does: is there a practical example of how such beliefs result in greater levels of tolerance?
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 08:50:06
I may be missing a piece of this than/then puzzle.
hood
Member
Tue May 15 08:57:36
"Stupid nimatzo, it's "then.""

I don't think it is, but I'll gladly accept some proof. Unless we're just making fun of ibty for getting it wrong.
TJ
Member
Tue May 15 09:06:51
Nebraska
obaminated
Member
Tue May 15 09:19:35
Rugian is pretty good with words, i am gonna assume he was going for a joke but was too subtle about it. Nim is correct to use than, it is funny that fat fag fucked up.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 09:21:26
Rugian
I explain it fairly shortly from my perspective at the end of the OP. You did not pick your genes, wether they are a boon or a curse. You did not pick your parent and you did not pick you geographic location to be born in. And thus you did not have a hand or say in all the things that are central to the person you are today.

The free will part is a bigger topic but it ties in to all the things above. You didn’t pick your genes, parent or your country (environment/culture), how much free will is left after that? The type of ”libertarian free will” most certainly do not exist.

So life, if not deterministic, is probabalistic. You will probably do better if your are born in the USA and probably not in the Congo. You will probably do better if you have high IQ rather than low. If your parents are idiots...

There is no aspect (I have read about) of our behavior that is not in part determined by our genes, choice of education, your psychological profile and IQ. The rest is the environment (physical and cultural).

I can only feel pity for those that _lost_ the lottery, to the extent that they lack the will and fortitude to change the probabilities handed to them. I can only conclude that those people need help, not lulz and ridicule.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 09:24:36
Ah ”im better then you”, doh!
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 09:37:32
The worries of people like seb, never made sense to me, because I knew my reasoning and there are always the Nazis to point to. Very complicated issue, without a doubt an evolutionary sound rational to exterminate people and take their stuff.

Rugian
Though we should be careful in saying what causes (you wrote ”results”) the other. There are still people who think eugenics is a valid option. Their understanding of genetics could likely be in line with the science. And there are liberals eho accept evolution up until the human neck. So other factors confound.
Dukhat
Member
Tue May 15 10:17:02
Nimatzo is wrong yet again. The conclusions he drew were a complete non-sequitur from the actual results of the study.

Dumb junkie is a dumb junkie.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 15 10:22:03
I have to tell you this dickface, how easy it is to not respond to your posts. Of all the posters here you are the easiest to ignore. That is quite the achievment on UP. Keep that in mind and tally how many times you get even one of these posts.
obaminated
Member
Wed May 16 05:32:43
http://giphy.com/gifs/use-noob-VnG2IuHsfdSmc
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