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obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 09:17:34
Married the limey. May their children be cursed for their unholy union.
mexicantardnado
Member
Sat May 19 09:35:08
duuur, dur dur, duuuur
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat May 19 09:48:56

I thought it was a pretty cool wedding. A lot of modern touches while keeping much of the traditions.

murder
Member
Sat May 19 11:00:09
Calling her a traitorous slut implies that she is/was American, which can't be since she's clearly not white.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 19 11:05:30
Reports are the FBI planted her, for political purposes, inside the royal family
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 11:13:33
Seriously? Is there nowhere to escape this innane drivel?
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 11:13:33
Seriously? Is there nowhere to escape this innane drivel?
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 11:14:10
I wonder if we could sell the monarchy to Warner Brothers or Disney?
Paramount
Member
Sat May 19 11:14:14
It sounds like obaminated is jealous that it was she who married prince Harry.
Paramount
Member
Sat May 19 11:30:11
Carole Middleton (born Carole Elizabeth Goldsmith) mother of Kate Middleton who is married to Prince William.

Who do you think planted Kate Gold... err Middleton into the royal family? :o)
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 11:32:40
I actually am jealous. She is very pretty. But a traitorous slut. #butimracist
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 11:47:01
Paramount, I think, was suggesting you were jealous of her for marrying the ruggedly handsome ginger known with a penchant for Nazi parephanalia.
Paramount
Member
Sat May 19 11:49:58
What does ”penchant for Nazi parephanalia” mean?
murder
Member
Sat May 19 11:53:17
"I wonder if we could sell the monarchy to Warner Brothers or Disney?"

I'm sure that Disney would be interested. Of course they would probably want to buy London to go with it. It would make one hell of a theme park.



obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 11:53:34
he dressed up like a nazi years ago
Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 11:57:20
Prince Harry should have gotten the Diana treatment for attempting to dilute the royal bloodline with a negro. The fact that the queen allowed this to proceed proves that she is clearly senile at this point and is unfit to rule the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:03:02
Murder:

They'd need a few more years before they could afford London.

We could maybe sell them Birmingham instead like the guy that sold "London bridge" to some tank business man.

Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 12:08:35
Seb,

The problem with selling Birmingham is that you need someone who would want to buy Birmingham.
murder
Member
Sat May 19 12:14:30

You can't Disneyfy the Jack the Ripper tour in Birmingham. Well, you could, but it would lack authenticity.

Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 12:27:49
I have no idea what Obaminated is talking about and am in too good a mood to visit the far-right sites he gets his talking points from.
Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 12:31:00
Royalty has no purpose other than pomp and circumstance. The House of Windsor should count themselves lucky they weren't beheaded or deposed and got to keep their ill-gotten gains. They are the very definition of white privilege.

That Harry would marry a half-black girl means he's spreading back the wealth to some of the brown people. What a progressive chap he is.
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:32:42
Rugian:

I guess you don't know the story of the guy who brought the old London Bridge thinking he was buying tower bridge.

(Ok, turns out it's apocryphal, he did know he was buying London bridge)

Fun fact by the way, William Blake has a brummie accent.

That last couplet of "Tiger Tiger burning bright" suddenly makes sense now.

But "Jerusalem" will never sound the same.

"Ahn did thaws Fhueyt, in aynceiuhnt tuhymes?"

Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:33:04
*had a brummie accent.
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:34:04
Dukhat:

I think it really is the other way around: it's a great sign of social progress that a Ginger can now get married to a rather attractive celebrity.
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:34:46
also, the important role for the Monarchy is the power it denies a single politician to wield.
Paramount
Member
Sat May 19 12:35:26
Is Pippa single and available for marriage?
McKobb
Member
Sat May 19 12:40:49
Rather he will dilute the blood of a fine American girl with the incest laced lineage an impotent nobility. She gave up her work to be a doll. What a waste.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 19 12:42:13
she was a pretty low-level celebrity
McKobb
Member
Sat May 19 12:47:00
At least it was work. I don't blame the father for not giving away his daughter to a bunch of shiftless layabouts! :P
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:47:51
yes, but he's a *ginger* tumbleweed.

Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:49:02
McKobb:

To be fair, of the family, he's the one that actually held down a paid job for a bit.

I hear the rest just flop around living off state benefits.
McKobb
Member
Sat May 19 12:49:41
Racist! I have a friend that is a ginger.
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:55:48
McKobb:

Don't be silly. He's not your friend. He can't be. Gingers don't have souls.



Seb
Member
Sat May 19 12:56:08
http://twi...on-tweet%2F&tfw_site=Shareblue

Ha, BBC3 trolling Trump here.
Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 12:57:08
Seb,

What does that say about your countrymen that they actually care about this shit!
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 13:00:13
Very bad things.

But not so bad a thing as it says about yours given the coverage being devoted to it over the pond.

Did you guys forget that whole revolution thing happened?
McKobb
Member
Sat May 19 13:01:26
That they are well conditioned
McKobb
Member
Sat May 19 13:11:08
Chicks eat that shit up here. Weddings I mean, the grander the better. And what is grander than a state sponcored one that costs it people £32 million?
Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 13:14:14
Seb,

That's the cultural divide at work. The type of Americans that actually care about this folly are the same libtards who always whine about how "EUROPE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN US AT ANYTHING" anyway. True, patriotic Americans couldn't care less about this.
Seb
Member
Sat May 19 13:19:39
No true scotsman!
Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 13:20:54
lol, you know you're enjoying every minute of this.
Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 13:22:39
*this day
Aeros
Member
Sat May 19 13:27:16
She is a Negro, a colonists AND a divorcee. The house of Windsor truly has fallen if one of it's sons is marrying a peasant foreigner of dubious breeding and morality.
McKobb
Member
Sat May 19 13:27:20
The only reason Elizabeth Mary is the Queen is because her uncle married an American girl. We got some mean pussy across the pond!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 19 13:54:48
only male gingers are disgusting... like my cousins...
Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 15:54:38
Did you know that ginger girls have pale white assholes? It's quite nice as it makes them look very pure as they are pale in general and makes anal sex better. Blondes have dark brown chodes.

Thinking about it, it's probably the same for male gingers.

The more you knooooooow
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 15:56:56
This thread turned out quite well
hood
Member
Sat May 19 15:57:10
"Blondes have dark brown chodes."

This says a lot about dukhat.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chode

If your preferred ladies have chodes, you might want to check your sexual preference.
Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 15:58:43
It's not she's half black or a commoner. It's that she's a divorcee and has probably dated black guys. At 36 years old, that means all her holes have been really stretched out and you have only a few years left before you need to pop pills to get it up around her and then when you do it's like an earthworm passing through the english channel: no traction at all. And if you want to feel something, you have to go for anal and black asses are disgusting (not racist, it's just anatomy). It is dark black around brown skin.

Anyways, all the best to the newly wedded couple.
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 16:04:02
And im the racist.
Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 16:08:29
It's not racist to point out black women have dark assholes or that they fuck black guys with big donkey dicks. Dat's anatomy brah
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 16:10:33
Do you read what you write?
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 16:10:51
also, cuckhat is living up to his name
Rugian
Member
Sat May 19 16:10:59
As a registered member of the Nazi Party, let me just say...what the fuck Dukhat.
Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 16:13:52
Too easy
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 16:23:17
http://mem...e-been-trolling-the-whole-time
Dukhat
Member
Sat May 19 16:27:34
For something to be a meme it has to be common internet knowledge and not something you made up tard.
obaminated
Member
Sat May 19 16:31:40
Holy shit.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun May 20 14:59:52
This thread. Wow. Just wow.

This wedding pestered my morning news. It reminded of how fucking stupid people are. All the idiot who came from the world over to watch it (ordinaries, not dignitaries). What the fuck are we doing with Kings and Queens still around? A sense of nostalgia for back when one family owned the country? At least back in the days, there was a chance these people could be beheaded, assassinated or deposed in some fashion. Not anymore, an insane amount of privilige and money inherited, risk free, for ever. I don’t get mad at rich people leaving their kids fortunes, because atleast someone within the last generation did SOMETHING to earn it. Elect a fucking president and PM.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 15:04:29
For all this time I thought the girl is Canadian. Turns out she just lived in Toronto for a few years
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun May 20 15:19:12
Well at least she has that going for her, she isn’t Canadian.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 15:34:06
God, I'm so insulted, it is unbelievable.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 15:34:23
I meant not insulted
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun May 20 16:19:48
As you may know, the world had still not forgiven you for Bryan Adams or Celine Dion and you guys went and elected Justin Trudeau as PM. But since you made the correction within the gentleman's agreed upon 20 seconds, I will allow it.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 16:47:01
I can’t believe how much I care about what the world has supposedly not forgiven me for.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 16:47:20
I mean how much I don’t care
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 16:50:20
I am ok with Bryan Adams and Celine. Not completely ok with Trudeau these days, but I am pretty sure for the different reasons than the retards of the order of the new victimhood order
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun May 20 17:18:00
Why don't you like JT these days? I thought he was yo boi.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun May 20 17:31:08
You thought wrong. I voted for the Liberal party, specifically for the person named Leona Alleslev, in 2015 federal elections. That party elected JT as their leader, they can replace the leader at some or at any point. Good vote on my part, looking back, from my POV. Idolizing political leaders, making them my boi, this might be your thing or not, but not mine, most def. All of them are replaceable

As for my not being ok with the federal Libs, I am first and foremost not ok with their broken electoral promise of going to the proportional representation electoral system, replacing FPTP. And there are other areas that I am not exactly satisfied with their performance, where I thought Libs in general and JT in particular could have done a better job. If you are interested, which I am doubtful, I can describe the issues in more depth.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun May 20 18:52:48

Nim, don't let him fool you.

He has his political idols.


Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel, you know, all of the big names.

swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Sun May 20 21:24:00
" He has his political idols.


Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel, you know, all of the big names. "

I did not know that.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 01:03:09
I have not voted for the last 3 elections. So I am as far away from idolizing politicians as you can get. If I vote this year, which there is a good chance, it will be to vote out the incumbents.

I would not ask if I was not interested. You and I had a discussion a few years over immigration and how retarded, shallow and reminicent of the vapid leftwing Swedish politicians I thought he was. I am aware of your change of heart since a while back, but did not get aroung to asking why.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 04:13:54
I would vote exactly like I did in 2015, if given a chance again. Also, no respect for ppl who do not vote on purpose. I mean, you do what you want, but your complaints about the politics of your country or state or municipality should be dismissed.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 04:44:15
I disagree, since I had no hand in any of this. I can complain all I want. It is you the stupid "voters" who may not complain. Specially if your "guy" won, which he did. I value my absentee vote very highly atm, provided these shitty options. I did more than most of you, I was very much engaged in municipal affairs and a card carrying Liberal. So my decision is based on more experience, than most.

So care to explain your change of heart on your "not my boi"? Which given how you spoke about him being a "manly man" I thought I would continue in that tone. I understand you do not like umm for realz feelz have a man crush on him.

http://www...&thread=76791&showdeleted=true
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 04:48:08
I am always interested in hearing people explaining a change of heart about anything. It is honest for one and rare these days that people change their mind, no matter how trivial and be open about it.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 04:52:56
Like I was open and honest about my change of heart on immigration policy, which lead to that discussion between us. The circle can thus be complete!
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 04:54:38
Nimatzo
iChihuaha Fri Apr 22 09:03:40
Ok, sounds a little homoerotic, and while I do not mind two men fondling each others balls and fingering each others ass holes, I worry that your love for Trudeau blinds you to his failings as a leader and his policies.

CrownRoyal
Member Fri Apr 22 09:05:57
I adore Trudeau's policies, the nation has never seen such sterling leadership. In fact, the whole world should pay attention and at least attempt to emulate

Lets take it from here.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 04:55:27
“Mon May 21 04:44:15
I disagree, since I had no hand in any of this. “

Sure, you did. There are no bad politicians, as they say. There are voters who stayed home. Or something along these lines, there are several nice quotes on the subject, maybe I will find some later. Might be a gap in my posts since I have an early flight home from wifi-less cancun airport

“I can complain all I want.”

Right, I didn’t say you can’t. I said your complaints should be dismissed


“So care to explain your change of heart on your "not my boi"?”

I thought I did explain the reason for me not being ok, the electoral refor that he and his party promised and then backed out from. My other complaints have to do with style, they are not as important.

“Which given how you spoke about him being a "manly man" I thought I would continue in that tone. I understand you do not like umm for realz feelz have a man crush on him. ”

I have no idea wtf you are talking about, unless this is an attempt at being funny.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 04:56:39
“By all means stay home if you want, but don't bullshit yourself that you're not voting. In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard's vote.”

DFWallace
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 05:18:52
We will just disagree then. I don't know who DFWallace is, but he sounds like an idiot compared to my inspiration on voting George Carlin... I just wikied him and lo an behold "Post modernism". That is how in tune I am with post modern idiocy. :) I can sense it from 1 quote. I impress myself, I have to say.

"I have no idea wtf you are talking about, unless this is an attempt at being funny."

I am pretty sure that was you being funny saying he was such a "manly man" for boxing, I just decided to join the funny. It got a little sad at the end though, you were so mean and hateful and all I wanted was to understand you! :,(
ANYWAY...
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 05:23:13
"If you are interested, which I am doubtful, I can describe the issues in more depth."

So now that you have my application for a description in depth. Please go on. I am really not being an asshole, but now I feel like we are stuck in a circle of satire. Can we break free?

What made you change your opinion about the Canadian PM, despite saying you would have voted the same as you did in 2015?
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 05:26:38
Oh, I was indeed being funny, when we were flooded with JT topless pics prior to the elections, i indeed thought it was funny. Both as how JT campaign thought it would be a good move and how it pissed off the haters.

As for not voting and then loudly complaining, sure , we will disagree. Sit on your ass and whine. I will dismiss your whining, because why would anyone take seriously your complaints? But I do encourage you to vote.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 05:28:12
And to reiterate - my 2015 vote wouldn’t change, knowing what I know today.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 05:37:23
“So now that you have my application for a description in depth“

I missed that post, since I was typing the response to the previous one. The description in depth involves the style that I mentioned before. For one example I did not approve how JT handled the kinder Morgan pipeline issue, I thought his particular “nice” style was counter productive on that issue. I doubted that you are interested in Canada pipelines, but hey, maybe you are
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 05:40:40
“What made you change your opinion about the Canadian PM, despite saying you would have voted the same as you did in 2015?”

It is still unclear to you for some reason, maybe I am not using the right words. I said - “Not completely ok with Trudeau these days, but I am pretty sure for the different reasons than the retards of the order of the new victimhood order”

And then I explicitly said why I am not completely ok, the broken promise of electoral reform. Is it clearer now?
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 06:06:45
"Sit on your ass and whine. I will dismiss your whining"

What does mean, you dismissing my whining? That you and I will engage fewer times than once every 3-4 years? I think this is worth obsessing over since you have repeated it so many times. Plenty of posters dismiss me and vice versa, for many reasons. Why would I care about this one? I mean you are caring right now. We are talking and we have in the past (on occasion) what other purpose do I need? That you care about my whining? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. And besides I am not sure I care about your whining, but in the whining something interesting may happen. So I will not dismiss it on principle.

"And then I explicitly said why I am not completely ok, the broken promise of electoral reform. Is it clearer now?"

Ah, see, when you said I can explain "in depth". I thought that was more than a sentence. Which you could have said, instead of the sentence "I can explain in depth". But fair enough.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 06:08:14
George Carlin - Why I Don't Vote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxsQ7jJJcEA
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 06:15:16
“What does mean, you dismissing my whining?”

Meaning that I will treat any of your complaints about your country/locality with significantly less respect, to the point of dismissing them outright. You are free not to care, of course. And we can talk about other stuff too, besides Sweden, where your sitting on your ass, whining but not voting is irrelevant.

“Ah, see, when you said I can explain "in depth".”

And I did. I said I have one serious disagreement, and style disagreements, which I called not as important. But when you asked for the depth, I gave you the pipeline JT example.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 06:19:41
George Carlin, god bless him, was being nihilistic politically here. I do not subscribe to his “voters are ignorant, hence they elect ignorant politicians” theory. Probably because I do not consider myself ignorant. And also because not voting is for a fact less likely to give you a better outcome than voting
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 06:21:10
About the quote I posted, I also do not know who the guy is, although I definitely knew the name DWFoster. I just totally agreed with the sentiment, I don’t think it matters who said it.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 06:21:57
"Both as how JT campaign thought it would be a good move and how it pissed off the haters."

I think this was particularly interesting, as that is how a lot of people describe their "love" for Trump. I mean I have to admit, I "love" Trump because he pisses of the "haters" as well. I could never vote for him, because well you already know. But the sense of in your face vengeance, SUCK IT LOSERS LOL! I get that and that we will never transcend the baser nature of our condition.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 06:29:29
I didn't love trudeau because some ppl hated his topless pics. It was funny but so was the absurdity of his campaign thinking it is a plus. Meaning, my vote for the liberals had zero to do with his picks possing off anyone.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon May 21 06:55:26
Ok, my taxi is here. I am off to the airport en route back home.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 06:57:32
"to the point of dismissing them outright."

Well OK. I dismiss your dismissal, outright. Even after explaining, it just does not register. I have no idea what to do with it, so I will just put on this pile of stuff labeled "misc." we can maybe get back to it some day say 3-4 years from now?

"I do not consider myself ignorant."

Well that is sorta what makes ignorant people ignorant, the inability to see their ignorance. Otherwise it is called LEARNING. Not that I am saying you are ignorant, just an FYI.

"And also because not voting is for a fact less likely to give you a better outcome than voting"

I have no illusions about the value of my vote among the millions of others. There is certainly a great value and lesson to be had, when enough people stop voting though. Sweden is no where near as bad as a quasi democracy like Iran, but the same principle applies. If the options are horrible, the system increasingly corrupt and people in power unaccountable. Then fuck it, let it burn.

"I don’t think it matters who said it."

I agree, who said it doesn't matter. I just think people who play word games "don't kid yourself you are not voting" when describing the process of voting or not voting (mechanically) and think they have revealed a great insight, are not very bright. It is quite obvious that me not voting, is a vote of no confidence.

But non of this has any bearing on the content of anyone's whining though. I engage in civil society by other means that I find more fruitful. Like I said I have no delusions about the value of _a_ vote.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 21 07:01:30
"Meaning, my vote for the liberals had zero to do with his picks possing off anyone."

I didn't say your vote, I said your "love". Your "love" for him had everything to do with that. I can only go on what transpires on UP, since I do not know you in person.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue May 22 06:22:30
"Even after explaining, it just does not register. "

No problem, I will explain again. Why would i listen to your political complaints, if you are the one who caused the whatever situation you are currently whining about?(not just you, of course) It is like that tale about an old man who every day, throughout his long life, begged God to let him win a lottery grand prize. So one day, an exasperated God yelled at him, "Fine, but just buy that lottery ticket at least once!".

"we can maybe get back to it some day say 3-4 years from now? "

Good plan. If we are still here, let's bring it up again in 2021. Maybe you will tell me how you voted, and I will argue that all votes are a waste of time, in three years.

"Well that is sorta what makes ignorant people ignorant, the inability to see their ignorance. Otherwise it is called LEARNING. "

Who says I can't learn? Always open to learning. I do not agree with GCarlin that I should not be voting though, due to his theory, or his joke, that voting is a waste of time bc of ignorant voters. I do not consider myself ignorant on my federal, province and local politics.

"There is certainly a great value and lesson to be had, when enough people stop voting though. Sweden is no where near as bad as a quasi democracy like Iran, but the same principle applies. "


I think this is exactly wrong. Democracy, or whatever you want to call our system of govt is not something that once there, is always there. It requires constant attention and improvement, something that is done through voting. If you dont want to become quasi whatever like Iran, then vote. No guarantee that you will succeed, no guarantee that your vote will change a thing. But there is no "lesson to be had" when voters dont vote. Things just remain the same, or worsen, since there is no accountability for the politicians in charge.


"If the options are horrible, the system increasingly corrupt and people in power unaccountable. Then fuck it, let it burn. "

See, this "let it burn" comment makes me wonder if we should even be having this discussion at all. I am presenting arguments because I presume that you value our system, where people vote. But if you are willing to let it burn, then why are we wasting time here? Maybe you prefer some other system, like a czar or somebody all powerful. Or maybe you want anarchy, who knows. The point is, I care because I cannot imagine any other system being better for me, letting it burn and hoping that something better, some yet undiscovered political system will arise on the ashes, is not an option for me. But you? If you are ok with the thought of letting it all burn, then why are you even trying to explain the reasons for you skipping some votes?


" agree, who said it doesn't matter. I just think people who play word games "don't kid yourself you are not voting" when describing the process of voting or not voting (mechanically) and think they have revealed a great insight, are not very bright. "

I dont know if that guy thought he revealed a great insight, and neither do you. This is just something you wrote. And "word games" too. Anything you say is word games then. Let me try too - I just think people who play word games "not voting is a vote of no confidence", and think they have revealed a great insight, are not very bright.

"But non of this has any bearing on the content of anyone's whining though. I engage in civil society by other means that I find more fruitful. "

Like what other means?

"I didn't say your vote, I said your "love". Your "love" for him had everything to do with that. "

Unclear what you mean. I find JT eminently replaceable, as with most politicians. His pictures pissing off some people added nothing to my sympathy or to my antipathy towards him personally, with all the amusement they caused. And I already mentioned that my vote was similarly not affected by all the topless muscle displays, and this is what counts, unlike this vague love you talk about.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue May 22 10:13:38
"if you are the one who caused the whatever"

I didn't I had no hand in it whatsoever. Problem solved. You arbitrary definition of "cause" does not count. It is retarded and can be dismissed on retardation. You are essentially asking me to go and vote blank, because no party deserves my vote, in this country voting blank and not voting is the same thing.

"I do not consider myself ignorant on my federal, province and local politics."

Just immigration policy, immigration flows to Canada, the why how and when. As we discussed in the thread I linked. You were clueless about Sweden and Canada in that regard.

"But there is no "lesson to be had" when voters dont vote."

When enough people vote "no confidence", there is a lesson to be had. Whether people take it is another matter. If you don't think any actor in the system is decent, it would be reckless to act any other way. You just do not like my "vote". After careful consideration and some experience in politics I decided to not vote. I take that over idiots who vote for their tribes without any sort of thinking.

"I am presenting arguments because I presume that you value our system, where people vote."

No I do not value a system "where people vote", certainly voting would be part of any system I would value. You are wearing your pants, ass backwards.

"because I cannot imagine any other system being better for me"

You lack of imagination, is not really my issue and should not be the basis for voting. I am sure people couldn't imagine a world a system without slavery, or lol VOTING, women voting etc. etc. here we are. We are not constrained to your imagination, are we?

"then why are you even trying to explain the reasons for you skipping some votes?"

I want to convince as many people I can to stop voting. To do that I have to explain the reasons. What a weird question.

"Like what other means?"

I was, until my son was born, fairly engage as a mentor for a dozen young immigrant boys (with troublesome backgrounds) over 10 years or so, will likely do that again when he is a bit more grown up. I am a mentor today for an Iranian girl (engineer), she got her first job a couple months ago. I support with my money voices I think are healthy for the discourse. I engage in that discourse online and IRL. I am VERY creative :)

"Unclear what you mean."

"CrownRoyal
Member Fri Apr 22 09:05:57
I adore Trudeau's policies, the nation has never seen such sterling leadership. In fact, the whole world should pay attention and at least attempt to emulate"

You "love" (or adore, close enough hence the quote) that the people you "hate", dislike the man. Like I said I can only go by what transpires here. This love and hate thing is a game we play here. I hope that is more clear.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue May 22 13:35:38
"I didn't I had no hand in it whatsoever"

sure you did. By not voting on purpose, you helped to ensure that the status quo remains and with that all the issues that upset you. Also, don't you have a down ballot issues or politicians out there? Just because you can't find a federal party to support, can't you vote for your local reps/maesures? Or is this local govt voting equally useless in your book?


"Just immigration policy, immigration flows to Canada, the why how and when. As we discussed in the thread I linked. You were clueless about Sweden and Canada in that regard. "

Guilty as charged on anything swedish, because,
of course I am. On Canada, I am a-ok.

"You lack of imagination, is not really my issue and should not be the basis for voting. . I am sure people couldn't imagine a world a system without slavery, or lol VOTING, women voting etc. etc. here we are. We are not constrained to your imagination, are we? "

Fantastic, this is a chance for you to paint a picture on what would replace the system we have now, once it all burns

"I want to convince as many people I can to stop voting. To do that I have to explain the reasons."

Right. To add to the previous point - since you will ideally let the whole systemn burn, how are the changes that you want going to be ushered in? Obviously, nno more voting, I take it no legislature of any kind. So, once you convince enough people to not vote, what is the end game? Usually by changes ppl mean parties/politicians that will implement their preferred policies, but you obviously is not hoping for that outcome, since you consider voting worthless. Once new, better parties get in, are you actually going to start voting? Of course not.



"I was, until my son was born, fairly engage as a mentor for a dozen young immigrant boys (with troublesome backgrounds) over 10 years or so..."

This is not bad, but how is that "more ffruitful" than voting? The first time I voted, my vote was based on one party pledge to not raise university tution. Surely that policy has more impact than your mentoring of 10 kids. Why don't you agitate for a party that will have the mentoring in their platform?


"You "love" (or adore, close enough hence the quote)..."

Yes, "I adore Trudeau's policies, the nation has never seen such sterling leadership." sounds totally sincere. Just to be sure, I checked that old thread and this is what I wrote near the end - " I am going to judge JT, Harper or any other politician, on how they govern. "

obaminated
Member
Tue May 22 15:55:11
You guys ruined an otherwise fun thread. It literally had cuckhat declaring that black women fuck black men cause they have donkey dicks and then immediately declare that wasnt a racist comment.

And then you guys get into an argument over canadian politics? Wtf.
obaminated
Member
Tue May 22 15:55:31
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