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Williamthebastard
Member Thu May 31 11:55:05
The free world is under attack by the neofascist Gop. European posters should boycott US products now. Relevant product lists are currently flooding social media. It is time.

Rugian
Member Thu May 31 11:58:08
Don't make us invade you a third time.

Williamthebastard
Member Thu May 31 12:01:07
Come on over sonny, i will shoot you inbthe head. People have to realize you are not an innocent little internet troll twat, you are the enemy,

Rugian
Member Thu May 31 12:27:24
I'm your best friend in the entire world, buddy. My country is the one and only reason why your pathetic excuse of a continent has anything remotely approaching freedom and prosperity, and we give you that despite your never-ending insolence and ingratitude. If we tell you to repay us for such generosity with a 25% tariff, your only response should be "thank you sir for not making it 50%." Otherwise, shut the fuck up and take it like the bottom sissy you are.

And by the way, what gun are you going to shoot me with in your 2A-free country, shithead? What a retarded threat for a Eurofag to make against an American.

Paramount
Member Thu May 31 12:35:42
Yeah, it is war now.

The EU, China and Russia will join forces now and crush America in a Epic trade war. Bwahaha

Sam Adams
Member Thu May 31 12:37:58
Lol rugian just fucking pwnt wtb.

Sam Adams
Member Thu May 31 12:41:55
The eu whines about a few tariffs while those buttfuckers give airbus another illegal loan at the same time. Gtfo and go be retards elsewhere.

murder
Member Fri Jun 01 14:08:33
"Don't make us invade you a third time."

We don't have the resources to do that anymore. The US couldn't fight a remotely modern force far from our shores. We would get crushed.

Forwyn
Member Fri Jun 01 14:11:38
"Lol rugian just fucking pwnt wtb."

+1

rofl

Sam Adams
Member Fri Jun 01 14:36:32
Murder stop being french

Hot Rod
Revved Up Fri Jun 01 20:36:18

murder, our military is correcting Oslimeas errors faster than you can realize.

murder
Member Fri Jun 01 22:25:16
No we're not, and it doesn't matter. You could multiply our armed forces by 5, and we still couldn't come close to pulling it off.

McKobb
Member Sat Jun 02 01:31:02
You would be surprised how much our soldiers, airmen, and seamen can pull off!

Paramount
Member Sat Jun 02 02:51:01
They still haven’t defeated the Talibans. And Russia and Iran had to get involved to defeat IS in Syria.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Jun 02 06:03:38

"They still haven’t defeated the Talibans. And Russia and Iran had to get involved to defeat IS in Syria."

You can thank oslimea for that.

Delude
Member Sat Jun 02 09:47:29
No, you can thank GWB for that. And Obama killed Bin Laden. But of course that is credit you refuse to give.

It's understandable, specifically how you "real Americans" are versus the rest of us with a brain.

Forwyn
Member Sat Jun 02 11:12:49
To his credit, GWB didn't arm IS.

murder
Member Sat Jun 02 20:42:36

"You would be surprised how much our soldiers, airmen, and seamen can pull off!"

No I wouldn't. The forces we put in Iraq we'd never be able to get into Europe. It would be a slaughter. They would get overwhelmed before they could even establish a beachhead.

That's if we were even capable of moving that many men without the use of our European bases.

Forwyn
Member Sat Jun 02 21:35:19
Following UN reports, just put them in dinghies and call them refugees of a deteriorating democracy and increasing wealth disparity. They'll be in relevant capitals by nightfall.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sun Jun 03 03:00:18

murder - No I wouldn't. The forces we put in Iraq we'd never be able to get into Europe.

We could back up our forces with three or four Carrier Groups we could take out Great Britain.

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 12:47:34

No we couldn't. The moment those carrier groups would be close enough to launch, they'd be close enough to get hit.

There's a world of difference in fighting a modern/semi-modern force, and fighting some developing nation with 2nd/3rd tier equipment that's dumb enough to sit there picking their nose while you amass forces on their border.

We can whip any developing nation on earth. We can whip anyone in neutral/friendly territory. We can whip anyone more than a couple of hundred miles beyond their own friendly borders.

Trying to force your way into hostile territory against a large wealthy population with modern forces is a whole other ball of wax, and simply couldn't be done.

For reference, last time we forced our way onto that continent, we needed a vast staging area (the UK), more forces and equipment than we have now, allies, a mostly friendly point of entry, and we were fighting a much smaller force that was stretched thin.

And if you somehow did manage to get close enough ... god bless any idiot who would volunteer to land on a beach against a force swimming with anti-tank missiles.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Jun 04 13:50:53

*****AIRPOWER & SEAPOWER*****

"Expeditionary Strike Group

This will give you a rough idea of a carrier groups TO&E. Times that by four.

Class and type: America-class amphibious assault ship[2]
Displacement: 44,971 long tons (45,693 t)[8] full load
Length: 844 ft (257 m)
Beam: 106 ft (32 m)
Draft: 26 ft (7.9 m)
Propulsion: Two marine gas turbines, two shafts, 70,000 bhp (52,000 kW), two 5,000 hp (3,700 kW) auxiliary propulsion motors.
Speed: over 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph)[9]
Complement:

65 officers, 994 enlisted
1,687 Marines (plus 184 surge)

Sensors and
processing systems:

AN/SPQ-9B surface search & fire control radar
AN/SPS-48E(V)10 3-D airsearch radar
AN/SPS-49(V)1 2-D airsearch radar
AN/SPM-43C air traffic control radar
Ship Self-Defense System (SSDS) Mod 4
Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC)[10][11]

Electronic warfare
& decoys:

AN/SLQ-32B(V)2 Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program Block 1
2 × Mk53 NULKA decoy launchers[12]

Armament:

2× Rolling Airframe Missile launchers
2× Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile launchers
2× 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts
2x 25mm M242 Bushmaster Machine Gun System
7× twin .50 BMG machine guns

Aircraft carried:

AV-8B Harrier II
MV-22B Osprey
F-35B Lightning II
CH-53K Super Stallion
UH-1Y Venom
AH-1Z Viper
MH-60S Knighthawk

Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Jun 04 14:08:44

A closer look: this does not seem to include the screening ships which are primarily Cruisers and destroyers.

Plus there would be a great many more grunts.

I said in an earlier post we could send four Carrier groups.

That's a lot.

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 14:18:55

That's nice, but the Europeans would be operating from a much larger carrier that can't be sunk (land actually), and their military hardware is nearly on par with ours almost across the board.

In the most real way, they have homefield advantage.

Just resupplying our forces would be a nightmare.

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 14:22:27

btw I have no idea what you're planning on doing with 10,000 US Marines, but I can guarantee that you're not trying to land them unless you're trying to get them killed or captured.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Jun 04 17:47:00

There would be much more than 10,000.

Think in terms of 10 Divisions plus a couple of divisions of armor.

We could raise that many if necessary.

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 18:55:21
How are you going to move them? How are you going to land them?

And no, you can't raise that many, but still ...

Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Jun 04 19:02:40

That's less than 200,000. We have that many now.

Actually, that just to hit the beaches. We would need a 2nd, 3rd and possibly a fourth wave.

We could start the draft again if necessary.

You are registered, aren't you?

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 19:05:51

They'd never get to the beach. Well, eventually they'd wash up on shore somewhere, but they wouldn't be in any condition to fight anyone.

"You are registered, aren't you?"

Yeah, but I would go anywhere. I'm no one's toy soldier.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Jun 04 19:11:52

I know you would go anywhere. If not you would end up in Leavenworth.

Just think I could come up for a visit now and then.

jergul
large member Mon Jun 04 19:31:48
Murder
You could use HR's old Garand. Because that is what the Army would end up issuing you.

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 20:06:57

"I know you would go anywhere. If not you would end up in Leavenworth."

What's wrong with Leavenworth? I'm sure it's a lovely small town.

"Just think I could come up for a visit now and then."

Bring me a cake with a file in it. :o)

murder
Member Mon Jun 04 20:08:27

"You could use HR's old Garand. Because that is what the Army would end up issuing you."

The invitations would be issued with "bring your own AR-15s".

jergul
large member Mon Jun 04 20:09:07
Does the Army have ammo for those in tin cans?

jergul
large member Mon Jun 04 20:10:11
5.56 Nato standard? Really? I am suprised.

Dukhat
Member Mon Jun 04 21:14:00
This thread became super-retarded once Rugian went on his ignorant rant and then the cuckservatives patted him on the back.

Incel positive feedback.

Pathetic.

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Williamthebastard Member	Thu May 31 11:55:05 The free world is under attack by the neofascist Gop. European posters should boycott US products now. Relevant product lists are currently flooding social media. It is time.
Rugian Member	Thu May 31 11:58:08 Don't make us invade you a third time.
Williamthebastard Member	Thu May 31 12:01:07 Come on over sonny, i will shoot you inbthe head. People have to realize you are not an innocent little internet troll twat, you are the enemy,
Rugian Member	Thu May 31 12:27:24 I'm your best friend in the entire world, buddy. My country is the one and only reason why your pathetic excuse of a continent has anything remotely approaching freedom and prosperity, and we give you that despite your never-ending insolence and ingratitude. If we tell you to repay us for such generosity with a 25% tariff, your only response should be "thank you sir for not making it 50%." Otherwise, shut the fuck up and take it like the bottom sissy you are. And by the way, what gun are you going to shoot me with in your 2A-free country, shithead? What a retarded threat for a Eurofag to make against an American.
Paramount Member	Thu May 31 12:35:42 Yeah, it is war now. The EU, China and Russia will join forces now and crush America in a Epic trade war. Bwahaha
Sam Adams Member	Thu May 31 12:37:58 Lol rugian just fucking pwnt wtb.
Sam Adams Member	Thu May 31 12:41:55 The eu whines about a few tariffs while those buttfuckers give airbus another illegal loan at the same time. Gtfo and go be retards elsewhere.
murder Member	Fri Jun 01 14:08:33 "Don't make us invade you a third time." We don't have the resources to do that anymore. The US couldn't fight a remotely modern force far from our shores. We would get crushed.
Forwyn Member	Fri Jun 01 14:11:38 "Lol rugian just fucking pwnt wtb." +1 rofl
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 01 14:36:32 Murder stop being french
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jun 01 20:36:18 murder, our military is correcting Oslimeas errors faster than you can realize.
murder Member	Fri Jun 01 22:25:16 No we're not, and it doesn't matter. You could multiply our armed forces by 5, and we still couldn't come close to pulling it off.
McKobb Member	Sat Jun 02 01:31:02 You would be surprised how much our soldiers, airmen, and seamen can pull off!
Paramount Member	Sat Jun 02 02:51:01 They still haven’t defeated the Talibans. And Russia and Iran had to get involved to defeat IS in Syria.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jun 02 06:03:38 "They still haven’t defeated the Talibans. And Russia and Iran had to get involved to defeat IS in Syria." You can thank oslimea for that.
Delude Member	Sat Jun 02 09:47:29 No, you can thank GWB for that. And Obama killed Bin Laden. But of course that is credit you refuse to give. It's understandable, specifically how you "real Americans" are versus the rest of us with a brain.
Forwyn Member	Sat Jun 02 11:12:49 To his credit, GWB didn't arm IS.
murder Member	Sat Jun 02 20:42:36 "You would be surprised how much our soldiers, airmen, and seamen can pull off!" No I wouldn't. The forces we put in Iraq we'd never be able to get into Europe. It would be a slaughter. They would get overwhelmed before they could even establish a beachhead. That's if we were even capable of moving that many men without the use of our European bases.
Forwyn Member	Sat Jun 02 21:35:19 Following UN reports, just put them in dinghies and call them refugees of a deteriorating democracy and increasing wealth disparity. They'll be in relevant capitals by nightfall.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Jun 03 03:00:18 murder - No I wouldn't. The forces we put in Iraq we'd never be able to get into Europe. We could back up our forces with three or four Carrier Groups we could take out Great Britain.
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 12:47:34 No we couldn't. The moment those carrier groups would be close enough to launch, they'd be close enough to get hit. There's a world of difference in fighting a modern/semi-modern force, and fighting some developing nation with 2nd/3rd tier equipment that's dumb enough to sit there picking their nose while you amass forces on their border. We can whip any developing nation on earth. We can whip anyone in neutral/friendly territory. We can whip anyone more than a couple of hundred miles beyond their own friendly borders. Trying to force your way into hostile territory against a large wealthy population with modern forces is a whole other ball of wax, and simply couldn't be done. For reference, last time we forced our way onto that continent, we needed a vast staging area (the UK), more forces and equipment than we have now, allies, a mostly friendly point of entry, and we were fighting a much smaller force that was stretched thin. And if you somehow did manage to get close enough ... god bless any idiot who would volunteer to land on a beach against a force swimming with anti-tank missiles.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jun 04 13:50:53 ***AIRPOWER & SEAPOWER*** "Expeditionary Strike Group This will give you a rough idea of a carrier groups TO&E. Times that by four. Class and type: America-class amphibious assault ship[2] Displacement: 44,971 long tons (45,693 t)[8] full load Length: 844 ft (257 m) Beam: 106 ft (32 m) Draft: 26 ft (7.9 m) Propulsion: Two marine gas turbines, two shafts, 70,000 bhp (52,000 kW), two 5,000 hp (3,700 kW) auxiliary propulsion motors. Speed: over 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph)[9] Complement: 65 officers, 994 enlisted 1,687 Marines (plus 184 surge) Sensors and processing systems: AN/SPQ-9B surface search & fire control radar AN/SPS-48E(V)10 3-D airsearch radar AN/SPS-49(V)1 2-D airsearch radar AN/SPM-43C air traffic control radar Ship Self-Defense System (SSDS) Mod 4 Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC)[10][11] Electronic warfare & decoys: AN/SLQ-32B(V)2 Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program Block 1 2 × Mk53 NULKA decoy launchers[12] Armament: 2× Rolling Airframe Missile launchers 2× Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile launchers 2× 20 mm Phalanx CIWS mounts 2x 25mm M242 Bushmaster Machine Gun System 7× twin .50 BMG machine guns Aircraft carried: AV-8B Harrier II MV-22B Osprey F-35B Lightning II CH-53K Super Stallion UH-1Y Venom AH-1Z Viper MH-60S Knighthawk
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jun 04 14:08:44 A closer look: this does not seem to include the screening ships which are primarily Cruisers and destroyers. Plus there would be a great many more grunts. I said in an earlier post we could send four Carrier groups. That's a lot.
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 14:18:55 That's nice, but the Europeans would be operating from a much larger carrier that can't be sunk (land actually), and their military hardware is nearly on par with ours almost across the board. In the most real way, they have homefield advantage. Just resupplying our forces would be a nightmare.
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 14:22:27 btw I have no idea what you're planning on doing with 10,000 US Marines, but I can guarantee that you're not trying to land them unless you're trying to get them killed or captured.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jun 04 17:47:00 There would be much more than 10,000. Think in terms of 10 Divisions plus a couple of divisions of armor. We could raise that many if necessary.
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 18:55:21 How are you going to move them? How are you going to land them? And no, you can't raise that many, but still ...
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jun 04 19:02:40 That's less than 200,000. We have that many now. Actually, that just to hit the beaches. We would need a 2nd, 3rd and possibly a fourth wave. We could start the draft again if necessary. You are registered, aren't you?
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 19:05:51 They'd never get to the beach. Well, eventually they'd wash up on shore somewhere, but they wouldn't be in any condition to fight anyone. "You are registered, aren't you?" Yeah, but I would go anywhere. I'm no one's toy soldier.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jun 04 19:11:52 I know you would go anywhere. If not you would end up in Leavenworth. Just think I could come up for a visit now and then.
jergul large member	Mon Jun 04 19:31:48 Murder You could use HR's old Garand. Because that is what the Army would end up issuing you.
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 20:06:57 "I know you would go anywhere. If not you would end up in Leavenworth." What's wrong with Leavenworth? I'm sure it's a lovely small town. "Just think I could come up for a visit now and then." Bring me a cake with a file in it. :o)
murder Member	Mon Jun 04 20:08:27 "You could use HR's old Garand. Because that is what the Army would end up issuing you." The invitations would be issued with "bring your own AR-15s".
jergul large member	Mon Jun 04 20:09:07 Does the Army have ammo for those in tin cans?
jergul large member	Mon Jun 04 20:10:11 5.56 Nato standard? Really? I am suprised.
Dukhat Member	Mon Jun 04 21:14:00 This thread became super-retarded once Rugian went on his ignorant rant and then the cuckservatives patted him on the back. Incel positive feedback. Pathetic.
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