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Paramount
Member Fri Jun 01 10:38:35
President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims in 497 days

In the 497 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president.

That’s an average of more than 6.5 claims a day.

When we first started this project for the president’s first 100 days, he averaged 4.9 claims a day. But the average number of claims per day keeps climbing as the president nears the 500-day mark of his presidency.

In the month of May, the president made about eight claims a day — including an astonishing 35 claims in his rally in Nashville on May 29.

Among the claims at the rally: He more than tripled the projected savings from repealing Obamacare, and said the individual mandate was unconstitutional even though the Supreme Court, in an opinion written by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., said it passed constitutional muster. He once again falsely said he passed the biggest tax cut in U.S. history, when it’s only in eighth place. He inflated the trade deficit with Mexico. And he offered a long list of false statements about immigration, ranging from mischaracterizing the visa lottery to whether his long-promised wall is being built. (It’s not.) He also twisted the words of Democrats, casting words of sympathy for undocumented immigrants as support for MS-13 gang members.

But perhaps the president’s most astonishing claim in May came on the last day of the month, in the form of a tweet.

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true!
2:11 PM - May 31, 2018

Initially, the White House had said FBI director James B. Comey was fired May 9, 2017, because of his handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation, on the recommendation of Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein.

But here’s what Trump himself said to NBC’s Lester Holt just two days after the firing: “I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.”

Moreover, the New York Times reported that Trump, in a meeting with Russian officials the day after the firing, said: “I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Those quotes appeared in a White House document summarizing the meeting.

Our interactive graphic, created with the help of Leslie Shapiro and Kaeti Hinck of The Washington Post’s graphics department, displays a running list of every false or misleading statement made by Trump. We also catalogued the president’s many flip-flops, since those earn Upside-Down Pinocchios if a politician shifts position on an issue without acknowledging that he or she did so.

Trump has a proclivity to repeat, over and over, many of his false or misleading statements. We’ve counted at least 122 claims that the president has repeated at least three times, some with breathtaking frequency.

Almost one third of Trump’s claims — 931 — relate to economic issues, trade deals or jobs. He frequently takes credit for jobs created before he became president or company decisions with which he had no role. He cites his “incredible success” in terms of job growth, even though annual job growth under his presidency has been slower than the last five years of Barack Obama’s term. He also loves to cite unemployment figures, even though he repeatedly said during his campaign that the unemployment rate was phony and could not be trusted.

Not surprisingly, immigration is another source of Trump’s misleading claims, now totaling 379. Nineteen times just in the past three months, for instance, the president has falsely claimed his long-promised border wall with Mexico is being built, even though Congress has denied funding for it.

Misleading claims about taxes — now at 299 — are also a common feature of Trump’s speeches. Seventy-five times, he has made the false assertion that he passed the biggest tax cut in U.S. history.

But moving up the list quickly are claims about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and whether people in the Trump campaign were in any way connected to it. The president has made 265 statements about the Russia probe, using hyperbolic claims of “worse than Watergate,” “McCarthyism” and, of course, “witch hunt.” He often asserts that the Democrats colluded with the Russians, even though the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign were victims of Russian activities, as emails were hacked and then released via WikiLeaks.

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obaminated
Member Fri Jun 01 11:43:28
you know how often americans think about the swedish government?

Mexicantardnado
Member Fri Jun 01 12:46:26
Duuuuuuur stop talking duuuuuur about my duuuur hero trump duuuuuuuuuuuuur

Paramount
Member Fri Jun 01 12:49:50
”you know how often americans think about the swedish government?”

One time per day.

kargen
Member Fri Jun 01 17:03:50
list them.

delude
Member Fri Jun 01 17:45:05
lol list them?

stfu kargen...

http://www...ump/statements/byruling/false/

kargen
Member Fri Jun 01 20:16:10
I was simply interested in reading them.

Also is six falsehoods a day under or over the average for your typical high level politician?

and a few of the lies are really just differences of opinions. Not that he doesn't often play it pretty loose with the facts.

Paramount
Member Sat Jun 02 02:52:57
”a few of the lies are really just differences of opinions”

You mean ”alternative facts”?

kargen
Member Sun Jun 03 18:35:44
Nope I meant differences of opinions.

If I meant alternative facts I would have said alternative facts.

I know you struggle with the difference twixt opinion and fact but some of us can make that distinction.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sun Jun 03 18:41:16
"Also is six falsehoods a day under or over the average for your typical high level politician?"

name any politician besides Trump doing anywhere near that much

obaminated
Member Mon Jun 04 01:15:09
a very small percentage of americans give a crap about the swedish government beyond us making fun of how weak their people are. you are a weak people. it amuses us. we really dont give a shit about you.

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Paramount Member	Fri Jun 01 10:38:35 President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims in 497 days In the 497 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president. That’s an average of more than 6.5 claims a day. When we first started this project for the president’s first 100 days, he averaged 4.9 claims a day. But the average number of claims per day keeps climbing as the president nears the 500-day mark of his presidency. In the month of May, the president made about eight claims a day — including an astonishing 35 claims in his rally in Nashville on May 29. Among the claims at the rally: He more than tripled the projected savings from repealing Obamacare, and said the individual mandate was unconstitutional even though the Supreme Court, in an opinion written by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., said it passed constitutional muster. He once again falsely said he passed the biggest tax cut in U.S. history, when it’s only in eighth place. He inflated the trade deficit with Mexico. And he offered a long list of false statements about immigration, ranging from mischaracterizing the visa lottery to whether his long-promised wall is being built. (It’s not.) He also twisted the words of Democrats, casting words of sympathy for undocumented immigrants as support for MS-13 gang members. But perhaps the president’s most astonishing claim in May came on the last day of the month, in the form of a tweet. Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true! 2:11 PM - May 31, 2018 Initially, the White House had said FBI director James B. Comey was fired May 9, 2017, because of his handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation, on the recommendation of Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein. But here’s what Trump himself said to NBC’s Lester Holt just two days after the firing: “I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.” Moreover, the New York Times reported that Trump, in a meeting with Russian officials the day after the firing, said: “I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Those quotes appeared in a White House document summarizing the meeting. Our interactive graphic, created with the help of Leslie Shapiro and Kaeti Hinck of The Washington Post’s graphics department, displays a running list of every false or misleading statement made by Trump. We also catalogued the president’s many flip-flops, since those earn Upside-Down Pinocchios if a politician shifts position on an issue without acknowledging that he or she did so. Trump has a proclivity to repeat, over and over, many of his false or misleading statements. We’ve counted at least 122 claims that the president has repeated at least three times, some with breathtaking frequency. Almost one third of Trump’s claims — 931 — relate to economic issues, trade deals or jobs. He frequently takes credit for jobs created before he became president or company decisions with which he had no role. He cites his “incredible success” in terms of job growth, even though annual job growth under his presidency has been slower than the last five years of Barack Obama’s term. He also loves to cite unemployment figures, even though he repeatedly said during his campaign that the unemployment rate was phony and could not be trusted. Not surprisingly, immigration is another source of Trump’s misleading claims, now totaling 379. Nineteen times just in the past three months, for instance, the president has falsely claimed his long-promised border wall with Mexico is being built, even though Congress has denied funding for it. Misleading claims about taxes — now at 299 — are also a common feature of Trump’s speeches. Seventy-five times, he has made the false assertion that he passed the biggest tax cut in U.S. history. But moving up the list quickly are claims about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and whether people in the Trump campaign were in any way connected to it. The president has made 265 statements about the Russia probe, using hyperbolic claims of “worse than Watergate,” “McCarthyism” and, of course, “witch hunt.” He often asserts that the Democrats colluded with the Russians, even though the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign were victims of Russian activities, as emails were hacked and then released via WikiLeaks. http://www...rect=on&utm_term=.6565acae7325
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 01 11:43:28 you know how often americans think about the swedish government?
Mexicantardnado Member	Fri Jun 01 12:46:26 Duuuuuuur stop talking duuuuuur about my duuuur hero trump duuuuuuuuuuuuur
Paramount Member	Fri Jun 01 12:49:50 ”you know how often americans think about the swedish government?” One time per day.
kargen Member	Fri Jun 01 17:03:50 list them.
delude Member	Fri Jun 01 17:45:05 lol list them? stfu kargen... http://www...ump/statements/byruling/false/
kargen Member	Fri Jun 01 20:16:10 I was simply interested in reading them. Also is six falsehoods a day under or over the average for your typical high level politician? and a few of the lies are really just differences of opinions. Not that he doesn't often play it pretty loose with the facts.
Paramount Member	Sat Jun 02 02:52:57 ”a few of the lies are really just differences of opinions” You mean ”alternative facts”?
kargen Member	Sun Jun 03 18:35:44 Nope I meant differences of opinions. If I meant alternative facts I would have said alternative facts. I know you struggle with the difference twixt opinion and fact but some of us can make that distinction.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 03 18:41:16 "Also is six falsehoods a day under or over the average for your typical high level politician?" name any politician besides Trump doing anywhere near that much
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 04 01:15:09 a very small percentage of americans give a crap about the swedish government beyond us making fun of how weak their people are. you are a weak people. it amuses us. we really dont give a shit about you.
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