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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jun 07 11:46:25
"I think I'm very well prepared, I don't think I have to prepare very much. It's about attitude, it's about willingness to get things done."
~Trump

http://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/1004765526785024000

imagine if adults weren't going with him... or if all the people were like this idiot...
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jun 07 18:46:07

tumbleweed would go into the meeting and beg Kim, won't you please pet me for a little while?

What the hell, you want Trump to go to the meeting without any confidence?


Of all of the stupid irrational statements you have ever posted this on is the most asinine.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jun 07 19:03:32
yeah, being prepared is stupid
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jun 07 20:33:18
the 'good' news is the child also mocked the idea of preparation for the debates when he actually was doing preparation secretly

the bad news is he's that child... plus doesn't have the attention span to actually learn anything
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Jun 07 22:18:41

He already knows what he wants. He has known for years.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 17:46:05
predictions:

1) Trump's henchmen seize Kim & airstrike NK artillery
2) Kim's translator takes out Trump w/ a bamboo blowgun
3) Explosion takes out both of them & everyone is happy
4) Bolton flops across the table and flattens his counterpart and summit canceled
5) Total success thus proving Trump in league with Satan
6) Total failure to resolve anything & Trump declares greatest success in the history of diplomacy
7) Somewhere in the middle & Trump declares greatest success in the history of diplomacy
obaminated
Member
Sun Jun 10 19:19:04
Kim can surrender all his nukes and tw will find a way to complain about it. Its sad.
Cold Rod
Member
Sun Jun 10 19:58:57
Or it's real sad that you believe he is going to surrender his nukes.
jergul
large member
Sun Jun 10 20:00:20
Kim is very clear on having a willingness to denuclearize for as long as the US does the same.
obaminated
Member
Sun Jun 10 21:03:27
When I have stated that I believe Kim will denuclearize?
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jun 10 22:07:32
Dunning-Kruger in effect. Both for Trump and his dumbass supporters like Obaminated.
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 11 02:54:45
Here is actually achievable:

And agreement of conventional demobilization on the Korean peninsula with dramatic force reductions in the border regions.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Mon Jun 11 04:15:16
Has it started yet? Has Kim given Trump the launch codes?
Memory Lane
Member
Mon Jun 11 05:07:16
"When I have stated that I believe Kim will denuclearize? "

I remember when MT made a thread called "trump saves the world" bragging about that.

I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jun 11 07:43:47

Starts in about 12 hours.

obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 10:03:02
so, i never said kim would denuclearize, rofl.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 10:50:51
When you dedicate a thread about the concept. It's a safe bet that you believe he would denuclearize.

Stop backtracking punk.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jun 11 11:03:34
Because a thread title called "Trump saves the world" isn't obvious hyperbole or anything.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 11:12:57
Yeah...I guess the content doesn't matter either?
But I know. It's about trump. So you guys have to defend your hero
Paramount
Member
Mon Jun 11 15:41:18
Looks like Kim is bossing around with Trump and only wants to see him for a short time. Trump planned to stay until wednesday, but Kim set a deadline for tuesday. So now Trump will have to leave earlier.

http://www...-trump-bloomberg-idUSKBN1J72EJ

Kim vs Trump
1 - 0

Wanna bet that Trump is now going to leave the meeting after 5 minutes? lol
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 16:08:49
Basically a handful of posters understand humor and sarcasm, the rest dont. So they think using our humor offhanded sarcastic remarks against is anything but desperate/pathetic. Also, i never said kim would denuclearize. I did say trump would save the world. And i wholly believe trump has saved the world.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 16:49:44
by doing what?
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jun 11 16:52:04
Both men needed this meeting. Trump so that he looks like he is "winning" at diplomacy. And Kim because the world will see him as an equal to the US president.

Kim is getting way more out of this meeting than Trump.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 17:04:30
"by doing what?"

lol

"Both men needed this meeting."

nope.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 17:05:01
although it is funny that you admit it is a victory for trump to have a sit down with kim.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jun 11 17:30:51

If Kim is playing around all he will achieve is an early death.

Paramount
Member
Mon Jun 11 17:41:49
Maybe Trump and Kim could play a game together, to cheer things up a little bit. We have a game in Sweden called Arga Leken, The Angry Game, where you sit in front of each other and look into each others eyes. You have to be quiet and look angry. The first person who starts to laugh lose.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 17:51:01
is mt still under the impression that getting a meeting with Kim is impressive?

it's our side who hasn't wanted to meet
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 18:10:36
So MT pulls a hot rod saying he never "inferred" that, where the thread itself and the comments made definitely shows that MT is believing that Kim will denuclearize.

But now is backtracking and using the excuse "I was just using sarcasm" but still maintains that trump is saving the world?

So now MT, how is Trump saving the world? Or are you going to continue being a bitch? Just asking...
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 18:11:09
If you want to be a bitch, be a bitch. Just own up to it.
mexicantardnado
Member
Mon Jun 11 18:15:50
duuuur What? duuuur, I didn't say that duuuur.

http://www...hread=82172&time=1520387262299
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jun 11 18:25:40
Typical Edge lord behavior. "lol just trolling, I never meant what I said. You're stupid for thinking I was serious."

All it means is that you never take what they say seriously but people like Obaminated don't really have long-lasting relationships anyways to notice that's how people think of him.
mexicantardnado
Member
Mon Jun 11 18:42:05
duuuuuur, i am duuuuuur not duuuuur murder duuuuur!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 19:03:58
Trump showing respect for his staff:

"Meetings between staffs and representatives are going well and quickly....but in the end, that doesn’t matter. We will all know soon whether or not a real deal, unlike those of the past, can happen!"

delude
Member
Mon Jun 11 19:06:11
""I have returned from North Korea with peace for our time". -Trump

obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 19:47:29
"Trump is too aggressive! He is gonna start a war!!!!" - TW, CR, Delude etc

"Kim will never meet with trump" - tw, cr, delude

"Trump is caving to what north korea wants, he is being played!!!!"- tw, cr, delude
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 19:58:37
Yep, and still going to get played. Don't be disappointed.

But, I see now you're tapering off of the whole "but, but, i didn't say..."

obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:12:03
You think i need to keep saying the same thing over and over again? You claimed i said kim would denuclearize. You linked a thread about me saying Trump saved the world. You think the two are the same thing. With that level of stupidity, why should i keep repeating myself?
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:21:52
I didn't link shit fuckhead.

It isn't that I think it is the same thing but with context and along with your comments in the thread the inference is there.

But, still go ahead play the role "i was only joking" but you're also full of shit too. Don't be mad because you're called out as a bitch. Accept and move on.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:25:22
I mean seriously, who wouldn't believe that you tthink kim would give up his nukes. I wonder how people can come to that conclusion.

"obaminated
Member Thu Mar 08 10:32:32
Yeah, remember all the times Kim offered up his nukes to Obama? x2"

Stop being a bitch, m'tard.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:42:09
Oh, my bad, you all tend to bleed together.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:43:17
kim offering up his nukes, which he did =/= me saying kim is going to denuclearize.

You poor fella.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:43:35
Just like all you trumptards bleed together too. But, its cool. Being a club with the likes of hot rod must be a crowning achievement for you.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:44:57
Uh huh. And your many of inferences in the thread. Again, play the role.

You said you were "joking"

Now you're saying you weren't inferring that at all. Despite the contrary.

Which defense will you use next?
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:46:03
Are you drunk?
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:47:38
"obaminated
Member Wed Mar 07 00:25:19
Guess who got Kim to offer giving up his nukes?

ROFL"

Lol, This is you not believing.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:50:27
So "Trump saves the world NK edition" attached with

"obaminated
Member Thu Mar 08 10:32:32
Yeah, remember all the times Kim offered up his nukes to Obama? x2"

"obaminated
Member Wed Mar 07 00:25:19
Guess who got Kim to offer giving up his nukes?

ROFL"


And whilst in the thread review it again with your slobbering over the stub dick of Trumps. Is in no way you're believing that Trump is going to get Kim to denuclearize.

While at any turn you come in and parade around defending his actions. But get called out on it. "I'm joking" is the defense.

Yeah, you're being a bitch.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:51:33
Stating a fact =/= my opinion

again, are you drunk?
delude
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:51:39
It was hyperbole, Rugian said so.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:52:28
But please, continue to hyperventilate and go through my post history, i am going to watch some clown porn and will come back after i finish and go through my 5 minute phase of guilt and confusion.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:53:13
"Stating a fact =/= my opinion"

Oh the defense is that it is only an opinion. Interesting turn of events. I for one am shocked.

Btw, it isn't a fact that Trump got Kim to offer nukes. If ANYthing if remotely true the intent of Kim, it would go to South Korea. But, you do you bitch.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:53:38
but first...

"Trump is too aggressive! He is gonna start a war!!!!" - TW, CR, Delude etc

"Kim will never meet with trump" - tw, cr, delude

"Trump is caving to what north korea wants, he is being played!!!!"- tw, cr, delude
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:54:14
No problem m'tard! See ya bitch!
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:54:27
@CR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EWqTKQ4a0Q
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:56:15
Yep and look at the sequence of events that transpired since it's initial proposal. Who canceled and then got made because he may not be consider for a "nobel prize".

Again, you think Kim is going to denuclearize. Most likely will not happen.

And you think Trump is your god.

And you're a bitch.

All covered.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:57:10
http://twitter.com/johnjbarron1/status/859567568415334400

^M'tard's envy.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 20:59:29
Your humor is so one dimensional, it isn't fun to engage with you.

You are generally spiteful and upset about politics. This goes back to what i wrote earlier. A handful a posters realize this forum is for hyperbole and humor. Others take that shit seriously because they will spend an hour going through post history to prove a point that no one gives a shit about.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:00:08
And again, stating a fact =/= an opinion

But trump is definitely saving the world.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:06:44
So M'tard still hangs on the defense for being called out for his hypocrisy and contradictions.

So list of defenses by m'tard:

1. Sarcasm

2. Joking

3. It was only my opinion.

4. Now; you're no fun

You are generally full of shit. And when you typically get called out on things. You retreat either by disappearing or trump (no pun) an excuse of how and why you post and the original intent. Especially when you are wrong. But you're right, no one gives a shit. But here you are defending your 'honor.' I am sure you going to say now that you don't give a shit. But, you will post again to use another excuse.

Go ahead bitch, waiting.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:09:22
"3. It was only my opinion. "

Again, are you drunk? I never said it was my opinion, i am been repeatedly telling you it wasnt my opinion. It was a fact I stated that you then twisted into something completely different.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:10:00
"But here you are defending your 'honor.'"

What.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:11:07
And it was only a "joke" too right?

Btw, predictable.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:13:22
The phrase 'honor' was used a substitute indicating that you're posting defending the comments and statements that you have made.

Don't get so caught up in semantics. Because that is something you will focus on while at the same time claim you don't believe Kim will denuclearize yet your actions don't support it.

Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:15:32
"And i wholly believe trump has saved the world."

A mystery still exists as M'tard still unable to support this "opinion." Or is this a "fact?"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 21:18:12
@mt, I did not say what you claim


and apparently you DO think it's amazing Trump got a meeting

Keep sucking on that Trump propaganda dick
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:19:53
Yes, trump is at this moment, saving the world.
Cold Rod
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:23:00
And what do you have to support that, despite ruining relationships with allies? Curious....so curious.

Wait, I bet you will say meeting with Kim and him giving up his nukes.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 21:35:08
Trump will be in the history books as hero when Russia & China have conquered the world
The Sentinel
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:52:41
Obaminated is right. It is a fact that Trump is saving the world and is getting rid of his nukes. His state controlled news network says so.
The Sentinel
Member
Mon Jun 11 21:53:37
I should correct my post; "Kim's state controlled news network says so."
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 22:19:31
remember when i said some posters understand humor and sarcasm..... jesus...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 22:45:07
there's no room for humor and sarcasm when so many absurd & stupid comments being made by the President of the United States & his supporters
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 22:54:29
Pence told Otto Warbier's family that their son would be in Trump's heart during this meeting... yeah, right... Trump will be best friends with Kim if Kim lets him
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 11 23:39:11
Trump just claimed things went "better than anyone could've expected"

shocker!
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 11 23:46:19
And off they go to sign something, boom goes tw's desperation that trump would fail
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 00:28:44
you honestly think what they will be signing is going to be better than anyone could've expected?

it'll be 'Trump is cool. Kim is cool.'

then they both sign with giant markers or crayons
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 00:41:27
here they come... Trump lying completely presumably with every word...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 00:43:18
Kim appears to have a pen, and Trump a marker :p

i could be wrong
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 00:44:28
Trump saved the world.
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 12 00:46:37
I will say this:

If you believe that the NPT is not self-enforcing and completely voluntary.

And that NK had every right to withdraw from the treaty to pursue its nuclear ambitions

And that the internal affairs of nation-states are their own business.

Then the summit was very positive in terms of normalizing NKs diplomatic standing in the world.

Hmmm.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 00:48:07
all of Trump's words are worthless, so we'll have to wait til document made public... with the child's giant marker signature & Kim's adult pen signature...
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 00:48:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC3W1lZpSmY
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 00:50:44
the two murderous dictators seem to be getting along well
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 00:51:55
The meltdown begins.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 00:52:17
also, lets not ignore TW calling Trump a murderous dictator.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 00:55:10
Jokes aside, if a substantial deal was made I am going to assume that old man trump, experienced in deals, bamboozled 35 year old Kim. I say this purely based off how much Trump kept patting Kim on the back, it was clear he was coaxing him to make him feel comfortable. Kim is a young dictator who spent time in the west, he really doesn't know how to play ball with an experienced guy like Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 00:57:30
what deal has Trump made in his entire term so far?
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 00:59:54
He has done a lot but lets ignore them. because i feel like that is just a red herring for you, it is a way for you to deflect.

So let's get you to put your cards on the table. What do you need Trump to do for you to stop being a weirdo about whatever trump does?
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 12 01:00:28
Obam
Kim put most of his father's generation elite to sleep. Figuratively. They are dead.

Kim may be at a loss on how to put on kid gloves, but he knows how to deal with experience.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 01:01:37
mature & grasp the concept of honesty

he will do neither

(plus he's made no deals if you actually think about it)
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 01:02:05
Jergul, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Political assassination does not equal diplomacy.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jun 12 01:02:39
Kim might be smarter than Trump. Kim built nuclear weapons. Trump can’t build a wall.

”he really doesn't know how to play ball with an experienced guy like Trump.”

It was Kim’s nukes that got the USA to the negotiating table. If NK did not have the nukes we would never have seen this meeting. But Kim is now negotiating as an equal. A big win for him. If this leads to a real peace it will also be a big win for NK and everyone else.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 01:02:56
"(plus he's made no deals if you actually think about it)"

Yeah, signing documents aint no deals. You are not at all deranged.
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 12 01:08:29
Obam
My point was that he has been dealing with, getting what he wants from, and outmaneuvering older men all his life.

Death sentences and executions are simply the finale (his brother was indeed assasinated though).

Trump might want to check his palms for VX.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 12 01:15:59
"
Stop and note: one man is determining our alliances and enemies. We do not have a functioning State Department, or checks and balances from our legislative branch. The US is functionally, like North Korea, a dictatorship now.
"
~some woman on twitter


seems a fair point...
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 01:29:35
*meltdown continues*
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jun 12 01:38:30
Obaminated has a tiny monkey brain. Half white. Half mexican. But 100% monkey. The rihtwing blogospbere is talking about how trump is a great statesman. It's all his attention span can take.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Jun 12 02:58:55

Perhaps, but I bet he knows how to spell 'rightwing blogosphere'.

BigDickNegro
Member
Tue Jun 12 04:15:52
He always knew, he prepared it, he deserves the nobel prize:
http://usa...uring-cnn-interview/693220002/


NBA Hall of Famer Dennis Rodman, who arrived in Singapore ahead of the meeting,shared his feelings with news anchor Chris Cuomo after the meeting between Trump and Kim got underway.

“It’s a great day. I am here to see it. I’m so happy,” Rodman said after breaking down talking about death threats he received in the United States due to his conversations with Kim, someone Rodman has considered a friend.

“I said to everybody, the door will open,” Rodman said, his voice cracking with emotion. “It’s amazing, it’s amazing, it’s amazing, when I said those things, when I went back home, I got so many death threats, and I believed in North Korea, and I couldn’t go home, I couldn’t even go home, I had to hide out for 30 days, but I kept my head high, and I knew things were going to change.

I knew it. I was the only one.”
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Jun 12 04:25:00

His interview lasted something like 10 minutes on one of the left-leaning networks.

And all the while he was wearing his Trump gear.

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