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Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 08 07:46:42
U.S. WILL RETURN AMERICAN ISIS FIGHTER TO SYRIA WITH DE FACTO ‘DEATH WARRANT’

The Trump administration is planning to release a suspected ISIS fighter in Syria with more than $4,000 in cash and a new cellphone, a Pentagon official said in a court filing released on Thursday.

The U.S. military has been holding the unidentified man, who is a Saudi-U.S. dual citizen, as a prisoner for about nine months.

Upon his release, the Petitioner will be given $4,210 in cash, the same amount he had in his possession when was captured,” the Pentagon official, Mark Mitchell, said in a declaration filed in U.S. District Court in Washington. “He will also be provided a new cellular phone (in its original sealed packaging), which he can activate and use if he desires to do so. He will be provided sufficient food and water to last for several days.”

The prisoner has rejected the release plan, Justice Department lawyers said. His attorneys at the American Civil Liberties Union are expected to file legal arguments later Thursday opposing the release.

The prisoner has rejected the release plan, Justice Department lawyers said. His attorneys at the American Civil Liberties Union are expected to file legal arguments later Thursday opposing the release.

“Instead of offering a safe release, they want to dump an American citizen onto the side of the road in a war-torn country without any assurances of protection and no identification,” Jonathan Hafetz, an ACLU lawyer, said in a statement on Wednesday.

Chutkan has tentatively set a hearing on the issue for 9 a.m. Friday. Officials said in a court filing on Wednesday that they would wait at least 72 hours before going forward with their plan, deferring to an order from Chutkan requiring three days’ advance notice of the transfer.

http://www...nse-department-pentagon-632985
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Jun 08 08:45:15

I see nothing wrong with the release. Let's face it, he was not arrested in Times Square.

murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 10:52:42

"I see nothing wrong with the release."

They can't deport a US citizen unless some nation requests extradition.

obaminated
Member
Fri Jun 08 11:23:39
If he dies, he dies.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 11:44:16
While humorous, just put a bullet in his head.
Paramount
Member
Fri Jun 08 11:50:39
"I see nothing wrong with the release."

Hot Rod and Trump wants to release an IS-figther and even fund him with thousands of dollars. Why am I not surpsrised?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Jun 08 12:13:31

paramount, The money is his. It is the amount he had in his pocket at the time he was arrested. It is his money.


murder, he is not being deported. He is being released where he was arrested.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Jun 08 12:27:31
If thats where he arrested, thats where he should bs released
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 12:48:29

"murder, he is not being deported. He is being released where he was arrested."

That's not the way release from custody works.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Jun 08 13:37:05

How does it work?

Do they fly him back to Iowa and turn him loose there?

murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:44:23

Well the court is blocking his release in Iraq where he is now, so I'm assuming he's getting a plane ticket to the US.

Once the order to release comes in, the US government has no right to move him anywhere that he doesn't want to go.



Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:48:49
Leave him right where's he's at.

Then put two rounds of 5.56 in his head.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 13:50:33
"Then put two rounds of 5.56 in his head."

they won't.
he's probably an asset.
Allahuakbar
Member
Sat Jun 09 00:30:15
Show some mercy, at least provide him with a suicide belt.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Jun 09 03:44:58
He could be the victim of trafficking, you know.
murder
Member
Sat Jun 09 13:15:07
Well if the past is any indication, odds are pretty good that he's been molested.
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jun 10 01:36:09
Remember, Americans are only Americans if they have white skin. "But, but I'm not racist."

Yeah we know Obaminated/Forwyn/Rugian.
obaminated
Member
Sun Jun 10 01:50:01
Cuckhat wants to keep a radicalized islamic terrorist here... because he is that stupid.
hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 02:01:28
Don't all US citizens have some pretty unalienable rights? It isn't a matter of smart/stupid, it's a matter of whatthefuckareyoudoingtomyrights??? You of all people, food, should very much understand the need to protect the basic rights of any american, no matter what border they stand accused of crossing illegally.
Forwyn
Member
Sun Jun 10 02:39:57
There are very few inalienable rights that apply to a terrorist caught with terrorists by a group fighting terrorists in a warzone created by terrorists.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 05:17:17

How about ***THE RIGHT*** to suffer the consequences when you commit treason?

jergul
large member
Sun Jun 10 06:11:29
How about the right to a jury and judge if *anyone* suspects you have commited treason?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 11:24:08

Just supposing.

hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 11:51:19
"There are very few inalienable rights that apply to a terrorist caught with terrorists by a group fighting terrorists in a warzone created by terrorists."

US citizens have the right to trial. Guy was being released anyway, so he again still has rights.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 11:56:08

He is free to continue the activities that he was pursuing before he was picked up.

Sounds fairer than moving him back to America, presumably against his will.

hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 12:05:34
"He is free to continue the activities that he was pursuing before he was picked up."

Has absolutely no relevancy. If the guy is being released from prison, there's a very standardized way of doing that:

- guy goes to desk clerk
- guy picks up belongings from desk clerk
- guy walks out front door
- guy is free to do as he pleases

Nowhere in this standard procedure is "get transported to a completely different country against your will."
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 12:10:20

You say that my statement, "He is free to continue the activities that he was pursuing before he was picked up." Is irrelevant.


Then you post step by step the meat of my statement. Thanks for agreeing.

obaminated
Member
Sun Jun 10 12:23:10
He is a member of isis, hood, he has no rights.
hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 12:25:08
All US citizens have rights. Or do you now support the stripping of rights of people never convicted of a crime?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 12:28:37

He has not been accused of a crime evidently.

They are just going to give him his belongings and set him free.

hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 13:07:58
But they're going to set him free in Syria, despite him currently being held in Iraq. They're going to quite literally kidnap a US citizen against his will and transport him somewhere.

Just let him walk out of the building, as per every fucking normal release from prison.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 13:20:16

Then return him to Syria.

I believe that should be easy enough. Just drop him on the same corner where we picked him up.

hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 14:03:08
So you're a fan of state sponsored kidnapping.
obaminated
Member
Sun Jun 10 16:29:52
No Hood, we just don't have sympathy nor see a need to make accommodations for a member of a terrorist network that has sworn to attack the United States. He is a terrorist who was caught in Syria, so we are dropping him off back in Syria.
hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 16:51:41
Since when were basic rights about sympathy?
hood
Member
Sun Jun 10 16:53:07
Seriously, the guys is in fucking Iraq. What's the difference in him walking out the front door or being dropped off back in Syria (aside from, you know, the gross violation of rights)? It isn't like anyone (here) is suggesting we give him a first class flight back to the states, put him up in a nice hotel, and hand him ingredients to build a bomb.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Jun 12 12:28:32
http://twitter.com/AlSuraEnglish/status/1006507151068549120
obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 12 13:12:23
Yeah, leave him in iraq, a state he is at war with, brilliant decision hood.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 12 13:20:37
They are free to arrest and charge him if they wish.
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