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Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Jun 08 12:10:26
http://www...ump-russia-g7-canada-1.4697655

Why is anyone who defies Trump allowed to live?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Jun 08 12:15:23

Exactly how did Canada commit an act of war?

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Jun 08 12:25:53
They defied Trump and hurt his bff Putin.
Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 08 12:32:33
Cuckboy Trudeau is getting uppity. Trump should respond by reviving the idea of abandoning NATO.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 08 12:37:25
i guess Trump wants a friend at the summit now that he has pissed off all our allies

...his never-ending inexplicable Russia love is not weird at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 08 12:39:55
“Vladimir Putin chose to make Russia unworthy of membership in the G-8 by invading Ukraine and annexing Crimea. Nothing he has done since then has changed that most obvious fact. Every day, Russian-led separatist forces are killing Ukrainians in the Donbass. Every day, Putin's forces are helping the Assad regime slaughter the Syrian people. And every day, through assassinations, cyber-attacks, and malign influence, Russia is assaulting democratic institutions all over the world.

The President has inexplicably shown our adversaries the deference and esteem that should be reserved for our closest allies. Those nations that share our values and have sacrificed alongside us for decades are being treated with contempt. This is the antithesis of so-called ‘principled realism’ and a sure path to diminishing America’s leadership in the world.


~ McCain, an adult
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 12:43:30
"McCain, an adult "

lol
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 08 12:56:46
yeah, hilarious that the President is incapable of sounding like an adult ever... i mean can anyone even imagine him speaking in a normal tone with detailed accurate information?
Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:00:34
Tw, Mccain sounds like a stark raving Russophobe. Just being anti Trump doesn't make someone look not retarded.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 08 13:09:40
you can disagree w/ McCain's views but at least he has knowledge and can sound like an adult (does anyone have trouble identifying a Trump quote?)... whereas we have an idiot asking the public "why is Russia not invited?"

i mean if i left McCain's name off it you wouldn't know who said it... Trump quotes don't require attribution
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:13:29

"Tw, Mccain sounds like a stark raving Russophobe."

I hope you're referring to something other than what tumbleweed posted, because everything said there is 100% accurate.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 08 13:19:16
"When and where will all of the many conflicts of interest be listed by the 13 Angry Democrats (plus) working on the Witch Hunt Hoax. There has never been a group of people on a case so biased or conflicted. It is all a Democrat Excuse for LOSING the Election. Where is the server?"


can anyone envision any adult uttering this as legitimate criticism of the investigation? (except perhaps a Trump zombie)

('where is the server' is referring to the DNC server hacked by the Russians that was not given to the FBI, for anyone not familiar with Trump-speak & weird non-sequiturs)
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 13:22:13
"I hope you're referring to something other than what tumbleweed posted, because everything said there is 100% accurate."

if you're an educated idjiot or a mental midget who supports nazis and islamists then yes,it's 100% accurate.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:29:51
tw quoting McCain, the jihadi-armer who should be lined against a wall and shot. rofl

"Every day, Putin's forces are helping the Assad regime slaughter the Syrian people."

rofl
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:37:49

"if you're an educated idjiot or a mental midget who supports nazis and islamists then yes,it's 100% accurate."

invading Ukraine ... check

annexing Crimea ... check

Russian-led separatist forces are killing Ukrainians in the Donbass ... check

Russian forces helping Assad slaughter the Syrian people ... check

assassinations ... check

cyber-attacks ... check

assaulting democratic institutions all over the world ... check


What exactly are you contesting?
Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Jun 08 13:41:04
Cuckboy Trudeau is getting uppity. Trump should respond by reviving the idea of abandoning NATO.'

You think that's bad? He also says its 'unacceptable' for Trump to claim that Canadian steel and aluminum exports that are used to build tanks and fighter jets are a national security threat.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:42:12
"Russian forces helping Assad slaughter the Syrian people ... check"

rofl
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 13:44:06
"invading Ukraine ... check"

nopes.

"annexing Crimea ... check"

i'll give you that one,i shouldn't but hey I'm feeling nice.

"Russian-led separatist forces are killing Ukrainians in the Donbass ... check"

nopes.

American backed Nazis killing Ukrainians in the donbass.

"Russian forces helping Assad slaughter the Syrian people ... check"

nopes.
Russian forces helping assad slaughter american / Saudi/ israeli backed islamists.


"assassinations ... check"

lol
"cyber-attacks ... check "

lol

"assaulting democratic institutions all over the world ... check"

lol




murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:47:11

Yeah ... you're risking werewolf dictatoring yourself. :o)

swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 13:48:46
lol
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:49:37
tw and murder sound like screeching leftist publications in 2016.

Muh Aleppo!
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:54:42

I have no idea wtf you're talking about. More to the point, you have no idea wtf you're talking about. :o)
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:56:31
"Russian forces helping Assad slaughter the Syrian people ... check"

rofl

How's Aleppo these days?
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 13:58:59

Forwyn seems confused, so let me clarify a few things for him.

I don't give a flying fuck about Aleppo.

I couldn't care less about the Free Syrian Forces.

I don't give a shit about the Syrian people.

I prefer that Assad remain in power, and I don't give a fuck how he achieves that outcome.

I don't give a fuck the Russians are helping Assad.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 08 14:00:19
what part are you disagreeing with?

Russia helping Assad
Russia killing Syrian people

both seem true
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 14:03:32

I think swordtail's position is that if he calls them foreign backed islamists, they don't count.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 14:05:17
nopes.

just pointing out the facts.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 14:05:37
you do know about facts right?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Jun 08 14:09:13

Why should we keep giving them our wealth?


They are acting like common beggars by whining when we raise our tariffs to match theirs.

Just because their GDP is a pittance compared to ours there is no reason to give them any more than we would give any common beggar.



murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 14:13:28

"you do know about facts right?"

Yes. Facts are that Russia is helping Assad slaughter the Syrian people.

Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 14:20:43
So you're being intentionally obtuse.

Assad is putting down a foreign-backed jihadi uprising, not "slaughtering the Syrian people".

Otherwise refugees wouldn't be flocking back to government-controlled regions by the hundreds of thousands.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jun 08 14:21:00
"Yes. Facts are that Russia is helping Assad slaughter the Syrian people."

just when I thought there was hope...

facts are that russia is helping assad save the syrian peeps.
Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Jun 08 14:55:34


They are acting like common beggars by whining when we raise our tariffs to match theirs'

Exactly! It is a national security issue for the US that we export tons of steel and aluminum for your war engine. Why dont we just stop shipping it so there isnt a problem anymore?
McKobb
Member
Fri Jun 08 15:34:12
Fuck Russia and may Putin suck his father off like he does every morning...and swallow.
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 15:52:36

"Assad is putting down a foreign-backed jihadi uprising"

Forwyn: Composed of Syrians. Calling them Islamists and/or jihadis doesn't change the fact that they are Syrians.

Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 16:06:53
You're not a complete retard, despite acting like it sometimes. You're well aware of the connotation jihadi-lover McCain was going for when he said Assad/Russia are "slaughtering Syrians".

Saying, "B-b-but Syrians ARE actually dying in the conflict" is some grade-A retardation.
Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Jun 08 16:08:45
I dont get it. How can Syrians be dying when Syrians are being slaughtered!?!?!?!?
murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 16:14:02

"Saying, "B-b-but Syrians ARE actually dying in the conflict" is some grade-A retardation."

Hundreds of thousands of "foreign backed Islamist jihadi" Syrians have been killed in the war.

If you think that that is anything other than the Syrian people, you're the retard.

murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 16:15:33

"I dont get it. How can Syrians be dying when Syrians aren't* being slaughtered!?!?!?!?"

This is Trump's reality. People figure if you simply keep lying, eventually the opposition will relent.

Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 08 16:17:34
"anything other than"

That's an easy one.

The U.S. State Department reported on 2 June 2016 that their "intelligence community" estimates that possibly "in excess of 40,000 total foreign fighters have gone to the conflict [in Syria] and from over 100 countries"

http://en....he_Syrian_and_Iraqi_Civil_Wars

murder
Member
Fri Jun 08 16:26:01

Yeah I remember them marching in the streets before war broke out. ;o)



werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Jun 09 11:51:51
what is happening every day in ukraine is attacks not only against ethnic russians but also against defenseless jews and gypsies.. a fact well documented by now even in western mainstream media

mccain thinks he can go around world invading countries in illegal wars based on lies killing hundreds of thousands of people.. and sponsoring nazis and liver eating jihadists.. and no one is allowed to oppose him or want out of the madness.. otherwise he says *they* are the aggressive bad guys.. this unhinged mass-murdering war criminal makes his former vp choice sarah palin seem like sagacious adult

as for canada.. trudeau appointed chrystia freeland as foreign minister.. who came to cabinet talking about what a huge influence her maternal grandfather had on her.. with her maternal grandfather being editor in ww2 for ukrainian anti-semitic pro-nazi newspaper and chrystia knowing this already for decades.. these are similarly facts well documented even in canadian mainstream media.. trudeau continues to back freeland and her pro-ukrainian anti-russian orchestrated foreign policy 100%

even trump is being a dummy here by supplying arms to ukraine [something obama had refused to do]
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 09 18:19:14
back on OP topic... Trump attacks Trudeau:

"
Based on Justin’s false statements at his news conference, and the fact that Canada is charging massive Tariffs to our U.S. farmers, workers and companies, I have instructed our U.S. Reps not to endorse the Communique as we look at Tariffs on automobiles flooding the U.S. Market!

PM Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our @G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that, “US Tariffs were kind of insulting” and he “will not be pushed around.” Very dishonest & weak. Our Tariffs are in response to his of 270% on dairy!
"


the dishonest child also claimed he had a 10 out of 10 relationship with all our allies... but perhaps he only considers Russia an ally
jergul
large member
Sat Jun 09 19:01:41
Murder
The problem is in the word "The" and perhaps also in "Assad".

The Syrian regime kills Syrian rebels

Would be a neutral way of expressing what you are saying.

As opposed to say saying Trump slaughters the Syrian people in Al-Raqqa.
Forwyn
Member
Sat Jun 09 21:27:37
Anyone with a brain already knew that context without it needing to be laid out.

But the effort is appreciated.
Aeros
Member
Sun Jun 10 00:08:11
Apparently Justin Trudeau offered Trump a framed photograph of his grandfathers British Columbia hotel, which led to positive statements from the white house.

And then the giggling tard let slip to the media that the hotel was actually a brothel run by trumps grandfather in Canada. Trump then went thermonuclear and scuppered the entire G-7 meeting over the deliberate insult.

Of course this is going to be spun as poor virtuous Trudeau standing up to the mean orange man, rather then the Canadian Prime Minister deliberately insulting the American President to his face.
Aeros
Member
Sun Jun 10 00:10:29
http://www...-grandfathers-canadian-brothel

I don't even like Trump but fuck you Canada and fuck your fucking fuck boy prime minister. Fuck right the fuck off.
Aeros
Member
Sun Jun 10 00:18:58
For fucks sake, he literally could not help himself. At a moment when the Congress needs as much support as it can find to overrule the president on the tariffs, the dancing man child of the North decides to pull a sophmoric prank that would lead to eye rolling and jeers at a fraternity party.

Trudeau can go fuck himself with a ten foot pole, and good luck getting the tariffs repealed now because right wing media in the US is starting to trumpet this bullshit to the heavens and no congressman in am at risk Republican district will lift his head above the parapet now.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 00:19:44
Trump Tower would be a brothel if it was legal

he owned Miss USA to ogle the women & assumes the women he sleeps with expect to be paid
Aeros
Member
Sun Jun 10 00:29:12
Yes, but there is an expectation at the very least that the office itself is to be respected because it represents far more then the idiot who happens to hold the title.

More importantly though, Trump is there because millions of people voted to put him there. Whether that was the correct decision or not is for us Americans to sort out. And having the leader of a neighboring nation openly mocking the President is inexcusable. Disagree. For the love of god disagree with Trump. But don't pull idiot shit like this. It insults all Americans and just strengthens his position as it turns the issue into an us vs. them scenario.

I don't know what Trudeau was thinking, but if he thought this was a good idea then the Canadian electorate is easily as stupid as the American one. Only a moron would have assumed anything good would come from a shit move like this.
Glenn Beck
Member
Sun Jun 10 00:40:44
Oh god shaddup you blubbering vagina.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 00:42:07
Trump deserves no respect w/ his behavior... and he arrived late to the G7, late to a breakfast event the next day, & then left early

plus he called Trudeau "Very dishonest & weak" on twitter... (not sure if you're suggesting that was because of this brothel thing rather than his stated reason)

either way, he's a pathetic child if he blew up negotiations over a historical fact
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 00:46:38
...but if the Trump propaganda machine is using it as a defense for Trump then i'll agree a mistake... no need to give them anything to work with to rally the mouth-breathers
jergul
large member
Sun Jun 10 02:45:47
I think it time that States develop interplanetary nuclear weapons. As a Fuck You to entrepeneurs and dreamers who think this planet has life-boats.

Correct thread.

Fuck you dreamers. One planet. We make it work here or we all die.

Now kiss and make up.
jergul
large member
Sun Jun 10 02:48:02
QINGDAO, June 10 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping on Sunday called on the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) member states to build up strength of unity and mutual trust.

While addressing the 18th Meeting of the Council of Heads of Member States of the SCO, the president said the SCO member states should ensure full implementation of documents including the Qingdao Declaration, and the Outline for the Implementation of the Treaty on Long-Term Good Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation.

The SCO member states should respect each other's choice of development paths and accommodate each other's core interests and major concerns, he said.

"We should enhance mutual understanding by putting ourselves in others' positions and boost harmony and unity by seeking common ground and setting aside differences," he added.

=========

SCO represents 80% of the Euro-Asian landmass and 60% of humanity.

So there is a plan B.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jun 10 04:17:56
”More importantly though, Trump is there because millions of people voted to put him there. Whether that was the correct decision or not is for us Americans to sort out. And having the leader of a neighboring nation openly mocking the President is inexcusable. Disagree. For the love of god disagree with Trump. But don't pull idiot shit like this. It insults all Americans and just strengthens his position as it turns the issue into an us vs. them scenario.”


Aeros usually I am with you, and god know I do not like Trudeau, but seriously shut the fuck up. The idiot in chief OPENED this door to the lower bowls of the political ”discourse”. The idiot in chief insulted his way to the presidency and set a totally new presedence for the level of open douchbaggery that is allowed in an election and on the stage of global diplomacy. Fuck him and his whore house owning ancestors and their new found sensibilities. And if you voted for him and feel butthurt over these things now, fuck you to. Own your idiot or shut the fuck up!
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 05:22:50

Nimatzo, you are aware that Canada charges us 270% tariff on dairy, don't you?

Cold Rod
Member
Sun Jun 10 06:32:27
This post works here too;

Hot Rod, on most world affairs, local affairs, including economy and trade. You are once again displaying that you and also Trump apparently have no clue nor understanding of what supply management is.

Why do you think tariffs are high? Because the over-supply and produce of dairy products. But this is only history repeating itself in regards to you not ever wanting to do a little basic research to understand. Just only a phrase by your retarded messiah that we have as president.

It's like the time about coal miners and everyone jumped on that bandwagon as they still fail to understand it is a profession that is becoming obsolete and he still fucked over the mining industry.

But, you can still keep your lips attached to his boobs, hot rod. Rest of us will still keep thinking independently and stay educated.
McKobb
Member
Sun Jun 10 08:25:37
Russia needs to stop it with the weponized prion attacks!
McKobb
Member
Sun Jun 10 08:28:23
*weaponized
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 11:27:42

Tariffs are a means of protectionism and income for the State.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 11:29:13

Take a look at America. We have 50 states and zero tariffs.

The system works perfectly.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 11:41:35
if Canada didn't protect dairy their frozen hellscape farmers wouldn't stand a chance at competing & would disappear

if you don't have milk, you don't have a country
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 11:48:41

Because they have crappy dairy.


Not sure, but my guess is Florida does not raise dairy cows.

Cold Rod
Member
Sun Jun 10 11:49:44
^Has been dumb his whole life and still displays his level of intelligence for all the world to ridicule.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 11:53:21

I must ***really*** be right this time.

Cold Rod
Member
Sun Jun 10 11:54:24
^Or must be ***really*** be delusion and dumb.
Cold Rod
Member
Sun Jun 10 11:54:53
delusional*
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 12:06:32

LOL.

Where is your rebuttal sonny?



Is Trudeau gay. Just saw him on TV and he looks questionable.


Just curious.

Cold Rod
Member
Sun Jun 10 12:27:17
Hot Rod is insulted because Trudeau trolled Trump. What's the matter snowflake?

Of course you asked that question, but we all know its code for you wanting him to be a fellow pedophile just like yourself.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 12:32:20

Trudeau waited until Trump left before he started talking "tough." I guess he thought Trump would not hear about it.


Same tired old 16-year-old "joke."

Paramount
Member
Sun Jun 10 12:39:16
Hot Dog,

"Nothing Trudeau said was new. The Prime Minister's Office later made that point in a statement, adding that Trudeau had made those comments privately to Trump as well."

http://www...leaders-negotiations-1.4699871
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 12:46:21

Here is a thought.


Let's have the G-7 drop every single tariff among the seven countries to zero.

Who is for that?

Then we won't be screwing you guys over anymore.




Did any of you know that every American car imported by Japan sat in customs until it had been dismantled and inspected?

That was several decades ago, not sure if they still do it.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 12:56:36
how is Trump supposedly for no tariffs while also saying the steel & aluminum tariffs are to protect our steel & aluminum production (& also saying its because of the dairy tariff he recently learned about)

he has two (or three) OPPOSING views... NOTICE it
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 13:08:58

tw - how is Trump supposedly for no tariffs while also saying the steel & aluminum tariffs are to protect our steel & aluminum production (& also saying its because of the dairy tariff he recently learned about)


If there were no tariffs between us and other countries that would include no tariffs on our dairy going to Canada and zero tariffs against our aluminum and steel for other countries. Do you see how that works?

That brings up another factor, dumping. Other countries overproduce aluminum and steel and sell it here in The United States for less than our countries can produce it. Some countries even subsidize those industries.

Now, do you see how it works?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 13:14:54
so you are not seeing a contradiction?

'we need the steel tariffs to protect our steel workers/production! ... but meh, i'll get rid of the tariffs if we can sell dairy to canada...'

sleep soundly, steel workers & those supposedly expanding their factories
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 13:16:27
...it also confirms national security argument is bullshit
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Jun 10 13:28:12

tw - 'we need the steel tariffs to protect our steel workers/production! ... but meh, i'll get rid of the tariffs if we can sell dairy to canada...'


It's a bit more complicates than that, but you are getting closer.

There may be tens of thousands of products involved.

Here is another factor.

Until recently our government could not negotiate with our drug companies for lower prices. It was against the law.

But foreign countries could negotiate a much lower price than we pay. Of course, we could buy our drugs from those countries, but that is against the law too.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 10 13:48:41
it's not complicated at all

do we need steel tariffs for national security to protect the industry or are we just retaliating until others remove their tariffs?

he is sitting on all sides imaginable as usual... the hazards of making shit up on the fly
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jun 11 07:30:24

We need the tariffs to maintain the steel and aluminum industries.

The industries are essential.


France makes parts for our fighter aircraft. (Seems I read that somewhere.) Just think how long they lasted in WWII.

I remember a few years ago there was only one company left in the US that was capable of making boots for our military. Not sure if they are still in business or not.



The point being we need the bare minimum in industries to maintain our military. If not we may as well disband the military and open our doors.

Paramount
Member
Mon Jun 11 08:51:06
The US should convert itself into a factory and produce cheap products for Europe and China. Europe and China can concentrate on innovations. You on production.

Make my shoes, Hot Dog.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jun 11 12:40:48

paramounted, they are stealing their 'innovations' from us.

John Adams
Member
Mon Jun 11 12:43:05
"We need the tariffs to maintain the steel and aluminum industries."

Do you even know enough about this topic to even attempt to discuss it. Because comments like that suggest otherwise.
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